Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


BaseballPCHiker posted:

Still sometimes I do wonder what I could make leaving for the private sector.

I have that thought a lot myself. Grass always seems greener but I'm here for at least another 5 years since they're paying for my tuition.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




BaseballPCHiker posted:

I work local government and I love every minute of it. Super low stress, but still we're big enough and have enough budget that we get to do lots without getting bogged down by state level bureaucracies. I get great benefits a good pension and health care, 18 days of PTO just two years in and I leave my work at work every night.

Still sometimes I do wonder what I could make leaving for the private sector.

I left the private sector because of the unethical bullshit, stress and burnout, lack of regard for human beings, and greed. I'm in the public sector now at an organization where I get to do modern cloud DevSecOps work, and have a positive impact on society and other people. Yes, I could make more money privately. But life isn't all about money. And life is too short to just greedily chase a paycheque without regard for what is, in reality, more important.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

CLAM DOWN posted:

I left the private sector because of the unethical bullshit, stress and burnout, lack of regard for human beings, and greed. I'm in the public sector now at an organization where I get to do modern cloud DevSecOps work, and have a positive impact on society and other people. Yes, I could make more money privately. But life isn't all about money. And life is too short to just greedily chase a paycheque without regard for what is, in reality, more important.

Thats where I'm at. Everyone here treats one another with respect, people are kind and understanding. Its such a nice change of pace from my previous MSP and corporate job. People dont expect you to work crazy hours or to drop everything else in your life to finish some work project. Maybe in a few years I'll get desperate for the money but right now I still get paid enough to live well and actually have a job that isnt killing me from stress.

Aunt Beth
Feb 24, 2006

Baby, you're ready!
Grimey Drawer
Local government employee here too. Pay is quite good and benefits are fantastic. After-hours support burden is minimal. Our department's structure and management is unsurprisingly a flaming dumpster fire, but thanks to being a top-down bureaucracy it seems change is coming to that soon.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Still in the process of finding a new place and this conversation has me jonesing to find something good. Just hard to turn down a job offer when you're currently unemployed. Got plenty of time, but man I am already antsy after a week.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




BaseballPCHiker posted:

Thats where I'm at. Everyone here treats one another with respect, people are kind and understanding. Its such a nice change of pace from my previous MSP and corporate job. People dont expect you to work crazy hours or to drop everything else in your life to finish some work project. Maybe in a few years I'll get desperate for the money but right now I still get paid enough to live well and actually have a job that isnt killing me from stress.

My public sector org still pays very well for our cloud/devops stuff, like I'm at 6 figures. It's not Amazon levels for sure, but it's more than enough to live comfortably by, and I decided a while back that it's worth it. And the union benefits and work/life balance is surreal. I love it. As long as this role keeps challenging me and stays interesting, I can definitely see myself taking advantage of this sweet sweet pension.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Sepist posted:

My friend is a senior network engineer at Amazon Go and his base is 150 but he started with 200k-ish in RSUs and gets quite a few every year hes there. His original RSUs are worth over 500k now. Personally I prefer to have the higher salary than RSUs

When I started at AWS five years ago, AMZN was around $280 and I remember feeling super bummed that I'd missed the stock surge that comes with a new company that turns the corner and starts gaining momentum. The only thing I did right was doing nothing and letting my RSUs sit for five years.

But ordinarily I'm like you and prefer not to gamble with my income. I know personally a couple of guys who took income in the form of 80% stock in start ups during the late 90s dot-com boom and then had to file bankruptcy because their stocks were underwater and they owed taxes on the strike price.

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I work local government and I love every minute of it. Super low stress, but still we're big enough and have enough budget that we get to do lots without getting bogged down by state level bureaucracies. I get great benefits a good pension and health care, 18 days of PTO just two years in and I leave my work at work every night.

Still sometimes I do wonder what I could make leaving for the private sector.

My first jobs were in public sector and I enjoyed them too. But the pace was a lot slower than private sector and the dot-coms were happening so I left for an environmental engineering startup. Which soon folded. :D

Agrikk fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Apr 16, 2019

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I'm in an odd public/private hybrid situation. I get good benefits, good pay (not FAANG pay, but above average for the region). My only complaint is that I'm less than a year away from finishing some longer term projects and if nothing changes I'm going to bore-out if nothing changes.

That being said, between the continually pending remodel and potential vp shakeup, I might try getting out earlier than that.

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

CLAM DOWN posted:

My public sector org still pays very well for our cloud/devops stuff, like I'm at 6 figures. It's not Amazon levels for sure, but it's more than enough to live comfortably by, and I decided a while back that it's worth it. And the union benefits and work/life balance is surreal. I love it. As long as this role keeps challenging me and stays interesting, I can definitely see myself taking advantage of this sweet sweet pension.

Now we're talking! Thats one of the great benefits here as well, that sweet tasty pension. If I never left jobs and kept getting cost of living adjustments at our current rates I could comfortably retire at 50 easily. If I work another 5 years here I'll be up to 7 weeks vacation too. That makes the difference in pay a whole lot easier to take.

I've learned that these local government jobs are very insular to a degree. If you do good work and get a good reputation there is nothing that prevents you from making a move to a a different city/org or even up to the state level if you wanted to.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
I work at a Financial Institution and would certainly describe the work culture as good. That being said I would describe my paycheck as woefully bad, but they are carving a path for me to be doing exactly what I want to be doing. We'll see what kinda dollars that levels out to, but at the very least I'll finally be doing interesting things rather than wasting away like I have been for the last couple years.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

ChubbyThePhat posted:

I work at a Financial Institution and would certainly describe the work culture as good. That being said I would describe my paycheck as woefully bad, but they are carving a path for me to be doing exactly what I want to be doing. We'll see what kinda dollars that levels out to, but at the very least I'll finally be doing interesting things rather than wasting away like I have been for the last couple years.

I hope they're not just blowing smoke up your rear end.

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
I'm having a real first world problem at the office lately. Our ping pong table is super close to our largest conference room. It is constantly booked and they've instituted a no ping pong rule when the conference room is used. 30 feet away is the same sized conference room but its B instead of A so it gets used much less and doesnt have the same ping pong rule. I just want them to change the designation so I can play ping pong more :(

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

mllaneza posted:

Powershell is about using it instead of the GUI. I've been making conscious efforts to Google the Powershell for what I need to look up. It's taking some time to internalize it all, but God willing I've run regedit.exe for the last time.


Say what you will about Apple, but since El Capitan, wiggling the mouse like a madman enlarges the pointer to make it more visible. That's a QoL feature I use at least weekly.

My dad just ordered a new iMac and learning about this will probably make his (...and therefore my) use experience better.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Agrikk posted:

All I know is what I make and it's not polite to talk about salaries. :D
Thank you for the really great post about AWS, Agrikk; it's genuinely appreciated. I'm gonna single this out, because it's a big frustration point for me that people feel this way. It is 100% polite to talk about how much money you make. Everyone should do it. The only people being helped by not talking about it are your employers, and the people they pay to underpay you (unless you are one of those people paid to underpay people; and even then, unless your title is abbreviated in three or four letters starting with "C," there's a good chance someone is being paid to underpay you, too). The social pressure for this is really similar to the social pressure to buy a diamond engagement ring that puts a substantial financial strain on you; it is bad for us as individuals, and really terrible for us as a society.

Ham Equity fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Apr 16, 2019

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


If someone doesn't want to talk about their salary online that is totally cool imo. It's the bosses at work telling staff not to discuss it when I have an issue.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Thanks Ants posted:

If someone doesn't want to talk about their salary online that is totally cool imo. It's the bosses at work telling staff not to discuss it when I have an issue.

Luckily, as I'm public sector in my province, I don't have a choice! My salary gets posted online along with my name/position whether I want it to or not :|

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


When I was at rackspace the vp of support emailed out a spreadsheet of everyone’s salary under him.

It was kinda shocking how little some people got paid.

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.
Anyone who wants too, feel free to post their job title, company, salary and tenure ITT.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Also the idiots that got paid really well. Pays to be a brown noser I guess.

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




Agrikk posted:

Anyone who wants too, feel free to post their job title, company, salary and tenure ITT.

*ahem*

$69,420

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Paul ReiserFS posted:

*ahem*

$69,420

How do you live?

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Paul ReiserFS posted:

*ahem*

$69,420

Nice!

NeuralSpark
Apr 16, 2004

While I wouldn't post it in a public place (esp. 'cause goons), I know what all my team members make and what a lot of co-workers in other groups in my division make. Honestly, there aren't many surprises there. Fortune 5 company.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Oh hey, I technically have a new personal record for bash scripts at 361 lines.

I say 'technically' because it's the output of a 25 line script I wrote to automate what would otherwise be a ridiculously tedious iptables task.

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




jaegerx posted:

How do you live?

Nicely

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!



I don’t get out of bed for less than 150k now.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Agrikk posted:

Anyone who wants too, feel free to post their job title, company, salary and tenure ITT.
I mean... I'm in a small company, so all that would be doxing myself, but:

I work for a small not-for-profit in the finance sector in a hybrid IT/Operations position (mostly IT, but a lot of stuff I touch directly affects Operations) and I made $54,000 last year, after cashing in some PTO.

Thanks Ants posted:

If someone doesn't want to talk about their salary online that is totally cool imo. It's the bosses at work telling staff not to discuss it when I have an issue.
I look at not discussing your compensation with your coworkers the same way I look at not separating your recycling and compost from your garbage: it's your choice, but it's kind of a dick move, and it would be better for everyone if you get with the program.

I'm definitely fine with people not doing it in dead, gay forums on the internet.

Ham Equity fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Apr 17, 2019

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
I make 23 an hour, but it's just NOC Jocking, and my commute is like 12 minutes each way.

:shrug:

E: It's also Milwaukee which is cheap af.

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

I'm making 64k a year as tier 1 windows sysadmin in a 24/7 ops center (Detroit area).

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

48k, Director of Infrastructure at a pubic college. I could be making a shitton more if I were willing to relocate, but I'm happy where I'm at :shrug:

E: and in this case Infrastructure is servers, storage, networking (wired, wireless, fiber, loving telco too), door access, cameras, desktop support, vendor and contract management.... Basically everything that's not programming or LMS. 4 full-timers under me with a dozen student helpdesk techs.

CloFan fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Apr 17, 2019

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
55k as a network admin. I was making 62 in support at a software company but had a stretch of unemployment before accepting this offer. At least I’m enjoying the work WAY more, but still feel like I hosed myself by not negotiating at all. My 2nd job in my 4 years in the IT area of work

Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read
70k as a network admin in the Baltimore. area. It’s mostly project work at this point and starting to move into azure with a touch of devops stuff. We just had our first successful ‘cloud’ product launch and it’s making me want to ask for a raise.

We get 3% annually but that doesn’t really keep up with the market.

PancakeTransmission
May 27, 2007

You gotta improvise, Lisa: cloves, Tom Collins mix, frozen pie crust...


Plaster Town Cop

CLAM DOWN posted:

Luckily, as I'm public sector in my province, I don't have a choice! My salary gets posted online along with my name/position whether I want it to or not :|
Jeez, they put your name against it in Canada? Gross. I'm public sector in Australia, but luckily no names or even positions. Just the salary bands are online. I'm making more than the median individual salary in Australia (which is US$40k), but significantly less than US computer touchers.
That's fine with me - no stress, 38 hour weeks, no on-call, 4 weeks PTO, 15 paid sick days a year. Overtime paid if we need to do scheduled/emergency maintenance after hours. The trade-off is the glacial pace that everyone moves at. I'm the youngest in the office - half these people have been here for over 15 years.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





80,000 in Houston. Doing senior admin level work apparently. I'm the most knowledgeable server guy here now. Previous senior guy just left and doubled his salary. I think I'm gonna try and do the same.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


$85k in Anchorage, Alaska. I am officially a Systems Administrator, but my responsibilities are pretty wide and I do everything from user support to infrastructure design.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
I'll play.

Sr. Communications Specialist. Some bs title idk what it even means, I think it just refers to the fact that I'm literally the only person with any Telecom background. ~$81,000 salaried.
When I started this job 4 years ago it was half that.

A series of unfortunate (for others) events and a revolving door or replacements apparently clued management to the fact that maybe the couple people that stuck around to keep the lights on might be worth hanging on to. I got a 12k raise recently that I consider them getting paid up on their bullshit tax.

It's not the greatest salary but I live very comfortably on it. The wife even managed to drop a day from her schedule every 2 weeks.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


165k San Antonio. Remote. You gotta get in on this container racket. It’s great

Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read

jaegerx posted:

165k San Antonio. Remote. You gotta get in on this container racket. It’s great

What aspect of it? I helped introduce k8s here and setup the pipelines we use to deploy to it. Unfortunately I’m not a dev by any means.

Are there positions out there for sysadmins but uh, only for container workloads? Or what?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




$60k, Bay Area (rent control !) doing OpsEngineering (scripting and virtualization projects) at a biotech. I could be making more money (lovely MSP between my pockets and theirs), but they leave me alone to play with kvm, Powershell, and bash all week.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply