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ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

bull3964 posted:

Most companies MitM SSL on company owned devices.

We sure do.

What an awful snipe. Have some of my morning entertainment:

ChubbyThePhat fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 7, 2019

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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




We block Gmail etc but we're public sector with strict PII regulations.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003
All "third party" mail was blocked at the bank, which was real entertaining when they started the 365 testing.

At current job, we're pretty good about allowing access. I did get a ticket this morning about not being able to get to a gunshow site. Normally I don't care much what people visit if they give me a good reason and it's not porn, but just having the reason as "I have the right to look at guns" is uh...factually untrue? Canada doesn't have a second amendment, BECKY.

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
We allow it for now but header rewrite on decrypted https traffic is in my roadmap for 2020. We only want to allow sanctioned slack/google stuff.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


There's a guy at work who will have meetings just to waste time and look busy (I am aware this is not a unique trait). He will happily take up a couple of people's time for 45 minutes, ask for help on something that he's trying to troubleshoot, and at the end of the meeting we will all have some sort of perception of consensus on how to make progress. Then we will get an email a couple of days later requesting another meeting to discuss the problem, and stating that [troubleshooting step that we never mentioned] didn't work and how he really needs some more help, all the while pushing back on the recommendations that were made the day before and consensus was reached on.

It's such bizarre behaviour. This guy also seems to love being busy regardless of whether the effort is being spent wisely, while refusing to automate anything. I guess a decent amount of this blame lies with his boss not trying to figure out why touching 45 Intune-managed PCs is a good use of their time vs. just writing, testing and deploying a script, but I can't personally get into the mindset where I'd opt to repeat boring tasks rather than learning a skill to make the boring task take care of itself.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Thanks Ants posted:

There's a guy at work who will have meetings just to waste time and look busy (I am aware this is not a unique trait). He will happily take up a couple of people's time for 45 minutes, ask for help on something that he's trying to troubleshoot, and at the end of the meeting we will all have some sort of perception of consensus on how to make progress. Then we will get an email a couple of days later requesting another meeting to discuss the problem, and stating that [troubleshooting step that we never mentioned] didn't work and how he really needs some more help, all the while pushing back on the recommendations that were made the day before and consensus was reached on.

It's such bizarre behaviour. This guy also seems to love being busy regardless of whether the effort is being spent wisely, while refusing to automate anything. I guess a decent amount of this blame lies with his boss not trying to figure out why touching 45 Intune-managed PCs is a good use of their time vs. just writing, testing and deploying a script, but I can't personally get into the mindset where I'd opt to repeat boring tasks rather than learning a skill to make the boring task take care of itself.

Had people like this in a few of my college courses. I'm not surprised they make it to the job market.

Heffer
May 1, 2003

Antioch posted:

All "third party" mail was blocked at the bank, which was real entertaining when they started the 365 testing.

At current job, we're pretty good about allowing access. I did get a ticket this morning about not being able to get to a gunshow site. Normally I don't care much what people visit if they give me a good reason and it's not porn, but just having the reason as "I have the right to look at guns" is uh...factually untrue? Canada doesn't have a second amendment, BECKY.

You closed the first ticket?

Looks like you're about to get two tickets to the gun show.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Heffer posted:

Our auditors just made us block Gmail. Still super salty about that.

It's blocked here and it sucks so bad. Google Drive works for done reason? I'd love to be in these meetings where they randomly pick what to drop the hammer on.

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Bigass Moth posted:

It's blocked here and it sucks so bad. Google Drive works for done reason? I'd love to be in these meetings where they randomly pick what to drop the hammer on.

I'm sure it's all very professional and they bring in only the best dart players.

stevewm
May 10, 2005
Recently had to work with a state government agency.

We needed to send them a few minutes worth of video footage. It took a couple of weeks before we where able to.

Their email only accepted up to 5MB attachments. Google Drive, OneDrive, DropBox, Youtube via unlisted video, etc.. where all blocked. Tried a few other random file sharing sites, also blocked.

We over-nighted them a flash drive with the footage... it wouldn't work (I guess they block unknown USB devices?). I was going to make the video into a DVD and mail it, but they said they didn't have a way to play it.

After several weeks their IT decided to unblock Youtube strangely enough.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

stevewm posted:

Recently had to work with a state government agency.

We needed to send them a few minutes worth of video footage. It took a couple of weeks before we where able to.

Their email only accepted up to 5MB attachments. Google Drive, OneDrive, DropBox, Youtube via unlisted video, etc.. where all blocked. Tried a few other random file sharing sites, also blocked.

We over-nighted them a flash drive with the footage... it wouldn't work (I guess they block unknown USB devices?). I was going to make the video into a DVD and mail it, but they said they didn't have a way to play it.

After several weeks their IT decided to unblock Youtube strangely enough.

I wonder if Plex would have worked.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
or imgur video to gif...
e:
wait that's dumb it's only like 15 seconds.

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.
I wonder if just uploading it to S3 or spinning up your own low-cost web host account for a month would've worked?

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

BeastOfExmoor posted:

I wonder if just uploading it to S3 or spinning up your own low-cost web host account for a month would've worked?

Hell at that point just turn some poo poo desktop into an sftp host with a port forward and give them a link to ftp://10.0.0.1

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Antioch posted:

All "third party" mail was blocked at the bank, which was real entertaining when they started the 365 testing.

At current job, we're pretty good about allowing access. I did get a ticket this morning about not being able to get to a gunshow site. Normally I don't care much what people visit if they give me a good reason and it's not porn, but just having the reason as "I have the right to look at guns" is uh...factually untrue? Canada doesn't have a second amendment, BECKY.

Companies in the US block gun stuff too, just not very thoroughly. Gander Mountain, where most of their money comes from RVs and sporting equipment? Blocked. The gun version of eBay? Not blocked. One public WiFi I used even blocked SA due to being drugs and weapons-related.

Obviously I'm not looking at that stuff on my work PC though, just like I don't go on SA on work computers. I would use my phone data, but this office is a dead spot so I use company WiFi on my phone. Never gotten any heat about it.

TerryLennox
Oct 12, 2009

There is nothing tougher than a tough Mexican, just as there is nothing gentler than a gentle Mexican, nothing more honest than an honest Mexican, and above all nothing sadder than a sad Mexican. -R. Chandler.

bull3964 posted:

Auditors will have a finding, always. They will never go through an environment and come away with "Everything looks great! No changes needed."

Which is why I hate auditors with the burning rage of a thousand suns. It's even worse when they don't know what they want but they sure do want it. Yesterday.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


I’m extremely lucky I’m not American so I don’t have to deal with our government clients so I can run my laptop how I want it. I don’t even vpn half the time. The fed guys are so locked down it sucks.

Plus we use gmail so no way in hell would we block it.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

jaegerx posted:

I’m extremely lucky I’m not American so I don’t have to deal with our government clients so I can run my laptop how I want it. I don’t even vpn half the time. The fed guys are so locked down it sucks.

Plus we use gmail so no way in hell would we block it.

gently caress everything about gov cloud.

I can't touch it but I don't get to forget it exists

5er
Jun 1, 2000

Qapla' to a true warrior! :patriot:

CLAM DOWN posted:

We block Gmail etc but we're public sector with strict PII regulations.

My prior job used gmail's corporate poo poo to take over for MS Exchange. I would've rather had Exchange and a banned gmail situation.

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!

stevewm posted:

After several weeks their IT decided to unblock Youtube strangely enough.

YouTube is the only out of those options where no executable data could actually be downloaded. Probably one of those jobs where you can cruise as long as no security breaches or you're fired.

siggy2021
Mar 8, 2010
Today is my last day as the general IT bitch at a poo poo family run business.. I'm starting a role as a Security Consultant at a small place. Next week. It's a completely different environment. The new boss called me this morning to wish me good luck on my last day, give me some updates on what is going to be going on when I start (wow, communication, bit something I'm used to!), and threw out that when I finish the OSCP, which I'm partway through the labs for, they'll give me a $5k salary bump. I had to fight tooth and nail for my last raise here, and that was after getting 4 relevant certs over two years.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Congrats! That all sounds really fantastic. I'm sure the change will take some getting used to, but enjoy it and I hope you learn a lot!

Check out this thread if you haven't already - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750534

Internet Explorer fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Nov 8, 2019

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Man that op is old

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else
drat that thread has existed for a hot minute.

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.
I decided to ask some Twitter IT people about more of a specialization for the things I enjoy (AD, Powershell, Server work, Administration) and a couple pointed out Identity Management. It does sound like my jam but it's so broad, I wouldn't even know where to start or even what I'd look for in an entry level engineer position. Any recommendations other than know Server, AD, Powershell, what SAML is, some general ideas about certificates?

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Identity management cool and good and interesting but it feels like you have to be working for an enterprise above a certain size to have it be taken seriously.

Your list is a good start, but you should probably start looking at what services like okta and azuread do and why they are different. ADFS (or federation in general), Kerberos tickets, and tls are things you should probably know the basics of.

Be able to talk about mfa, and maybe learn the saml auth flow and be able to talk about why it works.

I’m rambling a bit here, and some of that stuff may not be relevant at your skill level. I’m on my way to the airport and my brain is a bit mushy. I’ll try to write some more coherent words after I get home.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003
This dumb mother fucker synced his personal dropbox to our onprem Owncloud. In the process of loving up all of his company files he managed to delete about 16gb of stuff and upload almost 200gb of movies and cracked installers.

Now he's giving my helpdesk guy poo poo about the restore of his data taking so long, and it's not going to the right place, and why can't we just fix it right for him this is a production issue none of us can work.

Buddy, your problems are not my problems. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I was going to let the obviously illegal nonsense slide and just delete it from our servers but now his boss is getting an email about "Massive and Systemic Policy Violations".

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Antioch posted:

This dumb mother fucker synced his personal dropbox to our onprem Owncloud. In the process of loving up all of his company files he managed to delete about 16gb of stuff and upload almost 200gb of movies and cracked installers.

Now he's giving my helpdesk guy poo poo about the restore of his data taking so long, and it's not going to the right place, and why can't we just fix it right for him this is a production issue none of us can work.

Buddy, your problems are not my problems. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I was going to let the obviously illegal nonsense slide and just delete it from our servers but now his boss is getting an email about "Massive and Systemic Policy Violations".

One time a salesperson got their e-mail blacklisted twice in a week because he sent an e-mail to 250+ people instead of using the mass-mailing tools he has access to. The first time I helped, the second time when his manager complained that I wasn't doing enough to get him back up and running I just said that I would gladly report the dude to ITSec if he would prefer that.

siggy2021
Mar 8, 2010

Internet Explorer posted:

Congrats! That all sounds really fantastic. I'm sure the change will take some getting used to, but enjoy it and I hope you learn a lot!

Check out this thread if you haven't already - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750534

Thanks! I still don't feel like I really deserve it. It kind of just fell into my lap from someone I've done some ctfs and security side just for fun projects with referring me. I have 0 IT consulting experience and no real world pen testing experience (tons of lab experience, though), so it's all a little terrifying, but everyone has to start somewhere I guess. I also keep getting told about how excited they are to bring me on board and they are all very aware of what I just mentioned, so I should probably just not worry about it. Imposter syndrome yadda yadda.

Give me a couple of months and I'm sure I'll be fine. Or I'll flounder horrifically but I got to put some good poo poo on my resume and can probably find a gig in networking.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



My last day at my lovely call center job and I arrive to donuts and a bottle of expensive whiskey with everyone saying how much they'll miss me, and (unrelated) pizza for lunch. And most of what I have to do today is just cleaning up my old cases so not too many get dumped on the few people still here.

And on Sunday I'm going on a date with one of my former co-workers who I've suspected had a thing for me for a few months now, but neither of us acted on that because office romances are a terrible idea. Everything's coming up Eargesplitten.

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.

The Fool posted:

Identity management cool and good and interesting but it feels like you have to be working for an enterprise above a certain size to have it be taken seriously.

Your list is a good start, but you should probably start looking at what services like okta and azuread do and why they are different. ADFS (or federation in general), Kerberos tickets, and tls are things you should probably know the basics of.

Be able to talk about mfa, and maybe learn the saml auth flow and be able to talk about why it works.

I’m rambling a bit here, and some of that stuff may not be relevant at your skill level. I’m on my way to the airport and my brain is a bit mushy. I’ll try to write some more coherent words after I get home.

Yeah, right now, my big problem is I'm working for a sub 300 person financial place and stuff like ADFS and SAML and MFA are things I can learn about but not use in practice in a way. I use SAML and MFA on a user level but it's not something I can easily put into practice in a lab. Right now, I'm watching videos on certificates and poking around on SAML and such but it's the real practice I need to get good.

I do wonder if a good "gateway" would be finding an Azure admin position?

22 Eargesplitten posted:

My last day at my lovely call center job and I arrive to donuts and a bottle of expensive whiskey with everyone saying how much they'll miss me, and (unrelated) pizza for lunch. And most of what I have to do today is just cleaning up my old cases so not too many get dumped on the few people still here.

And on Sunday I'm going on a date with one of my former co-workers who I've suspected had a thing for me for a few months now, but neither of us acted on that because office romances are a terrible idea. Everything's coming up Eargesplitten.

As a former call center jockey, congratulations for getting out!

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

22 Eargesplitten posted:

My last day at my lovely call center job and I arrive to donuts and a bottle of expensive whiskey with everyone saying how much they'll miss me, and (unrelated) pizza for lunch. And most of what I have to do today is just cleaning up my old cases so not too many get dumped on the few people still here.

And on Sunday I'm going on a date with one of my former co-workers who I've suspected had a thing for me for a few months now, but neither of us acted on that because office romances are a terrible idea. Everything's coming up Eargesplitten.

Hell yeah, that's the good stuff.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Antioch posted:

This dumb mother fucker synced his personal dropbox to our onprem Owncloud. In the process of loving up all of his company files he managed to delete about 16gb of stuff and upload almost 200gb of movies and cracked installers.

Now he's giving my helpdesk guy poo poo about the restore of his data taking so long, and it's not going to the right place, and why can't we just fix it right for him this is a production issue none of us can work.

Buddy, your problems are not my problems. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I was going to let the obviously illegal nonsense slide and just delete it from our servers but now his boss is getting an email about "Massive and Systemic Policy Violations".

I've never understood people who double down on a massive fuckup by giving the guy(s) who is (are) trying to fix your poo poo a hard time. Intimidation and bluster make work with you in Sales or whatever, fuckwit, but tech guys will gently caress your life up, AND remember you.

terrenblade
Oct 29, 2012

22 Eargesplitten posted:

My last day at my lovely call center job and I arrive to donuts and a bottle of expensive whiskey with everyone saying how much they'll miss me, and (unrelated) pizza for lunch. And most of what I have to do today is just cleaning up my old cases so not too many get dumped on the few people still here.

And on Sunday I'm going on a date with one of my former co-workers who I've suspected had a thing for me for a few months now, but neither of us acted on that because office romances are a terrible idea. Everything's coming up Eargesplitten.

:yotj:
Congratulations.

5er
Jun 1, 2000

Qapla' to a true warrior! :patriot:

22 Eargesplitten posted:

My last day at my lovely call center job and I arrive to donuts and a bottle of expensive whiskey with everyone saying how much they'll miss me, and (unrelated) pizza for lunch. And most of what I have to do today is just cleaning up my old cases so not too many get dumped on the few people still here.

And on Sunday I'm going on a date with one of my former co-workers who I've suspected had a thing for me for a few months now, but neither of us acted on that because office romances are a terrible idea. Everything's coming up Eargesplitten.

On my last call center day, I was there for a meeting involving some big office policy changes. There were some NEW RULES that not only covered the office floor, but also apparently covered the parking lot & smoking area too. All cussing was getting outright forbidden. Everywhere. Our call center did not actually have a problem with background vulgarity getting overheard on calls, or agents slipping up while on calls and using words they shouldn't. It was all because of the lovely young-earth-creationist fundamentalist gently caress that had been hired a year ago, just constantly bitching to corporate HR (since our on-site HR representative at any given time was either fired, or had a note on their door with an email they could be reached at) at conversational language he disapproved of. As this rule was being explained out by our supervisor, of course the fundie was smugly sitting back in his chair, arms crossed and grinning, clearly having himself a good gloat, which is a very Christian thing to do while the rest of the people there groaned with irritation.
There was another rule, our sup announced. The groaning abated, and fundie looked caught off guard too, a little. Along with vulgarity, all politics ~..*and religious topics*...~ were also forbidden. Fundie got pop-eyed and sat upright, and the rest of the room had their turn at sitting back and chuckling smugly.

I could've cussed at the end of the meeting when I was given a 5 minute venue to say good-bye and well-wish, but I didn't. I used my 5 for what it was meant for, and asked them all to say 'I told you so' to themselves on my behalf when they lay off the whole office in a year. At that point, corporate execs were telling everyone that our particular office was indispensable to the corporate model, and would be with the company until the company itself ended.

I left the office at least, walking backwards with two middle fingers hoisted. I promised that was how I was going to go, for years though. I had to keep my word.

Further, my department gutted and laid off nearly entirely, within 9 months from the point I left.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003

Darchangel posted:

I've never understood people who double down on a massive fuckup by giving the guy(s) who is (are) trying to fix your poo poo a hard time. Intimidation and bluster make work with you in Sales or whatever, fuckwit, but tech guys will gently caress your life up, AND remember you.

In a rare moment of cosmic justice, buddy that decided to sync all his dumb bullshit has been walked out. Praise Satan.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Antioch posted:

In a rare moment of cosmic justice, buddy that decided to sync all his dumb bullshit has been walked out. Praise Satan.

I've been a little stressed today and this made me smile.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Antioch posted:

In a rare moment of cosmic justice, buddy that decided to sync all his dumb bullshit has been walked out. Praise Satan.

Praise

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Having kinda a rough day here. I stored a bunch of videos and software on our company cloud storage so that I could have a backup, and they configured it in such a way that my upload affected other files and made them unavailable. Then the administrator got pissy because I wanted my files back, and management took his side and let me go. Ridiculous way to start the weekend.

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LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Having kinda a rough day here. I stored a bunch of videos and software on our company cloud storage so that I could have a backup, and they configured it in such a way that my upload affected other files and made them unavailable. Then the administrator got pissy because I wanted my files back, and management took his side and let me go. Ridiculous way to start the weekend.

Makes sense it’d be a goon.

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