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Ixtlilton posted:I'm pretty sure he said scummiest on your team, not in your doc. mr.capps posted:There is no reason for a joke phase to exist in this game, we all have docs were we should be getting good reads on people because in those docs people are actively working together.
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Pander posted:That's bullshit. The implication was pretty clear. See below. mr.capps posted:hey other empires who is your scummiest player? Still right  Also, he didn't say it was the only way to contribute, so you're being hyperbolic regardless.
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I'm getting weird ~~vibes~~ from the Crazyeyes and 50 Pounds of Bread side of this argument. Although I agree that capps is asking for reads too early, his request is minor and does not necessitate their overly defensive response. This fact is especially evident given that capps was sated by a non-answer like: Crazyeyes posted:Ernie is the most scummy because all he has done is pop in, say hi, and then left. This will change when he returns to the doc later. Our team thread has had very little activity but if forced to make a call, I would say Juanito is the scummiest player.
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Your Personal Muse posted:Confirming. You are in JavCo. capps is MediFed. busb posted:
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Mediterranean Federation (MediFed) 
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VivaNova posted:You are in JavCo.  This is interesting!
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We have 25 players divided into 5 subgroups. That is a lot of players, so why not have the groups look at themselves, since you know they are in a group doing stuff together, just to give us a bit focus. This does not mean there are not other ways to contribute or you can't look for scum outside your own group. Ixtlilton posted:Still right Thank you.
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I do think Pander is heavily overreacting to Capps just doing Capps things.
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VivaNova posted:You are in JavCo. My claim still stands
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QuoProQuid posted:I'm getting weird ~~vibes~~ from the Crazyeyes and 50 Pounds of Bread side of this argument. Although I agree that capps is asking for reads too early, his request is minor and does not necessitate their overly defensive response. This fact is especially evident given that capps was sated by a non-answer like: The back and forth was entirely necessary because it not only forced Capps to explain why he thought it was a good idea, but also revealed that his reasoning was lovely and 100% meant to look like he was doing something when it was, and remains to be, a completely pointless exercise. I therefore think he is scummy for it.
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YPM, what's the question of the game?
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Ixtlilton posted:YPM, what's the question of the game? There is no question, it's all a lie.
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Rarity posted:I do think Pander is heavily overreacting to Capps just doing Capps things. "Who in your empire is scummy?" "nobody really" "that's impossible!" *vote* "no it's not, here's why." "okay." *unvote* Scummy.
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mr.capps posted:We have 25 players divided into 5 subgroups. That is a lot of players, so why not have the groups look at themselves, since you know they are in a group doing stuff together, just to give us a bit focus. I think though that based on your posts and the posts from the rest of your group, you guys may be a lot more active than others. Two of ours haven't even opened the doc as far as I can tell.
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Your Personal Muse posted:My claim still stands
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Pander posted:How can it stand since he's not in your coalition? It is what you hu-mans call a joke. My circuits are wired to make such jokes in order to make the hu-mans more at ease.
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Ixtlilton posted:I'm pretty sure he said scummiest on your team, not in your doc. That's an interesting interpretation. Tell me exactly how you would answer both versions of that question. I'm curious.
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Asiina posted:I think though that based on your posts and the posts from the rest of your group, you guys may be a lot more active than others. Two of ours haven't even opened the doc as far as I can tell. We're a pretty chatty group, all in all. And we're all buddies! Except for that jerk DGK, who needs to talk more, and be buddies with us. Buddies! Yay!
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Asiina posted:I think though that based on your posts and the posts from the rest of your group, you guys may be a lot more active than others. Two of ours haven't even opened the doc as far as I can tell. Thing is this is an ongoing thing. I don't expect the reads to be too good this early buts a thing as empires we should be asking ourselves every once in a while.
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QuoProQuid posted:That's an interesting interpretation. Tell me exactly how you would answer both versions of that question. This seems like a question set up to call me scum no matter how I answer, but whatever. I told him literally what capps said, they are different things because Pander was implying you capps had said only doc stuff was usable when he didn't. Also, on my team I have 3 people who haven't posted in the thread and one who hasn't posted in the doc unless I'm forgetting someone, so probably one of the guys who's posted in there but not here for the total one and the guy who hasn't posted for the just doc one.
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Ixtlilton posted:This seems like a question set up to call me scum no matter how I answer, but whatever. I told him literally what capps said, they are different things because Pander was implying you capps had said only doc stuff was usable when he didn't. Also, on my team I have 3 people who haven't posted in the thread and one who hasn't posted in the doc unless I'm forgetting someone, so probably one of the guys who's posted in there but not here for the total one and the guy who hasn't posted for the just doc one. Where did Capps say just the doc was to be used? This is a really weird explanation overall, methinks...
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Crazyeyes posted:Where did Capps say just the doc was to be used? This is a really weird explanation overall, methinks... HE DIDN'T, THAT'S THE POINT
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Ixtlilton posted:HE DIDN'T, THAT'S THE POINT It seems I misread your post. Carry on.
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Ixtlilton posted:This seems like a question set up to call me scum no matter how I answer, but whatever. I told him literally what capps said, they are different things because Pander was implying you capps had said only doc stuff was usable when he didn't. Also, on my team I have 3 people who haven't posted in the thread and one who hasn't posted in the doc unless I'm forgetting someone, so probably one of the guys who's posted in there but not here for the total one and the guy who hasn't posted for the just doc one. I don't understand what you are saying here. Could you please try to be clearer? My grievance with your earlier post is that it is that I don't know what you could think capps is referring to unless you are part of some other team. Nothing about your response makes sense unless it is a scum slip. ##vote: Ixt
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QuoProQuid posted:I don't understand what you are saying here. Could you please try to be clearer? What the gently caress? How? Capps literally said something that was different from what Pander said he said and we literally have a doc for our empires and how does that make me part of some other team? I explained that difference in my post. At least I was right about your motivation for asking the question, because holy poo poo it was obvious.
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Ixtlilton posted:What the gently caress? How? Capps literally said something that was different from what Pander said he said and we literally have a doc for our empires and how does that make me part of some other team? I explained that difference in my post. At least I was right about your motivation for asking the question, because holy poo poo it was obvious. take a breath use ur words its going to be okay. Why are you freaking out?
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QuoProQuid posted:I don't understand what you are saying here. Could you please try to be clearer? I think you're really getting the wrong end of the stick here
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QuoProQuid posted:take a breath I'm not, why are you intentionally being dense?
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Meh. I'm loving thrilled with my team right now because we're all people that will play the part of this game that isn't mafia super seriously. And everyone who has posted in our chat is doing just that. I'm leaving my vote for capps for two reasons. 1.) Pretty much everything that has been said in the thread so far. I think the idea of having to pick a member of our team that is 'scummiest' without trying to find scum is a stupid plan. If capps wanted to find scum, sure, but he even straight up says that he's not looking for scum, just scummy play. 2.) I seriously want to find out if busb put in conditionals for aragon falling with castille still alive. I wouldn't put it past him.
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Ixtlilton posted:What the gently caress? How? Capps literally said something that was different from what Pander said he said and we literally have a doc for our empires and how does that make me part of some other team? I explained that difference in my post. At least I was right about your motivation for asking the question, because holy poo poo it was obvious. Calm down. People are voting you because you are being really overly defensive. The only reason I'm not voting you is because you did the same exact thing as town one game when I was putting a little bit of pressure on you. Your point is really dumb and is basically semantics.
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Your Personal Muse posted:Calm down. People are voting you because you are being really overly defensive. The only reason I'm not voting you is because you did the same exact thing as town one game when I was putting a little bit of pressure on you. There's one vote on me, YPM, and it wasn't for being overly defensive. But yes, it was semantics, but important semantics.
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mr.capps posted:You just did this: This is the quote I'm talking about with capps straight up saying, not looking for scum.
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Ixtlilton posted:I'm not, why are you intentionally being dense? Someone in my CoalitionDoc just pointed out that when you said: Ixtlilton posted:I'm pretty sure he said scummiest on your team, not in your doc. "Team" you meant all of the players in the game. I was confused because I had never seen the playerbase referred to in such a way and had no idea what you were referring to, except some other faction that you were a part of. I'm satisfied for the time being with your response now that I understand what you intended to say. ##Unvote
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Wait are people arguing over the difference between team and doc? Because that's like...the same thing?
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But what about EMPIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Amnistar posted:Wait are people arguing over the difference between team and doc? Because that's like...the same thing? It's D1 and there's nothing else to talk about. It seems like people jump on the most ridiculous stuff as scumtells. Poque, shoot capps again so that things get interesting please.
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Rarity posted:It's D1 and there's nothing else to talk about. It seems like people jump on the most ridiculous stuff as scumtells. Please do. I want to inherit his land.
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Amnistar posted:Wait are people arguing over the difference between team and doc? Because that's like...the same thing? I still like the meta defense of "Capps being capps!" Rarity posted:I do think Pander is heavily overreacting to Capps just doing Capps things.
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Rarity posted:It's D1 and there's nothing else to talk about. It seems like people jump on the most ridiculous stuff as scumtells. ##vote Rarity Getting interestinger?
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Rarity posted:It's D1 and there's nothing else to talk about. It seems like people jump on the most ridiculous stuff as scumtells. it IS kill capps month.... ... ......!!! but no, because I like him and also I don't have a gun
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