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Side effect of not having a job meant that I could finish the book in a day. Time to catch up on thread! Loved seeing Subconscious Harry again and I'm worried about Bob's increasingly high profile
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May 28, 2014 07:58
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ImpAtom posted:I'm really really waiting for the reveal that Bob is Necro-Evil Bob and the actual one is locked up or sealed away or something. This would be a really neat twist if it weren't so unlikely and probably debunked by interactions with Harry in Cold Days. Finished skimming thread I share someone's worry that Harry's spirit kid will shack up with Bob  . He hasn't named her yet, has he? I wouldn't worry too much about the lack of interaction with the two. It took him three friggin' books until he had a conversation with Maggie. It was a nice curveball but I'm sad Lash is goneHades being a bro was rad as hell. I'd love to see a scene with him, Harry and Rashid together. Also Mouse getting along with Spot. I would be happy to see Murphy transition into an Oracle-type character.
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May 28, 2014 09:11
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jivjov posted:Something I haven't seen a lot of people bring up...more weight is given to the Harry has some kind of Naming power theory. Yeah like tons. It was pretty much confirmed when Uriel freaked out in Ghost Story What's the list at now? Bob Lash Alfred Demonreach Mr. Sunshine Erl Mouse?
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May 28, 2014 09:16
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CPFinnit posted:Did anyone catch Maggie calling herself a Dinosaur Cowgirl? Just like her old man. Oh man I can't believe I missed this. Speaking of Hecate. Can anyone with a better understanding of Greek Mythology tell me if she's supposed to be a prior incarnation of Summer/Winter faeries or is Hecate distinct enough to be the "Third" faerie queen that has been hinted at previously. Also, what's the deal with Goodman Grey's payment being 1 dollar. That's twice now Harry managed to swing the service of a heavy hitter for cheap. In Cold Days he got advice from Vadderung for pocket change. Sure they have a history and Vadderung likes him, but still. Is there some sort of allusion or reference I'm missing? I'm pretty interested who Grey owes Rent to.
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May 28, 2014 18:49
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AllTerrineVehicle posted:Vadderung helped Harry for a nickel because he actually wanted to help him and so asked for something trivial in return, because it's against his nature to do something for free. I assume a similar thing is going on with Grey. Or perhaps it's the nature of the exchange that he benefits from. Maybe completing a bargain has value to him in and of itself. That's a good point. It might be Grey needs to do 'a good deed' every so often to maintain his 'good-guy-nagloshii' status. I seem to remember him looking at Michael weirdly when Michael went all Archangel mode in the bank vault. More random thoughts from the book: I guess Ferrovax is a progressive Dragon seeing as he doesn't hoard everything and banks some of his loot with Marcone 
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May 28, 2014 19:05
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Illuyankas posted:Oh, and while Lasciel mentioned it, I'd say with what we know now about his power set that it was Anduriel who whispered into Harry's ear. Makes sense but how the hell did he do that while on church grounds? Darkrenown posted:Good read. Some thoughts: My guess is he met him in a short story that hasn't yet been collected into a compilation Darkrenown posted:Good read. Some thoughts: My read on this that the Christ-artifacts are simply powerful on a worldwide belief scale in that they have a large number of followers therefore imbuing the relevant religious symbols with Power. No idea how they would be used practically. Locker Room Zubaz posted:
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May 29, 2014 01:14
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wheatpuppy posted:Some thoughts: I'm pretty sure in the book Maggie tells Harry that Molly has been telling her stories about Harry's exploits Illuyankas posted:^ Not onscreen he hasn't, not yet - McCoy didn't know as of Turn Coat and they don't discuss it after that What's the timeframe now since Harry and McCoy have spoken? Ghost Days was 6 months after Chicken Itza. He comes back to Chicago after 3 months of rehab so about 1 year from Chicken Itza. He spend 1 year hanging out on Demonreach so it's been two years since they've talked? Man I can't wait to see how Rashid handled Harry's White Council affairs.
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May 29, 2014 05:04
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Bunnita posted:I was able to ask one more question, which was obvious as I think about it. I asked why it took so long for Ebenezer to take Harry in. Apparently Harry was at Justin's on Ebenezer's orders, no one had any idea the guy was evil. McCoy probably wanted to distance himself from Harry considering how poorly the last time he tried to mentor a relative.
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May 29, 2014 07:02
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Mars4523 posted:And, yeah, that scene at the Gate was just incredibly tacky. Did Harry need to strip buck naked to complete his task (with Anna Valmont and Hannah leering at him), despite the fact that the superchilled temperatures he faced would have frozen his clothes solid and immobile? Nope. Is it fair to excuse these gratuitous sexy female scenes as Lashiel the Temptress doing her flirty bit with Harry/the rest of the crew? I still don't really know where I stand on the whole issue.
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May 29, 2014 07:08
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Silento posted:Justin took Bob from Kemmler's hideout and hid him from the wardens, so clearly he hasn't been completely on the up-and-up for a while. Or maybe Evil Bob corrupted Justin!
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May 29, 2014 20:10
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why oh WHY posted:I think it's safe to assume that he beat their poo poo in. He was fighting the B team and they didn't have their leader so I doubt that it was more than he could handle Who was seen in Iran again? I can't remember and my brother has the book now. I ask to confirm that Thorned Namshiel is still MIA right? But since Tessa is here we can probably rule out her involvement with Nemesis/Thorned/the attack on Arctis Tor.
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May 30, 2014 00:24
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You know... lost in the whole Ascher business.... During the early stages of the book, I genuinely hoped Harry had made a friend on Nico's team and I was hoping that there's be a multi book arc about Dresden befriending and reforming a warlock and maybe planting the seeds of a Warlocks Anonymous or something.
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May 30, 2014 06:39
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How many more short stories until we can get a new compilation? I'm getting impatient but I'm too lazy to track them all down.
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Jun 8, 2014 03:10
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:New personal pet theory as I work my way through the re-read: Wait how is this possible? I thought Ivy's mom is dead, or else Ivy wouldn't be The Archive.
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Jun 12, 2014 19:20
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So are you assuming The Grail has restorative properties, ala The Last Crusade? Would that fit in-universe when we already have The Shroud of Turin?
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Jun 12, 2014 19:29
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Illuyankas posted:Wow, I must have been consistantly misreading that part then cause I'd always thought that Sarissa was the one with the dementia being staved off by Mab in exchange for her service. Yeah me too.
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Jun 14, 2014 03:31
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Raygereio posted:We didn't see Molly use the cellphone in front her parents. Either she's careful about that or she came up with some lie about a built-in magic circle or something. I don't understand what conclusion we're supposed to pull from Molly looking like the Hecate statue. Is it supposed to mean that Molly's transformation to fae is happening faster than we realize? Or does it mean that Molly was always meant to become a fae because of historical incarnations?
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Jun 14, 2014 23:17
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It's funny how (spoilers for the new guy don't click this!) a bunch of wizards carry around a Batman Utility Belt with potions except for Harry. I think, Merlin and Elaine have a bunch of potions always ready? Harry being prepared is never a thing and it is great.
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Jun 22, 2014 07:55
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Renegret posted:I just started reading this series last week and I was going to post this: Come back and post your thoughts as you work your way through the series. This thread loves newbie reactions and speculations.
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Jun 29, 2014 21:39
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Einander posted:It came up earlier in the thread, so I have to say: man, The Magician's Land is goddamn excellent. Easy 10/10, good at every single portion of the book, makes excellent use of the material from the previous books and retroactively elevates both of them. I can't recommend it highly enough. Better than the first two books you say? That's promising! I enjoyed the first two, but there were definitely some issues.
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Aug 6, 2014 08:23
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The flip side is if you enjoyed Storm Front, you will manage Fool Moon. I don't know why you would want to deprive yourself of more Dresden. Plus, it makes the resulting leap in quality in the latter books that much more impressive after you've read the first two books.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:51
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Wittgen posted:Butcher said somewhere that maintaining his magical tools is the equivalent of a part time job. I think time, not money, has always been the limiting factor on how many magical tools Harry has access to. This won't be a problem once his standing army Little Folk 'level up'. He'll have his own elves! Take that Kringle!
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Aug 17, 2014 07:22
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KellHound posted:So I posted this when I first got it back in March but I got my Harry Dresden and Murphy watercolors by Tyler Crook framed. Check it out I'm so jealous.
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Oct 10, 2014 21:52
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A. Beaverhausen posted:I'm rereading the series, and I just love how Butcher does chapters. I always want to read 'just one more' before going to sleep, then it's loving morning. On my third series reread, I finally caught wise to this. If I want to stop, I need to stop in the middle of a chapter instead of going to the end for precisely that reason.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:17
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ConfusedUs posted:What bothers you about it? drat it now I'm trying to talk myself into giving it a second chance, at least until book 3. I found the first book to be extremely lackluster. I found the tropes tired and predictale. I think I enjoyed the climax or maybe only in comparison to the rest of the book.
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Dec 10, 2014 19:52
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thrawn527 posted:I started and finished Grave Peril over the weekend, and sweet Jesus you were right about it getting better. That book was amazing. Be sure to come back to the thread after each book and post your thoughts and theories. It's what fuels the thread in between books.
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Apr 21, 2015 05:08
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ImpAtom posted:Blood Rites suffers a lot for being one of the worst books in the series but having so many important things happen in it that it isn't really skippable. The core plot is just bad. Like straight-up bad. The murder mystery is really poorly done, the porn studio stuff is Butcher at his worst, and it drags down the really strong parts of the book. The Black Court stuff is more interesting and the Thomas stuff is critically important (if not my favorite plotline) so it hurts that it's caught in the middle of otherwise one of the weakest of the books. And mouse! That's important too!
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May 11, 2015 15:47
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I'm two days late to the party but I'm glad thrawn finally got to the Sue payoff and posted about it.  It is also my favorite part of newbie readers in the thread and the picture of Harry riding Sue in the OP is basically the entire reason I started the series.
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May 25, 2015 18:20
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Wade Wilson posted:James Marsters is a good fit, but nowhere near as good as Kobna Holdbrook-Smith for Rivers of London. Kobna's hilariously bad American accent amuses me greatly
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Jun 20, 2015 06:49
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thrawn527 posted:No seriously, he's dead? What?! Just so you know, a bunch of us consider Changes-Ghost Story-Cold Days to be a 3 book arc of the same story so don't think you can stop after Ghost Story I am glad you enjoyed Changes.
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Aug 3, 2015 03:46
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I just finished Foxglove Summer and now I'm out of Rivers of London audiobooks to listen to while I walk my dog.  I enjoyed it for the change of pace compared to the Dresden Files. The pace is so much slower than what I'm used to getting from Dresden and getting it in bits and pieces as an audiobook also didn't help matters. While it sure felt like all Peter does is grasp in the dark, the climaxes were almost always exciting and satisfying so it was worth the listen. I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about the vaguery of the magic system, but that might be because I've read too much Brandon Sanderson. Do we know how many books Aaronovitch plans on writting for this series? The stakes seem to be ramping up.
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Aug 8, 2015 04:19
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Oroborus posted:Harry mentions a few times I think that members of the counsel fear him a bit due to stories of things he has done. The one i remember off the top of my head is near the end of turn coat. Rygar201 posted:Yeah they know what he's done but not the How. So most people with sense are terrified of him. *insert White Council Dresden dossier here*
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I've been slowly making my way through the recommended series in the OP as audiobooks while I walk the dog. I enjoyed Rivers of London and I just finished the most recent Alex Verus book. Verus was an enjoyable listen, albeit each book felt quite 1-track and any meta links between the books sure felt like they would pop up 1 book, payoff the next and then disappear entirely (rip air elemental and that merc that captured the spider). I suppose it's a bit unfair for me to compare it to Dresden as much but the OP seems to set it up as the most direct comparison. Also regarding the most recent book, Burned, man was that final 1/3rd a rollercoaster of anticipated payoffs and wet farts. I expected the artifact to be some sort of ticking time bomb and wiping out most of the light council or something after I heard whispers in this thread that it was 'Changes'-level stuff but ultimately it was something completely different geez. Maybe I was falsely anticipating a Sanderson-avalanche. Still, I'm eager to see what the new dynamic looks like and if we'll finally get to see Verus and Ann get together, or get together with Rachel, or get together with that white council dude who's name I'm forgetting right now. I think I liked Rivers of London better as a world but Alex Verus was a more straightforward listen to accompany my dog walks. Sorry about the rambling stream of consciousness thoughts I've been working my way through a book a month for the past year. I suppose The Rook is next? I don't suppose there's something a bit more fun and filled with a bit more action you guys thing I should switch to next beyond the OP suggestions? Mr Scumbag posted:So I'm exactly 25% of the way through Ghost Story right now and it's kind of... Bad? Just really tedious and with nothing much happening. Feels kind of phoned in, almost like it's by a different author. Really hope it's not representative of future books. A lot of people feel this way so don't feel too guilty. Like MildShow mentioned, Ghost Story is much more palatable if you consider it to be the 'interlude' of a 3-book arc starting from Changes and ending with Cold Days.
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Decius posted:For Alex Verus, Jacka clearly had to remove/weaken some things from the after the first book, to make him far less powerful. The tame Air Elemental was one of them, and not even the most overpowered one. Yeah for sure. When he got rid of it I understood why he was doing it. I can't remember the other things that got eventually written out, can you remind me? I think that was one thing that I really enjoyed from Book 1 was that Verus was a fully formed active individual and there has been no upwards power growth when in fact the opposite occurred. Beyond armor and more friends I suppose. Wheat Loaf posted:I think The Rook would actually fit there - not all action, certainly, but it is great fun. Excellent!
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mistaya posted:RE: The Rook Audiobook Thanks for the heads up. Speaking of 'American' accents, the guy that makes American accents in the Rivers of London audiobooks always made me laugh. Mr Scumbag posted:I finished Ghost Story. Did you enjoy the Murphy post-Changes short story from Sidejobs? I would have liked more of that. Man that reminds me Butcher needs to make another anthology so I can read the bigfoot and Molly stories. Also someone remind me the 'energy belt' that Dresden had? I can't remember it all. I only remember the werewolf belts.
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Aug 2, 2016 14:33
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Mr Scumbag posted:I don't think the first few books were all that bad as much as just mediocre. As stories they worked well enough and were inoffensive. They all flowed well enough and made sense, they just didn't have particularly compelling characters and situations. They're coherent and flow pretty well. I would say read it now. Murphy's story for sure. I always read the Murph story after Changes because that's where it shows up chronologically. The other ones are like side-vignettes to past stories that are fun and amusing so it's up to you but I particularily like Harry's Day Off. Wade Wilson posted:Murphy's story in Side Jobs ought to be near-mandatory reading. I haven't read DW yet but I presume this is how (Cold Days spoilers) Molly gets her place from the Svart-somethingsomething? Xtanstic fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Aug 2, 2016 |
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Aug 2, 2016 15:36
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I just finished the first two Libromancer books. Series is a decent enough romp to tide me over while I wait. Goddamnit Gutenberg is a prick.
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Nov 29, 2016 07:54
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Oh my god why did it take so long for me to give The Rook a listen. It's my favorite of the recommended books from the OP so far and British narrators failing at American accents continues to make me laugh, though it's nowhere near as terrible as the Rivers of London guy. I can't believe I enjoyed an amnesia plot point.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:gently caress you the Rivers of London narrator is amazing. Agreed. I just laugh at bad American accents.
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