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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

GOOCHY posted:

For all you guys who are going through merger growing pains - bail out, please, for your own sanity. Update your resume and move on. You'll be so much happier, I promise. I went through what you're all describing back in '06 and stuck around for far, far too long. It's not worth the frustration and pains of mixing company cultures. It really isn't. Start fresh.

That's the exact thing I needed to hear and I'm gonna get my rear end in gear too. Not so much a merger here, but I work at a small company and our newest management hires come from corporate backgrounds and they've killed pretty much every little perk that attracted me to my current job (casual dress, flexibility to work from home). You're right, it's not worth the frustration.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Been on the lookout for professional services/consulting type gigs, and found out about a company moving their HQ from San Diego to Dallas. I've got my in person interview coming up and the HR contact told me expect salary of 35-40k for a job that has 75%+ travel.

I'm having a hard time believing that's a serious answer, so I will see what the actual consultants have to say. My initial reaction is that is way, WAY low, even for Texas. I am going through culture shock at my current job, but that salary range has to be well below market rate.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Tab8715 posted:

Consulting for what? Printer installation or some Linux HA Application?

It does sound low but we need more details...

Good point, I'll paste the job posting.

quote:

This position reports to the Consulting Services Team Lead and is responsible for the implementation of Enterprise Management Software for recreation based organizations. The Associate Project Consultant is responsible for all tasks associated with the delivery of multiple simultaneous projects. The position works directly with our clients both remotely and on site throughout North America.

Job description:

Participate in pre project planning

Conduct functional planning sessions with project stakeholders

Implement software solutions with customers that satisfy their business needs

Coordinate all day-to-day details for implementations

Train end-users and administrators to use our software effectively

Work with:

Project Manager to execute implementations according to plan

Technical Analysts to coordinate functional requirements with deliverables

Support Analysts to facilitate handoff as project closes

Skills & Requirements
Qualifications:

Undergraduate degree or technical diploma

Business experience, preferably in one or more of these sectors: Government, Parks and Recreation, Education, Not for Profit, Fitness, Church, and/or other community agencies

Customer-facing implementation experience is highly preferred and a definite asset

Technical aptitude and interest • Project management experience is an advantage

Attributes:

Polished and professional approach

Excellent and demonstrable problem solving skills

Strong interpersonal skills and an ability to quickly establish solid relationships with clients

Strong presentation and report-writing skills

Quick to adapt to new environments and able to grasp complex business processes

Ability to manage expectations, facilitation skills and a knack for turning conflict into positive outcomes

Strong entrepreneurial spirit and a willingness to do what it takes to get the job done

A keen eye for opportunity, both for our company and our customers

Willing and able to travel up to 75% throughout North America

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Thanks everyone, glad to know I'm not being unreasonable.

Dark Helmut posted:

The conspicuous lack of "x years of experience required" definitely seems to point to them looking for people right out of school (or close) or people in transition that might be a bit more desperate. If they are saying $35-40, that's low for pretty much any civilized market. Not sure of your experience level, but if you are in the earlier stages of your career it might be a good opp.

If you're more seasoned and have a much higher number, maybe you can get close to where you need by interviewing well.

That's a big point that I'm going to clarify as well when I do go in face to face tomorrow.

I've got about a year of applicable experience (I am a consultant for a SaaS company right now) and otherwise 1.5 years in helpdesk/dba type stuff. Starting rate for where I am now varied between 50k-65k, and that's why I was initially surprised.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Update on what happened since I posted this.

Got an offer for 40k and they're unwilling to push any higher. Recruiter even mentioned being aware that their salary is below market rate, so how are they expecting to fill these positions :psyduck: Gut tells me to move onward and try somewhere else.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

MrMoo posted:

Welcome to the domain of "Solutions Architect", it is a very difficult position requiring a lot of knowledge to perform well and you are generally fighting against everyone to do anything whilst also layered in bureaucracy and meetings. It is the jack-of-all-trades master-of-none show piece position.

NippleFloss posted:

Pre-Sales: Meet with the customer, discuss their needs and requirements, propose hardware/software purchases that will help them meet those requirements, come up with plan to implement the stuff you've just sold.

Post-Sales: Actually implement that plan.

So I'm a post sales consultant right now and my company hired a bunch of "solution architects" who really have made my life far more miserable instead of helping me out.

What's a solution architect supposed to be responsible for? I mean other than having an absurdly full calendar, and when I do get them in a meeting, they fumble and stumble in front of the client.

Also NippleFloss, I'd like to hear more about NetApp, mind if I contact you over pm?

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

CLAM DOWN posted:

Jesus, how are you guys so nonchalant about this?! How can you handle living/working somewhere that treats you like this, with no basic labour laws?

I am all :stare: right now.

Sadly that's just how it works in the US and progress is awful as far as getting people's mindset to change. We don't wanna be like those other first world countries! We're 'merica!!

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

TWBalls posted:

This is exactly the reason I want one. That and (if it's possible) loading it up with music so that I can work out and listen to music without having my big-rear end phone with me.

Except that new watch requires having an iPhone :yayclod:

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Zero VGS posted:

You are viewing a redacted text file. If you dig around quote a bit you can supposedly find the file with all passwords. I found it somewhere but to download it I would have had to confirm over SMS on some Russian download site, yeah nope.

If you PM me I can give you the version I found that shows the first letter of each password, I guess that could work as a parlor trick to impress your friends.

Keep in mind, these aren't really Gmail passwords, they are just previously hacked sites where people submitted their Gmail to sign up. Maybe just 1 or 2 % of those passwords work on Gmail because those people use the same password for everything. Five million ain't that much in the grand scheme of Gmail I guess because neither me nor anyone I know was in the list.

There was a way to get a torrent that has the file with passwords included, you had to use some google cache trickery. FWIW I took a look at it and the one that came up for my gmail was a super old password.

Based on the grep stuff that I saw, I'm guessing mine got pulled from when HoN/S2 got hacked. An ex had hers in there too and we both played HoN.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

CLAM DOWN posted:

I never said that, I'm not sure where you got that from. Are you familiar with labour and job-related human rights laws in other countries? That's what I'm referring to.

Things aren't as bad as they sound in the US, but yes, Europe generally does better at protecting their workers as well as having transparency for these sorts of things.

I'm probably not the only one with the mindset that you're dealing with a company, it has no soul/feelings/remorse and certainly doesn't give a gently caress about what's best for you or doing the "right thing".

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

22 Eargesplitten posted:

No, I don't know anyone in the area. I'll consider getting a PO box or commercial mailbox. Is it this hard for everyone to move states, or do most IT people doing it have enough time/skills under their belt to be getting calls from recruiters?

Trying to get in touch with HR personally and trying to convince them is a bad move because they don't care, right?

I've only had deep conversations about relocation once an offer is actually on the table. To give a personal anecdote, I focus on performing well on the face to face interview; impress the hiring manager/potential colleagues to the point where they'd tell HR "hey, hire this person and do whatever it takes." Then that's when you can say "hey I need help with relocation expenses"

Or well, just take the job and cover the cost of moving on your own.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Turtlicious posted:

E: Would you want like the actual formatted gdoc, or just a quick summary?

Simple way: take a screenshot, remove sensitive info (name, contact info, names of employers/titles), upload to imgur.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

KillHour posted:

So... What would you do?

Honestly the behavior's a massive red flag of potentially crazier issues down the line. Unless ... are you ok with that? Personally I'd reconsider and pick back up on the hunt.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Dark Helmut posted:

This Moscow Mule craze? (Is this a national thing or just my area?) Not hopping on that bandwagon...

Copper mugs and mason jar drinks in general are hip, you know "classic" artisan craft cocktail mixology :rolleyes:

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

I wish Club Mate were easier to find in the US cuz I'd drink the hell out of a gin and tonic variation made with that stuff.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

I'm actively hunting in Portland and Dark Helmut is correct. Their job market is definitely skewed towards people who already live there. It's a case where moving there without a job is a horrible idea considering the insane demand for housing as well. I know it's possible to get hired via a Skype interview though it's definitely not the norm.

My backup plan is staying in Dallas which isn't a completely terrible consolation.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

So this is probably a silly question but how do you apply for a job and get an office? That seems like such a petty declaration, but I work from home in my perfectly laid out home office where everything is exactly how I want it. I don't need to interview for a new job if they're going to show me to my cubicle, that is a non starter. But how do you even bring it up? "Hi I'd be happy to work for you if there's an office involved" - I've got no idea.

I'd count on a cubicle or "open office" type thing for vast majority of positions. The only place I'd worked where everyone was guaranteed an office regardless of tenure was the government.

And yeah, wait until a face to face interview to bring that up.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Last place I worked had an open office format.

I went down to my colleague's floor since she offered me some leftover birthday cake and that's also where the salespeople sit.

They ... have a gong and use it whenever someone closes :downsgun:

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

bull3964 posted:

Honestly, there needs to be a national initiative to encourage WFH as much as possible. Give tax breaks or something to companies. It would have a huge environmental impact removing a chunk of cars from the road daily. Even if it was only one day a week.

Funny how you mention incentives.

Last place I worked (remember that gong story?) got some incentive from the city to have employees physically working in their offices. That's right... despite being a SAAS company, they wanted more butt in seat time rather than employees working remotely :shepicide:

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

22 Eargesplitten posted:

I got contacted by a company that's really insistent on knowing what I want to make. I can't just turn them down because I'm unemployed. It's a W2 contract without benefits, including no health insurance. How much should I be jacking my asking price up over a normal position to make up for that?

It really puts a bad taste in my mouth when they immediately ask what I want to make before we even discuss the position, so I really don't care too much if they walk away.

For no benefits, I'd raise up pretty high. Probably 40 to 50%, maybe more.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Tab8715 posted:

Why does every recruiter expect I put in my two-weeks notice prior to the background check completing?

I don't have a criminal background but I'd prefer things to be set in stone before I change ships.

Wow, yeah definitely gotta protect yourself as well. No resignation until you've got an offer in writing.

What's the thread's take on 50k salary in Austin? That sounds below market to me. Bummed considering it's totally one of the best tech companies in the area :(

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

lampey posted:

What are the job responsibilities and other benefits?

Technical support position facing external clients. Apart from a degree, the requirements on experience aren't quantified and honestly sound vague. I got the vibe it's greater than entry level but possibly below mid level, but gut feeling is that 50k is a lowball number.

quote:

Experience in a customer support role or with a consumer-facing web company is strongly preferred

Working knowledge of HTML, JSON, CSS and a query language is strongly preferred.

Experience with a ticket tracking system and/or CRM is preferred (e.g. JIRA, Zendesk, Salesforce, etc.)

Experience with development tools and debugging is preferred

Typical web company benefits: uncapped pto, flexible hours, casual environment, gym, full kitchen, catered meals.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Tab8715 posted:

Is that a complete list of job duties? If so, you could maybe squeeze another $5k/y but if it comes with good-to-great benefits then that's decent enough.

It's at Indeed HQ, here's more of the relevant text:

quote:

As an Apply Operations Support Specialist, you will support our mobile apply product.

Indeed mobile apply helps users submit job applications from their mobile devices, with the goal of providing a quick, easy and accessible application experience. In addition to maintaining our existing mobile apply implementations, you will help enable new implementations and provide technical support to jobseekers. You will also work with our technical team to escalate issues, report bugs, and define requirements for new features. This is a rapidly growing platform with many opportunities for collaboration, problem solving and creative thinking.

Responsibilities:
Monitor current mobile apply implementations and troubleshoot technical issues

Resolve mobile apply help requests from jobseekers

Use existing tools and resources to turn on and support new implementations

Help shape processes and tools by raising issues and opportunities

Work with a fast-paced team to handle a high volume of requests in a timely manner

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Tab8715 posted:

Indeed's HQ is in Austin? Not a big surprise, you could try asking for another $5k but I'd jump even if they said no - Indeed's a interesting/successful company.

My question boils down to market salary in exchange for stellar benefits/culture. Not having to pay for insurance premiums, meals, and a gym membership could make up the difference.

Would it make sense to think about the recognition? My initial reaction is that doing an awesome thing at a so-so company beats doing something decent at an "amazing" company.

I'll still probe deeper because I figure why not. Also curious to get a good handle on what doors could be opened, like what's the potential upward mobility or lateral internal movement.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Turtlicious posted:

On the advice of this thread, and my girlfriend, and my landlord, I went to see my boss. Apparently he was testing my response time in-case of an emergency.

I pointed out that if he had said it was an Emergency, I probably would have been less leisurely, which got a reply of "Excellent, just what I wanted to hear."

gently caress.

Still, got comped OT for 3 hours and all I did was show up for 15 -> 20 minutes.

I have no idea what is going on in my professional life.

I'd get a resume updated and start hunting if I were you :stare:

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Get Global Entry and may as well see if your company will cover the fee. I can't go back to flying without precheck.

There's also a frequent/business travel thread:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3516448

Think this was the most recent "I accepted a job requiring frequent travel, please help" inquiry, so tons more tips here:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3516448&pagenumber=117&perpage=40#post453839494

air- fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Mar 6, 2016

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

AlternateAccount posted:

Probably having an interview in the next week or two. Kinda stumped, what's the current answer for the WHY ARE YOU LOOKING TO LEAVE question if the actual answer is, "I am way under the pay/responsibility curve and they boned me on raise/bonus even though my review was stellar."

Lack of challenge/opportunity/upward mobility in your current position is a valid reason.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

CLAM DOWN posted:

Nothing makes me want to use a recruiter less, than the knowledge that they think they can modify my resume or write their own cover letter for me.

Some recruiters give appropriate feedback (like Dark Helmut who told me about adding a summary header, though even that is a very mixed bag honestly), though I've also had my share of downright scary experiences.

I walked into one interview and the recruiter met me at the elevator to walk me into the office. He hands me a folder with extra copies of my resume "just in case" and when I caught a glance, it was just my resume but with this horrific header including a tacky logo of the recruiting company :gonk: So glad I didn't have to use those.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

CLAM DOWN posted:

I don't think you're understanding the problem here. Working with a recruiter to perfect a CV = good. A recruiter independently modifying a CV without my permission or awareness = bad.

Beat me to it. I have no problems with being told my contact details will be edited from my resume, and I get why that's important for the recruiter as an agent. In his defense, Helmut and good recruiters communicate that practice ahead of time, but that specific incident where my resume looked like children's coloring book bothered me.

Plus, good ones will tell you to add things like "examples of when you used xyz technology" or similar phrases where they can see room for tailoring a resume better for a specific positing.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Turtlicious posted:

Besides the money will make the crazy ok.

If it's crazy money like that dude working for the neurotic Israelis, maybe. The offer thrown at you sounds more reasonable given what you're dealing with, except I wouldn't put up with such a dysfunctional organization. Also yeah, where are you located?

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Sep 24, 2007

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Turtlicious posted:

East Bay San Fran.

:staredog:

I was expecting midwest or the south, bless your heart.

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Sep 24, 2007

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Turtlicious posted:

ok Strawpoll, how many thinks that 31k is a good offer?

http://strawpoll.me/7227707

You're missing the option to get out and find a job that isn't completely giving it to you in the rear end.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Turtlicious posted:

I can't quit, I can only be fired from what I understand.

Last time I checked, California is an employment at will state and you should read up on what that means.

We're all on your side here and we all want to help.

e: vvv :five:

air- fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Mar 30, 2016

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

First IT gig for me was in DC, helpdesk with zero experience or certs. 55k with government benefits, which was a major part of how I was able to justify it at the time.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

East bay is in norcal :eng101:

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Got off the phone with a recruiter this morning and she eventually admitted having an extremely hard time filling this implementation engineer opening:

100% travel, all expenses reimbursed, locations are major cities ...

... with the expectation of regularly working "urgent after hour escalations" involving system deployments at 50k without bonuses/OT.

Plus all the free indoor skydiving you can handle :yayclod:

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11331014/microsoft-windows-linux-ubuntu-bash

:eyepop:

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

How do you have the money for a lawyer at that kind of salary?

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

The only people I've heard say San Fran were all from outside the US.

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Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

I've seen various posts here about CDW reps, but can anyone here chime in about working for them? I'm getting the ball rolling on the application process for positions like these and just curious on what to expect. I keep noticing lower than average starting salary on Glassdoor :ohdear:

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