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Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Pfft. My TV Tropes page is four times the size.

In ANY EVENT: Mindjack was in competition with another Square Enix game with a similar gimmick at the time it came out: the PSP game "The 3rd Birthday." Which, uh…well, I don't think it was a good game but it certainly was a lot more fun to play than Mindjack. It had an actual color scheme, for one.

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Stallion Cabana
Feb 14, 2012
1; Get into Grad School

2; Become better at playing Tabletop, both as a player and as a GM/ST/W/E

3; Get rid of this goddamn avatar.

SkeletonHero posted:

Let the record show that, despite my numerous and graphic threats thereof while viewing MDC streams, I had absolutely nothing to do with that TV Tropes page, and in fact have no idea how that site even works.

Anime child porn, mostly.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Judge, I finally know how you can get your dream girl!

supermikhail
Nov 17, 2012


"It's video games, Scully."
Video games?"
"He enlists the help of strangers to make his perfect video game. When he gets bored of an idea, he murders them and moves on to the next, learning nothing in the process."
"Hmm... interesting."
You mean how he can become his dream girl? I guess some people would get their rocks off this way... Hey, I'm not judging!

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

supermikhail posted:

You mean how he can become his dream girl? I guess some people would get their rocks off this way... Hey, I'm not judging!

Or someone else can...



I'm so sorry judge :(

goldjas
Feb 22, 2009

I HATE ALL FORMS OF FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. I HATE BEAUTY. I AM GOLDJAS.
So since your youtube channel 2 years of men Drinking Coffee thing shows a video of you guys playing Mega Man Zero..."3", does that mean we will see that in the future? (I know it's a typo, but I would actually not mind seeing you guys play that game, or the 4th one as well why not).

Edit: Ok, so I actually watched the video now and how the gently caress did you actually run into people playing this game?

goldjas fucked around with this message at 09:49 on May 10, 2014

Eyre Kneed
Jul 1, 2008

That was one of their first LPs, right?

Titty Warlord
Apr 28, 2013

supermikhail posted:


That is all.

this is magnificent

your evil twin
Aug 23, 2010

"What we're dealing with...
is us! Those things look just like us!"

"Speak for yourself, I couldn't look that bad on a bet."
You made a very professional-looking OP for the game's story and characters... and I cracked up when I actually read them. :v:

I assume that the manual actually provides some backstory and useful info. Believe it or not, that is still occasionally a thing in this day and age. As to whether knowing the backstory would improve the experience... that's another matter entirely!

(Dammit, replacementdocs.com doesn't have the manual. What a glaring omission!)

OK, totally gonna buy this game now so I can become a red ghost and mess with you guys. Gotta let me know when you are next playing.

judge reinhold
Jul 26, 2001
The thread is a bit restless, and I think I know why: people want to know more about the MindJack universe! So this video will put your questions to bed, some sort of futuristic bunk bed, I'm sure. It's the introductory cutscene.



There's no commentary on it, but I remember Chris saying one of the women looked like Ellen DeGeneres to him.

your evil twin posted:

I assume that the manual actually provides some backstory and useful info. Believe it or not, that is still occasionally a thing in this day and age. As to whether knowing the backstory would improve the experience... that's another matter entirely!

I dug out the manual and it's better than Ride to Hell's. However, the backstory is fairly incorrect and uses a lot of passive voice construction:

The Manual posted:

AD 2031, an era where technology has begun to advance beyond the realm of human imagination. Jim Corbijn, FIA agent, was waiting for a woman: Rebecca Weiss, an anti-government activist due to arrive on the last flight of the day from Shanghai. The pair's encounter is marred by a sudden terrorist attack. As they fight to survive, they are soon sucked into a vast, overwhelming conspiracy. To the masterminds behind the scenes, however, this battlefield is nothing but a game. To them, everything is an illusion, a figment of their imaginations. They participate in this battle without anyone being aware of their presence. They have the power to access the vast networks spread across the cities, taking over the hearts and minds of other people. To them, Jim, Rebecca, and the soldiers and citizens on both sides of the conflict are but mere pawns in their game. They are the Mind Hackers, and the technology at their fingertips makes them the true overlords of the 21st century.

MassRafTer posted:

Or someone else can...



I'm so sorry judge :(
Welcome to MindJacksonville.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

judge reinhold posted:

The thread is a bit restless, and I think I know why: people want to know more about the MindJack universe! So this video will put your questions to bed, some sort of futuristic bunk bed, I'm sure. It's the introductory cutscene.



So the mindjackers are essentially...the game players themselves? Toying with the lives of armed soldiers and armed civilians alike? If the game were actually smart that could honestly be an interesting deconstruction.

I like how in the cutscene jacked civilians just randomly have guns appear in their hands like it is in the game. It shows a strong dedication to verisimilitude.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I didn't know FIFA would have so much power in the future

gregory
Jun 8, 2013

METAL GEAR!

judge reinhold posted:

this video will put your questions to bed

Although any confusion I had concerning the plot has been expanded tenfold, this DID totally answer my question of, "When someone gets MindJacked, does a pistol just materialize in their hands?"

In light of overwhelming evidence, I can say with 100% certainty that yes, a pistol does indeed materialize in a person's hand whenever they are MindJacked. Now THAT'S some crazy technology.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
The guns don't appear out of thin air, it's just that in this world everyone knows that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is with a good guy with a gun. Gun nut utopia.

Steak Flavored Gum
Apr 26, 2007

ABANDONED HOMEWORLD FOR SALE, CHEAP!!!
Custom desert-marsh conversion in galactic core, 12% oxygen atm., great weather, friendly native life (missing one moon). Great fix-er-upper. Must sell, alien invasion imminent. $3995 or best offer.
That woman was wearing some VERY skimpy clothes. This is far too family friendly a gosh darn LP to explain the only possible places she could have been storing that pistol. :v:

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

Steak Flavored Gum posted:

That woman was wearing some VERY skimpy clothes. This is far too family friendly a gosh darn LP to explain the only possible places she could have been storing that pistol. :v:

She kept it in one of those darn newfangled pocket dimensions all the cool kids have these days.

Brassherald
Feb 3, 2012

Wait, I'm the one who calls people buttheads!
I'm curious about one thing. Is this magic or technology?

Also, did that event in the intro occur before or during the events of this game?

And, why are the Mindjackers color coding their jacking balls?

Can not Mindjackers see the balls?

Can Mindjackers see the balls?

Why is it that a civilian aims a gun at a cop for a few seconds, and it takes a Mindjacker for a cop to retaliate after they have shot?

When people have guns, do they not know how to shoot if they are not Mindjacked?

If there were so many Mindjackers and they can freely move through bodies, why have we only seen 3? (I'm assuming Diaper is playing a Mindjacker)

Are the Wisps the actual bodies of the Mindjackers?

Just the one question, though.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Having played through the game before, you guys can rest easy knowing that none of the story in the manual past the point about the terrorist attack is relevant to the game. At all.
The tutorial is literally more relevant to the ending than all that. I'm serious, play through it and see if you can't guess what the ending will be.
Also pretty much none of that intro past the soldier bit is relevant as well.

your evil twin
Aug 23, 2010

"What we're dealing with...
is us! Those things look just like us!"

"Speak for yourself, I couldn't look that bad on a bet."
I like to give credit where it is due, and I must say that intro was pretty cool. Also, like everyone else I thought 'huh' when the possessed civilians suddenly had guns. In the game I just assumed civillians suddenly had guns for reasons of gameplay, but they even put that into the intro cutscene, so... huh.

Of course, it could simply be that the game is set in America. Where everyone has a gun.

EDIT: Hahahaha, I went and did something else for a couple of minutes, then finished my post, and discovered everyone else already beat me to it.

supermikhail
Nov 17, 2012


"It's video games, Scully."
Video games?"
"He enlists the help of strangers to make his perfect video game. When he gets bored of an idea, he murders them and moves on to the next, learning nothing in the process."
"Hmm... interesting."
This is a cool gameplay mechanic, but a stupid story idea, although on par with much military sci-fi. Let's say the magic guns are nano-machines. Yes, that's exactly how humanity flourishes in the 21st century (to create this amazing technology) - by endlessly manufacturing (nano-lego) single-shot pistols, and conflicts are resolved by random skirmishes.

Brassherald posted:

I'm curious about one thing. Is this magic or technology?

Also, did that event in the intro occur before or during the events of this game?

And, why are the Mindjackers color coding their jacking balls?

Can not Mindjackers see the balls?

Can Mindjackers see the balls?

Why is it that a civilian aims a gun at a cop for a few seconds, and it takes a Mindjacker for a cop to retaliate after they have shot?

When people have guns, do they not know how to shoot if they are not Mindjacked?

If there were so many Mindjackers and they can freely move through bodies, why have we only seen 3? (I'm assuming Diaper is playing a Mindjacker)

Are the Wisps the actual bodies of the Mindjackers?

Just the one question, though.

I think it was all a dream.

judge reinhold
Jul 26, 2001
Snowden warned us about all of this.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


I can answer most of these questions if the OP wants me to. I don't remember them leading to any significant spoilers, mostly because the game never deals with any of this story.

judge reinhold
Jul 26, 2001

SSNeoman posted:

I can answer most of these questions if the OP wants me to. I don't remember them leading to any significant spoilers, mostly because the game never deals with any of this story.

If the questions are revealed via the story, I would prefer they be addressed around whatever segment they are so there's a bit of pacing and discovery. If they are never brought up in the story, sure.

goldjas posted:

So since your youtube channel 2 years of men Drinking Coffee thing shows a video of you guys playing Mega Man Zero..."3", does that mean we will see that in the future? (I know it's a typo, but I would actually not mind seeing you guys play that game, or the 4th one as well why not).

That was actually MMZ3, though.

judge reinhold fucked around with this message at 21:53 on May 10, 2014

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


judge reinhold posted:

If the questions are revealed via the story, I would prefer they be addressed around whatever segment they are so there's a bit of pacing and discovery. If they are never brought up in the story, sure.

Okay, I'll wait until we're a bit further into the plot.

bhlaab
Feb 21, 2005

Brassherald posted:

I'm curious about one thing. Is this magic or technology

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
What is this game's tagline?

"This is a game, and you are the player."

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

your evil twin posted:

I like to give credit where it is due, and I must say that intro was pretty cool. Also, like everyone else I thought 'huh' when the possessed civilians suddenly had guns. In the game I just assumed civillians suddenly had guns for reasons of gameplay, but they even put that into the intro cutscene, so... huh.

Of course, it could simply be that the game is set in America. Where everyone has a gun.

EDIT: Hahahaha, I went and did something else for a couple of minutes, then finished my post, and discovered everyone else already beat me to it.

I am American, and I have a bat I keep in my bedroom closet.

Redundant
Sep 24, 2011

Even robots have feelings!
I couldn't help reading that stuff from the manual like Rod Sterling.

AD 2031, an era where technology has begun to advance beyond the realm of human imagination. Jim Corbijn, FIA agent, was waiting for a woman: Rebecca Weiss, an anti-government activist due to arrive on the last flight of the day from Shanghai. The pair's encounter is marred by a sudden terrorist attack. As they fight to survive, they are soon sucked into a dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mind. They were about to cross over into The MindJack Zone!

Redundant fucked around with this message at 21:32 on May 10, 2014

Starving Wolf
Apr 2, 2010

MUCH LATER
Yams Fan

Samizdata posted:

I am American, and I have a bat I keep in my bedroom closet.

What do you feed it? :drac:

Also, this world apparently has inexplicably armored cyber-gorillas. I like this vision of future armed forces already.
(We're gonna be mindjacking one of those at some point, aren't we?)

your evil twin
Aug 23, 2010

"What we're dealing with...
is us! Those things look just like us!"

"Speak for yourself, I couldn't look that bad on a bet."

Redundant posted:

I couldn't help reading that stuff from the manual like Rod Sterling.

AD 2031, an era where technology has begun to advance beyond the realm of human imagination. Jim Corbijn, FIA agent, was waiting for a woman: Rebecca Weiss, an anti-government activist due to arrive on the last flight of the day from Shanghai. The pair's encounter is marred by a sudden terrorist attack. As they fight to survive, they are soon sucked into a dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mind. They were about to cross over into The MindJack Zone!

Someone should pay a voice-over artist to put that at the start of every episode of the LP.

Samizdata posted:

I am American, and I have a bat I keep in my bedroom closet.

Everyone knows true Americans are always armed and ready for action in case we try to re-colonise you. You think that bat is going to do the trick if the King of England comes to your house and starts pushing you around?

Japanese game developers teach me everything I need to know about the US. I was very impressed at the amount of research they must have done for Metal Wolf Chaos.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Redundant posted:

I couldn't help reading that stuff from the manual like Rod Sterling.

AD 2031, an era where technology has begun to advance beyond the realm of human imagination. Jim Corbijn, FIA agent, was waiting for a woman: Rebecca Weiss, an anti-government activist due to arrive on the last flight of the day from Shanghai. The pair's encounter is marred by a sudden terrorist attack. As they fight to survive, they are soon sucked into a dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mindcybermind. They were about to cross over into The MindJack Zone!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

your evil twin posted:

Someone should pay a voice-over artist to put that at the start of every episode of the LP.


Everyone knows true Americans are always armed and ready for action in case we try to re-colonise you. You think that bat is going to do the trick if the King of England comes to your house and starts pushing you around?

Japanese game developers teach me everything I need to know about the US. I was very impressed at the amount of research they must have done for Metal Wolf Chaos.

Look, if there's a job and a reasonably attractive woman in it for me, colonize away. I just live in an apartment building with some questionable neighbors. And if said monarch shows up, he's going to end up telling ME "Hail to the king, baby."

coleman francis
Aug 8, 2007

Tap tap
The ketchup bottle
None will come
Then axolotl
Hair Elf
You had me at cybergorillas

I810BUX
Aug 10, 2007

Cheesu~~
I'd let you guys jack my mind any day.

Are you gonna do anything with the "multiplayer" because I actually own this loving game

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

coleman francis posted:

You had me at cybergorillas

It is a travesty that the cybergorillas are not a tenth as cool as they should be.

I want to see this in the next Deus Ex game. Weaponized cyber-animals. More cyber-animals than Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon!

bhlaab
Feb 21, 2005

judge reinhold posted:

The thread is a bit restless, and I think I know why: people want to know more about the MindJack universe! So this video will put your questions to bed, some sort of futuristic bunk bed, I'm sure. It's the introductory cutscene.




Man "Red vs. Blue" was a lot funnier back in 2005

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.

Speedball posted:

I liked how this game had it so that guns either acted as a way to lock door consoles or unlock them. I guess it all depends where on the computer you shoot.

Someone thought the gun interface from the Super Mario Bros. movie was a good idea?

Cool use of multi-cam in this LP, guys.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

The Aquaman of game protagonists.

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Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


To be fair, those are actually useful. Their main function is to get possessed (hopefully by you) and then suicide into enemies.

To be fair, this would require you to leave your character under AI control which is not a good idea.

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