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I mean people who are meant to take hits on the front lines. Wouldn't Ken and Nick's deathcounts would put them in the squishy section? 
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But Ken and Nick are both front liners. They can't do anything from the back row at all.
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This is Etrian Odyssey. The tankiest classes are lucky if they can take like 4 hits. Unless they're Hoplite or something, I guess.
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This is EO2, the best strategy is to kill everything before they can kill you. Defensive parties aren't really as effective as offensive parties in this game. The most popular party to run in this game is R/D/W, G/H, and only the War Magus can be considered not squishy in that party. I wouldn't recommend going with a squishy party in a different EO game, but in this game you can get away with it.
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Dr. Fetus posted:This is EO2, the best strategy is to kill everything before they can kill you. Defensive parties aren't really as effective as offensive parties in this game. The most popular party to run in this game is R/D/W, G/H, and only the War Magus can be considered not squishy in that party. I wouldn't recommend going with a squishy party in a different EO game, but in this game you can get away with it. It's easy to make a super aggressive party in EO4 because like half of the damage frontliners are pretty drat tanky and still do incredible amounts of damage. Also EO2U seems to be like this game but magnified in terms of "murder the enemies as fast as possible".
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psudonym55 posted:O god I know that feeling. Thanks to this thread I now own Etrian Odyssey 3,4 and Untold. Welp, turns out I didn't get EOIV, actually. I just got a message from the seller on eBay that I apparently bought a game which they didn't actually have, so they're sending me my money back. Just took them the entire week to notice this! 
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Libluini posted:Welp, turns out I didn't get EOIV, actually. I just got a message from the seller on eBay that I apparently bought a game which they didn't actually have, so they're sending me my money back. Just took them the entire week to notice this! Use the eShop. Atlus holds sales all the time on there, and both EO4 and EOU go on sale for $15 during those times. Pauline's hitting about as hard as Ken right now. A single shot from 2-Bolt does the same amount of damage as a single Midareba slash. Apollon on the other hand does a ridiculous amount of damage. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:Use the eShop. Atlus holds sales all the time on their, and both EO4 and EOU go on sale for $15 during those times. Well, that certainly won't be lasting very long... I still can't believe just how stupid the next boss's normal drop item is.
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Dr. Fetus posted:Use the eShop. Atlus holds sales all the time on their, and both EO4 and EOU go on sale for $15 during those times. I don't live in North America, so sadly no discount for me. Also too late, I already got the money back and bought it again on Amazon. About 70$ for a EU-compatible game (the 3DS has region lock) + faster shipment so I can get the game before the weekend. Waiting a second week for the game would be a bit much, I decided.
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The question is, did you buy a new 3DS XL, or a New 3DS XL? (This happened to my friend.)
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Rangpur posted:The question is, did you buy a new 3DS XL, or a New 3DS XL? (This happened to my friend.) The super special New New NEW 3DS XL was 50 bucks more, so nope. Only an old new 3DS XL for me.
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I've never been able to justify paying for more than standard shipping from Amazon. Sure it means when I order from Amazon.com it takes at least a month for stuff to get here but it's far better than having to sell a kidney to have it delivered within a week.
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psudonym55 posted:I've never been able to justify paying for more than standard shipping from Amazon. Sure it means when I order from Amazon.com it takes at least a month for stuff to get here but it's far better than having to sell a kidney to have it delivered within a week. It's even dumber in my case, since stuff I order with standard shipping generally takes 1-2 days at most. But I got burned this week already and the game is really rare here, so I bit the bullet. Hopefully the shucklefucks selling me EOIV for Amazon aren't having random accounting errors, too. (Amazon doesn't have the game, but some random gaming shop sells it for them.) That was just dumb. (The shop on eBay didn't even tell me about their accounting error until I asked. They'd spend the last four days frantically trying to get the game, hoping I wouldn't notice the unusually long shipping time.)
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Libluini posted:The super special New New NEW 3DS XL was 50 bucks more, so nope. Only an old new 3DS XL for me. I actually got a surprising amount of use out of Haltshot on this next floor. The way FOEs are placed and how they spawn makes them sort of a pain to deal with. And it is always useful to sneak up behind them.
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Rangpur posted:None of the Etrian games have long enough load times to benefit from it, let alone require it unless they do something insane for EOV so you're in the clear. I think the lesson to take from this is 'never use the word NEW in your product's official name.' You'd think Nintendo would have learned from the New Coke debacle, but nooo... And the WiiU. So many people thought it was just an accessory for the Wii when it first came out. As for the FOEs, I just killed them.  They're not too hard to take down, and the floor's really short compared to the 17 + 18 megafloor.I'm a little curious on people's thoughts on the game so far. What do you think the floating castle looks like? And what's the deal with the bird people?
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I thought the bird people were just bird people, like the Forest Folk. Sometimes a bird is just a bird!
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Dr. Fetus posted:What do you think the floating castle looks like? Really bad
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I accidentally found out how the castle looked myself, so I'll refrain from answering that. The bird people though... I don't know, servants of that Ruler of the Heavens guy that Wilhelm mentioned?
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Dr. Fetus posted:What do you think the floating castle looks like? And what's the deal with the bird people? Greek. They're the King's loyal pets like those flying monkeys in the Wizard of Oz.
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Dr. Fetus posted:I'm a little curious on people's thoughts on the game so far. What do you think the floating castle looks like? And what's the deal with the bird people? Until you mentioned this game having some of the best aesthetics (which I COMPLETELY concur with hot drat)? I couldn't help picturing the horrible samey 4th Stratum from EO3. With less pictorials. Or more  Spoiling based on vague series spoiling: Based on EO story structure bird people would be an offshoot branch of humanity that stayed in the castle while our branch of humanity descended and then started adventuring. If it isn't this I will be SHOCKED. Old Greg fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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I've just been assuming the floating castle is just a stereotypical grey stone medieval castle, but floating.
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mycot posted:I've just been assuming the floating castle is just a stereotypical grey stone medieval castle, but floating. This is similar to my thoughts years ago when I started EOII. I was pleasantly surprised, to say the least. As someone who played the game well into the post game, I can assure you, this assumption is hilariously wrong. Also as someone who actually knows how the castle looks, I sadly can't speculate on the answers to Dr. Fetus' questions. Let's just leave it at: No, it isn't a stereotypical castle.
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Dr. Fetus posted:As for the FOEs, I just killed them. The bird people are all clearly wearing masks, and using cleverly concealed jetpacks to fly. They worship & serve the Ruler of the Heavens because he gave them these bitchin' rad jetpacks to lord it over all those groundpounding losers. In keeping with the game's seasonal theme, it the floating castle will represent Spwingter, the 5th season the East coast's been trapped in for months now. Make up your mind, dammit! Rangpur fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Old Greg posted:Spoiling based on vague series spoiling: Based on EO story structure bird people would be an offshoot branch of humanity that stayed in the castle while our branch of humanity descended and then started adventuring. If it isn't this I will be SHOCKED. That's pretty much exactly my train of thought regarding the bird people. I will be pleasantly surprised if this game pulls something different, just because I think it'd be boring to pull the same twist.
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I bet the floating castle is a techno-magic fusion kinda thing like the one in Crystalis. The winged dudes are robots who maintain the inner workings.
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Rangpur posted:I don't gently caress around with half-measures when it comes to enemies that group-cast petrify. (Unless I had them confused with something later, in which case oh well, dead is dead.) It's single target skill. Those FOEs aren't a threat at all. Update coming soonish. Maybe later today or tomorrow.
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Dr. Fetus posted:I'm a little curious on people's thoughts on the game so far. What do you think the floating castle looks like? And what's the deal with the bird people? Well I have beaten the first game, not the postgame though. Soooooo maybe A freakin' space station or modern military fortress? Guessing the bird people feed dead people to this Overlord fellow, in the same way the first game was a giant Temple of Elemental Evil? Those Claret Hollows weren't red because of the soil, right? 
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High in the Sky PC-88 VersionI went on a bit of a farming spree and unlocked a bunch of equipment and items. I also unlocked Medica IIIs, so I went and bought a ton of those.            Now the Volt Gun is needed for that quest, so I buy one. It's a downgrade for Fedot, so I don't buy one for him.   So this is gonna be our party for the rest of the Stratum.  By popular demand, I went and had Pauline equip the postgame bow. She'll be hitting pretty hard until the postgame hits.  PC-88 Version It must have met a gruesome end by a monster's claws... The ghastly sight reminds you of the tale Cass told you at the Stickleback Bar... The adventurer who believed what no one else thought possible, and climbed the Labyrinth... It's certainly possible that these are the remains of that courageous soul. You hesitate, wondering if this is where you should leave the Old Coin that Cass gave you.   : Think this is that gal Cass told us about? : Hmm... but there's so many fallen adventurers here... I doubt- : Just leave the coin somewhere, there's way too many corpses in the Labyrinth. Our chances of finding her are slim.: But- : Yeah, the boss is right. We'll just have to let Cass know that we couldn't find the girl. Or maybe this is her. I dunno.You place the coin next to the corpse and say a silent prayer for its safe passage. But there are so many corpses littering the Labyrinth... There's no way to be certain this is the same adventurer that Cass once knew. You take your leave, as full of doubts as before... PC-88 Version  : Oh, yeh're back... Did yeh find her?: Uh, sort of? We left it on this skeleton that was wearing super heavy armor. Was that her?: Eh...? I'm not so sure about that... She wouldn't wear that kind of armor...: I knew it...: Oh, but don't yeh worry! I mean, what were the odds of yeh finding her, really? Haw haw haw! It's all right... I was a maudlin old fool to make that ridiculous request. Thanks anyways... I do feel a mite better. It's time I got that out of my system. All right, time to deal with the patrons. Oh yeah, and don't forget to take yer reward!: But we didn't-: Don't yeh worry about her... I've got a guild to keep me company!: Really? Which one?: Huh? I mean yeh lot, of course! Keep working hard, all right? It's always good for a laugh. Come back anytime! Haw haw haw! : No! This is not how this should end!PC-88 Version : Uh, Gilbert: You there? You kinda spaced out for a while there.: Oh. My apologies. What happened?: We were talking about the request Cass gave us. You know, the one where he wanted us to leave the coin with that girl? If we can even find her. : Should we just leave it one of these, ugh, skeletons and just tell Cass that we couldn't find her?: NO! I mean, we must be certain that we leave the coin on the right body.: Well I doubt any of these are her. There's too many bodies to search through. I'm sure there will be some sign if we stumble upon the right one. Let's just keep the coin with us for now.: Oh, thank you!: ...The hell are you getting all melodramatic for?You hesitate, realizing that the Labyrinth is littered with such corpses. The last thing you want to do is leave Cass's coin with the wrong corpse... You decide against leaving the Old Coin with any corpse for now. So there's gonna be some spots that you can leave the Old Coin at. Only one of those spots is the correct place. Leaving the coin at the wrong spot won't give you the full reward.  PC-88 Version   : Ow! Pauline, you sure you wanna be up here? The front lines are kind of a rough place, you know.: Yes, they are not a place for the fragile to be. There's room in the back for you.: Hey, as long as I'm not the one taking all the hits, I'm fine with this.: Ugh! Don't worry, I'm fine up here!: If you say so...I placed Pauline on the front lines just so the damage spreads out between 3 people. Survivalists can kind of operate on the front, since they do have slightly more VIT than Ronin, and just a little less than Dark Hunters. I wouldn't recommend doing this, since in normal circumstances they have really terrible damage and the front lines are best saved for an actual damage dealer.   : Hmmhmmhmm! Now we're talking!Pauline's current damage output. Enjoy it while it lasts.    Remember that Diatrimas are weak to Stab attacks. Pauline's damage output is slightly above Ken's. PC-88 Version He barely reacts as you come near, merely glancing in your direction.  : A lot of your kind have been visiting lately. Tell me what you want and make it quick.He may be the one wise in the lore of the Labyrinth's monsters... If you believe him to be the one, you may offer the gun and state your case.  He waits for you to speak, then resumes gathering twigs when you remain silent. : If you have nothing to say, get out of here. I'll never understand your kind.Unable to get any advice, you leave the area.  : Uh, we've got a little gift for you. Here.The man accepts the gift with great interest. : It's a fine gun... It's for me?: Yep.: Well, you know your etiquette... What do you want to know?You ask about the monster while you are in his favor, and if there's any peaceful resolution. : This monster's been rampaging around in the Labyrinth, and we're trying to find a way to calm it down.: Yeah, we're not trying to kill it. All we could find out about it was that its nest was empty. You know what's going on? I think the monster had a kid, but we couldn't find it.: That sounds strange... I don't think it would leave its young's side until it's fully grown. Maybe the child was lost in the forest, or... Well, it'll calm down once you return its child.: That seems pretty obvious. Well, thanks anyway.You thank the man for his help, and decide to return to the Duke's Palace with his advice. Remember this spot for later. You'll have to come back here a few times. : Okay, are you seriously telling me you couldn't figure out why the monster was rampaging in the first place? This monster happens to be very angry, and you find evidence of a missing child. How do you not make the connection!?: I thought that sort of thing was obvious as well. What parent would not overturn every rock in the vicinity in order to find their missing young?: W-we were trapped and we were panicking, okay? We didn't have time to think about that!: ...You know, now that you and that guy mentioned it, it is pretty obvious in hindsight. Sorry, boss.: Whatever, let's just go tell the Grand Duchy about this. PC-88 Version : We found out that the monster had a child that was supposed to be in the nest. But its gone missing. He said that if we return the monster's child to the nest, it should calm down. I can't believe that this is what I have to report to them.: I said I was sorry, boss. : The monster's child should have been in the nest...? I wonder what could have happened... But he was certain that if we return its offspring, it will calm down? I understand. I appreciate Guild Firefly's help. You may collect your reward at the bar. I will continue to expect great things from you.PC-88 Version : Ahhh, yeh're back! I heard from one of the guards that yeh'd finished the quest. They sent yeh to meet some weirdo, eh? He didn't do anything strange to yeh?: Uh, not really. We just talked.: Well, yeh're a pretty strange lot yerselves, so I guess yeh'd get on well with him. Hey!: Heh, you're one to talk to us about being strange. Weirdo.: Eh...? Who are yeh calling a weirdo!? I'm nothing like yeh! What rude children yeh lot are. Take yer reward, weirdos! See yeh weirdos around!  Now that we've finished that quest, this one pops up. : Oi! That's one of the stranger quests I've seen posted... Yeh remember when yeh had to meet the animal expert in the forest? He's the client.: So, what's he want?: I don't know much... He said he wants yeh to see him for more details. “Please, Firefly! Pleeeease save my shoooop...!” That sound like him? Haw haw haw! It's a good thing yeh lot are the ones to do this...: Why's that?: Eh? Well, because I don't even know where he is! Just go wherever you met him last time, I s'pose. Wasn't it on the 18th floor? Well, g'luck!PC-88 Version It stands up from its work of picking up twigs when it notices you approach. : Uh, hi again.: You've returned... Are you here to grant my request?: Indeed! What do you want us to accomplish?You nod, and he starts to fill in the details of the request. : Your kind is strange... My request is not hard. I only want you to retrieve something. You may be glad to hear that I know exactly where it is. But there is a problem...The man frowns after saying this, then slowly continues. : The way there is so narrow that neither myself nor your kind could get through. But I've seen your kind use beasts here. I thought one of them could make it through. Northeast of this floor is a small passage. I want the black mushroom growing at its end. When you have it, deliver it to the man at the bar.His request made, the man stoops again to gather his twigs. You tell him you'll be finished before long, and leave the area. : We shall be swift in our duty! You crouch down to take a look... It doesn't seem that any human could fit through. : I don't think we're getting through this.A beast may be able to pass, but... Once again, we need a solo Beast to get past this.   : Hmph!: Stay safe, Ling. It seems to have been made just for animals to use... You roar in excitement and squeeze into the passage.  You just have to walk down this really long hallway. What captivating map design. You look down to see a black mushroom growing, just as the strange man said. : Hmm? Blech!You sniff the mushroom and leap back at its horrible stench! You don't know what it's used for, but it doesn't seem tasty. You'd rather eat monster meat! Gagging at the smell, you manage to get the mushroom in the bag. You have obtained the item requested by your client! You give a proud roar before leaving the area.   PC-88 Version : Ahhh, welcome back! Hmm... I didn't know beasts were good for that kind of thing.: Heh.: Nice going, Ling!: You guys trained that panda well.: Maybe I should train one to watch the bar or something... Well, yer job's done. Here's yer reward, and thank yer pet beast for me! Thanks a lot!  Increases the party's resistance to all elements. But it's weaker than the specialized mists. It does stack with them, so that's something to keep in mind.  PC-88 Version The Voltking to the south of the 18th floor has been getting in my way a lot, so I decided to take it out.   : Focus!     : So, is it true that you guys fought a dragon!? And won!?: ...Yes. We fought a dragon. And won.: Aw come on, you guys have to tell me the details!: Uhh... Nick and Aliara did most of the work. Nick hit Dragon with his... whip, and Aliara used her curses on him.: Do I even wanna know what Nick did?: No.    : Oh yeah, that Dragon and I had a goooooood time!: ...Oh god, you didn't- I knew it was a mistake to let you borrow those comics!: You are responsible for teaching him those grotesque techniques?: Hey, I didn't know he was gonna learn how to stroke-: Stop speaking before I remember the details!   Keep in mind that Voltkings have a resistance to Stab attacks. Pauline's postgame bow lets her deal respectable damage. : Oh, you learned a new whip technique? How do you do this one?: Well, you just-  : Gah...: I'm not even gonna say it.: Uh, I guess tell me some other time.: Spared by the beast's fury.  And Apollon's damage gets absolutely ridiculous with that bow.  : Oh come on! A bit of a damage comparison between our classes. PC-88 Version Okay, no more goofing around. Let's do the 19th floor. PC-88 Version  Glowbird HP: 337 AT: 38 DF: 37 Exp: 2730 Skills: Corrode Item Drops: -Drop 1: Gold Quill - 1 needed for Round Helm. 2 needed for Body Aspis. 3 needed for Wing Tunic. 1 needed for the quest The wise King. --Glowbird feathers that shine brighter than gold. -Drop 2: Gold Claw - 1 needed for Juzumaru (Katana.) 10 needed for Dark Saker. --Sharp claws that easily rip through flesh. -Drop 3: Death Stem - See 3rd Stratum Chop info. Description: A bird whose sharp beak and high dexterity must be met by a warrior of equal speed. Weakness: Stab (150%) Resistance: N/A Glowbirds are monsters that can make some encounters very deadly. They have very high AGI and LUC (58 and 54) so they're fast and hard to hit. They don't hit too hard, but Corrode lowers your entire party's defenses, which enables enemies that already hit pretty hard to hit even harder.   : My arrow flies!    : Uh, I think I got them.:   Oh yeah, Ken? Absolute monster now. He dishes out fantastic single target and AOE damage. Aliara lost her role of mob clearer, but Ken took up that mantle. Keep in mind that this is without buffs. PC-88 Version : Oh hey, there's a bird over there! : Aw, it flew off.: Huh. What was that about?: No clue, but be on your guard. : Uh, what's this thing?: It appears to be a platform of some sort.: Let's take it for a ride!: No wait, I'm not ready! Let me off! : Ken. Dude, it's over. You can get off of me now.: Huh? Oh. S-sorry,: Huh. It's just like the lily pads.So the gimmick of this floor is that there's a bunch of islands, and these gold platforms will take you to another one. They all travel in a straight line, and some of them are one way trips. Yeah, this is pretty much EO1's lily pad floor, only under a different aesthetic. PC-88 Version This is when you can properly fight the Wrathbuds by themselves. : AAAHHH! Giant flower! Get it away from me!  : Uhh...: Long story.: Dude, it's been like a really long time since then. You're still scared of flowers?: The teeth! Oh god the teeth!   : You can stop crying now, Nick. It's gone. It's also when you can actually get their conditional drops, since the game checks to see if they were killed on the first turn, not in one turn. PC-88 Version Here's this floor's Mine point.  The platform to the right is a one-way trip. On the next island, the south platform will take you to some treasure.  There's a new FOE on this island. : It doesn't look like these ones are gonna fly away.: Then let's take them out.PC-88 Version  Cocatris Type: Normal Behavior: Time of day Aggressive: Yes HP: 1650 AT: 51 DF: 65 Skills: Petrify Item Drops: -Common: Stone Beak - 1 needed for Halberd (Axe.) --A broken beak that has lost its stoning power. -Rare: Pale Quill - 1 needed for Gauntlet and Quill Boot. 3 needed for Wing Dress --Raven feathers with a variety of uses. -Conditional: N/A Description: A large, chicken-like creature that lives in the Labyrinth. Its beak turns men to stone. Weakness: Stab (150%) Resistance: Cut (75%) Cocatris aren't really that scary. They can hit fairly hard and petrify your party members, but their petrification skill is single target. They're really easy to take down at this point and shouldn't pose a threat. Carry some Therica Bs, but that's a given at this point.      Some more nice damage from Pauline.       : Oh, I thought I had that shot!: Too bad, you'll have to be quicker next time! I shudder to think just how much damage she would be doing without that bow. She's matching Fedot and Ken in terms of raw numbers right now. PC-88 Version So this floor has another gimmick. Time sensitive FOEs. There's a total of 15 Cocatris on this floor. There's three different time periods in which they spawn, with 5 spawing in different locations at each time period. Morning: 5am-9am Afternoon: 10am-3pm Night: 6pm-4am You might have noticed a bit of a gap in their spawn times. From 4 to 6pm, they won't spawn at all. You can use that time to go through the floor (which is 60 steps) without worrying about all the Cocatris. You can also plan out a route to avoid encountering any at specific times. Or you can just kill every single one that gets in your way. Guess which method I'm using to deal with them. Anyways, I'll label the Cocatris with the corresponding letters from now on. One spawns in the afternoon, but two spawn at night on this island.   Some nice treasures. The Therica BX is gonna be really handy for the rest of the Stratum. At this point, I go back to restock. PC-88 Version  I just got a new katana for Ken and you're already giving me a better one? Wow, the game insists on making Ken a murder machine.  PC-88 Version Now there's a Cocatris on this island.  Here's the spawn times for them.  This time, I'm going up.  This island only hosts a Cocatris at night. PC-88 Version  Another thing to note about Cocatris, they never use Petrify at full health or on the 1st turn. So if you're gonna take one down, do it quick. : Boss!: Oh my goodness! Where did we put the Therica Bs?: Don't worry, I'll avenge him! : Time for the big cli-   : I steal from the slow.  :   Cocatris are really nothing to worry about as long as you don't drag out the battle. PC-88 Version A few ways off this island, I take the middle left platform.  There's a Cocatris here in the morning.   I happened to snag the Gold Quill needed for the quest. : Didn't that doctor want this for a patient?: Yep. Just, uh, keep it safe for now.: Will do.PC-88 Version Kienzan has a pretty slow activation rate, and tends to go after all the enemies had their turn.  1st Turn completely fixes that problem.  : My feet fly!  : Are we still hunting for food because of Nick, cause I just cooked us a bunch of... what kind of birds are these?: Hey! We made some of that money back!: Thanks for the concern, but you don't have to worry about that as much. Somehow, we got our hands on even more money. No clue how.*cough*grinding*cough*  Fedot gets a level up. So yeah, Pauline and Ken can pretty much clear out mobs on their own. PC-88 Version 2-Hit now has a 16% chance to proc.  : Hey, maybe this skeleton is-: No.: Ugh, are we really gonna find this girl Cass is looking for? I mean any of these corpses could be her!: Well, it can't hurt to hold onto this coin for a bit longer. : I dunno, I'm kind of having my doubts about this whole thing as well.: But...: Don't worry Gilbert, we'll find her.: I hope so...Another incorrect spot for that quest.   On that previous island, I go left.   Nick is working on capping out his STR since I got most of the abilities I wanted on him.  Normally, the island to the south contains nothing. However, it's the destination for the Pride of the gunner quest.  The FOE here is the target. PC-88 Version  Edgewolf Type: Normal Behavior: Patrol Aggressive: No HP: 1146 AT: 45 DF: 35 Skills: Evil Cry, Fang Item Drops: N/A Description: A violent beast that killed the chief of the Ducal Bombardiers with its sharp fangs. Weakness: Fire (150%) Resistance: Ice (75%) It's just a stronger and far tankier version of the Wolf. You don't need to have the Gunner to get the finishing blow, just having one in your party is enough.       PC-88 Version : That was easier than I thought it would be.: This is the monster that killed that leader guy? How'd he die to that thing?You edge towards the monster to confirm the kill, when a lone guard approaches from behind.  : Yep. See, it went down like this...You explain the situation, and the wide-eyed guard nods, his mouth slightly agape.  : I see! Don't worry, I'll vouch for you. In fact, I'll head back now and give them the news!The guard eagerly shakes each of your hands and bows deeply before taking his leave. Congratulations! You have honored yourself by avenging the Ducal Bombardiers' leader! Araxxor fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Sep 4, 2015 |
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This part of the game made me a lot of trouble. For some reason it never dawned on me those platforms were always transporting you in a straight line. Those teleporters gave me a lot of trouble and I was stuck for about a week until I finally had everything mapped out and found the way upwards.
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My rule of thumb with teleporters in Etrian Odyssey games is to zoom out the map as soon as you find one, and keep it there a while. When you can see the whole floor at once, the patterns stand out that much clearer. It's worth putting off adding the walls to your map for a bit. So naturally there are floors later where it won't make a drat bit of difference.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:15
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Are there any non-postgame strata in any EO that use teleporters without some sort of pattern? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Mar 7, 2015 02:24
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Depends on your definition of pattern. You don't get random teleporters but the first game was famous for having so many of the goddamn things that you'd run out of notations you could put on the map. (There is an upper limit, albeit one you very rarely ever cross.)
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Libluini posted:Why does it have to be a lava level with teleporters or cherry blossoms? My guess is it will contain elements of both, like cherry blossoms with teleporters or something. But for those who just can't walk past a secret, I have this spoiler here: That's what you meant by teleporters? I was wondering what you meant by that. Rangpur posted:My rule of thumb with teleporters in Etrian Odyssey games is to zoom out the map as soon as you find one, and keep it there a while. When you can see the whole floor at once, the patterns stand out that much clearer. It's worth putting off adding the walls to your map for a bit. That probably would've help a lot of people who got frustrated with EO4's "teleporter mazes". Admittedly I thought those were teleporters too, until I noticed that the "warps" seemed to line up. ShadeofBlue posted:Are there any non-postgame strata in any EO that use teleporters without some sort of pattern? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Not really. The main games don't really make that much use of teleporter mazes, and even when they do they all have a pattern of sorts to them. Gonna try to push out another update soon. There's a lot more NPC dialogue in this game than I thought there would be. I really wish I had access to a text dump or something because transcribing everything is a pain. (Also means I'd be able to show off all the dialogue choices without restarting the game over and over.)
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This is pretty neat. Platforms in the treetops and all.
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Dr. Fetus posted:That's what you meant by teleporters? I was wondering what you meant by that. Yes. Mind you, I forgot all that other poo poo happening in this stratum, seems the teleporters left quite the impression on my memories.
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Monster EthicsPC-88 Version Continuing off, I got back to the previous island and go left.   Pauline has maxed out her STR. Not that it'll do her much good in the end.  This island has both Chop and Take points. But there's a Cocatris guarding this island in the afternoon, so be careful about that.   : Aw shiiiiiiiiiiooooooot. Double level up!  Unfortunately, I forgot to make use of their skill points. Unfortunately, that island was a dead end, so I head back to the island with the Mine point to move forward.  Going down just leads to a series of dead ends.  Going up is the way forward, while the other paths are detours that'll take you to some other areas. I'll cover those a bit later.  Left is the way forward.  The petals sway in the breeze as the pleasant aroma grows stronger... The serene clearing would make a good place to stop and catch your breath...  : Ah, how about a break? We've been at this for a while.: I dunno about this...: I could use a rest myself.: I don't think we should rest near those flowers.: Oh come on Nick, not every flower is out to get you. These are just regular flowers, not monsters. Just relax for a bit.: Yeah, well those aren't normal flowers! I'd recognize those teeth anywhere!: Huh? Oh crap!You are only beginning to enjoy your rest when you freeze in mortal terror... What had seemed an innocent field of flowers is actually a den of floral monsters! You are trapped amidst a horde of the fiends! You must draw your weapons and fight! PC-88 Version Crap, Petaloids?   No, gently caress this poo poo.     : Clipped. Oh come on, not even the conditional drops? PC-88 Version The bottom platform takes us further in. The top right just takes us back to the Mine point. I take the bottom right platform because it takes us to treasure.  The northern platform just takes us back to the island where we fought the Edgewolf.   A nice defense boost I guess, but I don't put this on anyone.  : Alright, I'd say that's enough for today. Why don't we... Uh oh. : Goddammit.: Boss? What's wrong?: Guess what I forgot to buy?: Oh great, we're gonna die out here.: Perhaps we should buy multiple Warp Wires. In case we forget to buy more on our trips to the store.: Nonsense. As long as we don't try to pet any squirrels, we don't need more than one.: Considering the surprising amount of times you've forgotten to buy them, I doubt that claim.Some people swear by buying spare Warp Wires in order to avoid incidents like these, but I find that to be unnecessary most of the time.  In order to get out of here, we can take this platform here.  Then go down, since the upper platform takes us back to an island we've already been to.   And taking this right platform takes us back to the entrance. From here, it's pretty easy to get back to the Geomagnetic Field. Mainly because Ken and Pauline roasted everything they came across. PC-88 Version : Fine work! The guard said that was quite the beastie yeh took on, eh?: Not really.: I've an official letter here from the Ducal Bombardiers. Allow me to read it for yeh... “Members of Firefly, we are indebted to you. Your name will be forever honored in our ranks. As a token of our appreciation, we grant your sterling gunner the title of Musketeer.” Holy...! Musketeer!? That's one of the very top ranks in the Bombardiers! Yeh just might make yer way to the leader of the group someday!: I'm not really sure how to feel about this.: I've never even heard of these guys before.: Yeh really passed this one with flying colors! Here's yer reward... Yeh've earned it. Come back anytime!  Seriously? At this point in the game?: You'd think they'd be a bit more, uh, grateful about this.: Is the reward all you think about? : Good work, yeh lot! I heard all about how yeh helped that doc cheer the kid up. So, did yeh find a Gold Quill?: Uh, I got one right here.: Wow... Look at the size of that thing... and the way it shines... Fabulous! Just hand over the Rook and yer quest will be over! Well done! Here's the King piece... yeh've earned it! Thanks a lot!    Now that Pauline's above level 40, I'll take on this quest. : Ahh, that quest... Yeh must be bound by fate or something, eh? It's from the same girl.: Ah, which one?: Whaddya mean, “which one?” Just how many girls are yeh involved with!?: Eh...: I'm drawing a blank here, too.: I'm talking about the girl who joined the naval band after yeh avenged her true love!: Ahhh! I remember her!: A lot of people nowadays look up to the “great” explorers and want to be just like them. That's fine, but I worry about the ones who go in the Labyrinth and can't defend themselves. So the Grand Duchy's decided to hold a lesson on the ins and outs of exploring. That girl's got the new troubadours in hand, but they need a skilled survivalist. So they want one of yeh lot to play teacher for a day. I'm counting on yeh! The Grand Duchy is looking for a strong survivalist to train new guild members... And the survivalist currently in your party would be perfect for their needs! Return to the bar once you have a spare moment. : Teaching new guild members... Alright, time to put on my serious face! No wait! : I guess that would be a good face to make if you're trying to scare the newcomers. : So, this one's yer candidate? Looks scary... Don't yeh ever smile?: : I'm sure yeh'll have no trouble getting a class to sit down and shut up. Well, come along now. The rest of yeh, watch the bar.Cass leaves and comes back. : Oi, I'm back! Yer survivalist is a real downer, yeh know that? I didn't see a single smile the whole time we were together. But the Duchy's men were there as an escort, so things should be fine.: She really kept that face up the entire time?: I tell yeh, though... that girl has changed a lot. She was all waving and smiling like the sun. It can only be because of yer help... it were a great thing yeh lot did. Once this job's done, yer one will be back, so just relax until then. Why don't yeh try a big plate of my latest dish? I've been experimenting with a new menu! I just know this one'll pack them in! I've been living alone for the longest time... *sniff*Fade to black. : ...And of course there was only one thing to say to THAT-- Oh, yeh're back. Job went well?: Yeah, it was really easy.: I get so jealous when I see how calm yeh lot look all the time. Yeh never lose yer cool. Truth to tell, it makes me spitting mad!: You wouldn't be saying that if you saw us in the Labyrinth.: Ehh, here's yer reward. Thanks a lot!  Oh hey, actually good rewards this time. You only get 800en if your Survivalist was level 22 to 29.  This game is just dumping katanas on me at this point. I don't buy this one because it's a downgrade for Ken.   New equipment, some we're already seen before. I upgrade and restock accordingly. : Let's buy two Warp Wires while we're here.: Wha? No, we don't need-: LET'S BUY TWO WARP WIRES.: Okay.Accidentally bought a spare, but whatever.  Nick leveled up his STR to 5, which means...  : Hee hee hee. More! More!PC-88 Version Anyways, coming back to where we left off, this platform is the way forward.   I'm leveling up Pauline's AGI so I can get some of her passive skills.  2-Hit now has a 20% chance to proc.  Yet another false ending for Cass' quest.  The middle left platform takes me nowhere meaningful. The bottom right platform is the way forward.  At this point I realized I forgot to spend Ken and Gilbert's skill points.  Ken leveled up STR to 5, which unlocked this skill. : Uh, I think if I can focus... Hmm, yeah that should help. Clarity provides an evasion bonus for the Ronin as their HP gets lower, which can help them since they're pretty squishy.  I just start leveling up Gilbert's stats since I had him take every skill I wanted. I put points into his TP and AGI.  The upper right platform takes you back to the entrance while the bottom right takes you to the stairs.  And we're completely done with the 19th floor.     The man who speaks to you now is one of the winged ones... But he seems different from the others. He is well-dressed and has a noble bearing about him. The man glares at you for an achingly long time, then speaks in harsh tones.  : We of Siveta have waited long to hear those words of the ancient pact. But words are not enough. If you wish to gain entry to the path to the heavens... Bring the Old Bauble. Without it, we do not recognize you as the bearer of the ancient pact.The chief of the winged ones crosses his arms and blocks your path forward. It seems you must return to the Duke's Palace to inquire after this Old Bauble. : You really think the Grand Duchy has this Old Bauble?: It's our best shot. They're the ones who told us about the pact in the first place.You can try to go through the door again, but...  : The ancient teachings say we cannot let you pass without it.The winged one remains resolute in his refusal to let you pass. It seems you have no choice but to inquire after the Old Bauble at the Duke's Palace. : Yeah, we'll come back with it. Hopefully.PC-88 Version : Well, we met the leader of the bird people.: You met with the chief of the winged ones...? Perhaps he may know the way to the place the Duke's daughter spoke of.: But he didn't want to let us pass. Said we needed an Old Bauble or something.: Ah, but they blocked your path. I see... So they require some other object in order to grant you access to the forest... Wait here and I shall fetch Lady Gradriel.  : From what Minister Dubois tells me, the winged ones have barred your path forward. Is this so?: Yes. They wanted us to bring them something called an Old Bauble. Any idea what that is?: This ancient keepsake they refer to... I believe I might know what they desire. I had considered offering it to you as a reward. However... To give it to you now means that you must continue searching for a way through the castle. I will part with it, on the condition that you perform a favor for me.: And that would be?   : Yeah, I accept.: Thank you... I am sorry that I must burden you with the fate of High Lagaard. I must inform the Duke's daughter of this good news. : I had faith that you would help this land. You will need this, then. It is a pendant with an engraving of an ancient sword. Perhaps this is what the winged ones mean by the proof of the ancient pact. : I am counting on you all. The floating castle and the Holy Grail... For High Lagaard's sake, you must find them! Let's see his regular dialogue.  : By the way... those winged ones. Are you certain they mean no harm to humans? If they are the ones mentioned in the legend about taking men up to the floating castle... We cannot let that happen to our citizens. You are the ones who have made contact. Please find out the truth of the matter. The last thing High Lagaard needs is an ambush from above. If you could communicate our peaceful intentions to the winged ones, we'd be grateful. It's in your hands now. I expect great things from you. PC-88 Version  : It seems that you're exploring the Labyrinth alongside the winged ones. I wish that I could meet them myself... But I have obligations here with the guild. I'll have to content myself with your stories of the higher Strata. Consider it an official task from the Explorers Guild: stay alive, and bring back stories. That's all the advice I have for you. May the Labyrinth's blessings be with you.: Will do! Heh, can't believe I'm the one telling these stories for once.PC-88 Version Whoops, some of the NPC dialogue assumes you've advanced in the floor a bit. : Uh, yeah. It's true.: Hmm... I see where this is headed. Well, it's too bad, but... If they want yer valuable time, why can't they post a request here like everyone else!?: I doubt what they asked of us could be considered a simple request.: I oughtta give those bird-people a piece of my mind... But I'll let it go this time. Yeh lot are getting a reward for this, right?: The Grand Duchy's giving us one. Does that count?: Hmmm... Yeah, I s'pose I can let them borrow yeh just this once. Haw!: “Borrow us?” You don't own us!: Are yeh insinuating I'm not the one who's been backing yeh!? I think it's time we had a chat!: Riiiiiiiiight.: Hey! Are yeh listening!? Wipe that smirk off yer face! drat, but yeh lot pisses me off... Lots of new quests. : Whatever. Oooh, tell us about this one!: Ahhh, I thought yeh'd jump at that one. It's another job from Sitoth Trading! One of the alchemists nearby has some ties to the shop, and wants to try an experiment. Yeh lot keep finding new stuff deeper in the Labyrinth, and it keeps the craftsmen happy. So they want yeh to do yer routine again, and find them some more materials. Head to Sitoth Trading for details. The young miss will fill you in like always. Take care, all right? This one's the finale to the thief quests. : Ahh, there yeh are. Did yeh find him?: Who?: Who? Oh, I mean that thief from before. The Grand Duchy got word of a flute that controls monsters. Yeh're not his only victims. They already sent out the guard corps, but yeh've been tricked twice already! This is yer fight! The bastard's on the 17th floor. I say yeh pay him a visit! Not doing this one since we need a level 50 War Magus to get the best reward.  The next quest in the Guild Esbat quest line. : Huh, the ultimate gun?: Haw haw haw! Every explorer in Lagaard comes running at the phrase “ultimate”! Remember when yeh granted that old geezer his request to find the lady in his guild? He said he'd show yeh where to find the ultimate gun, as a way of showing his thanks. But he doesn't know exactly where it is, 'cept it's in the Labyrinth somewhere. But apparently the lady is good at divination, and said she'll try her hand at finding it. I know exploring the Labyrinth would be much easier if yeh had the ultimate gun, right? So if yeh want to get yer hands on it, finish the job. The lady needs a Small Bone, a Spinal Fin, and a 100 Shell to pinpoint its location. If yeh decide to look for them, good luck to yeh.So this is a fetch quest, although a bit harder than a normal fetch quest. If you've been paying attention to the enemy bios, you'll know that all those items come from FOEs. I have the Small Bone and Spinal Fin, but I need to find another 100 Shell.   : But... if this is about the quest... Oh, I'm so sorry! I double-checked, and found out that you already sold us what we needed! I should have been more careful... I'm such a klutz! I'm so terribly sorry! I feel so bad that you came all the way out here for nothing... I'm really, really sorry. I'll be extra careful next time, I promise! Cass at the Stickleback Bar has the reward, so you can get it from him, at least... I always seem to cause you so much trouble... I hope you don't hate me. Come see us any time! I really enjoy our visits! Thanks, and I'll be looking forward to seeing you again!: What?: Uh, it's okay?It turns out I completed this quest by accident. You need to make a Safeguard, which needs a Hazard Bud and a Malachite to unlock. But because I already did that, instead of Abigail spitting out the quest dialogue, she has a breakdown instead. I don't even know what the quest was supposed to be about since it's too late for me to get the quest dialogue. I'll try to be more careful about that in the future.  : Here yeh go. I don't know what they were working on, but I hope it went well.: I don't even know what happened there. She just suddenly started apologizing when we opened our mouths.: Yeh lot do yer share of work for them, eh? Yeh're practically their delivery service... I hear there's all sorts of uses for alchemy. Some noble houses even keeps an alchemist on hand to light the cooking stoves! The more skills and whatnot yeh develop in the Labyrinth, the easier life gets for all of us. If yeh're out of candles, say, a glowing rock could do the trick. Although even if I had that sort of thing, I'd never figure out how to use it! Haw! Well, that job's done with. Here's yer reward. Use it wisely, all right? Come back anytime! : I have no idea what just transpired.  Not much new equipment unlocked from that. Anyways, here's her regular dialogue.  : Hey, did you know the butcher's having a big sale!?: Really now? Where is it?: Go straight out the door, left at the wall, and the butcher's should be on your right. Oh, wait... I guess explorers usually eat at the inn... But the meat from there is so, so good! Serve it along with potatoes... yum! You really have to try it for yourself someday! I held off on picking up this quest since there was gonna be so much dialogue overlap with Abigail if I did. I should probably tell you that this is part of the Dragon quest line. It comes right after Dazed and disoriented. : Oh, what's this?: Ahhh, that one's from the same girl as always--yer friend from Sitoth Trading. I don't know the details, but she seems to be in a bind. I suggest yeh go see her as soon as possible... She looked a mite frazzled. Help her, why don't yeh? PC-88 Verison  : I've heard rumors of a strange race of winged ones there... If they're true, I'd love to be able to meet with one. But I'm always on call here... I can't ignore my patients. So I'll leave the exploring to you! Good luck! : Holy- where do you want it? H-Here? : That's right, just set it over there... Great! Thanks! That wasn't so heavy when I was younger, but now...: You should be careful. You don't want to strain yourself.: Huh? I shouldn't overdo it? Oh, you're too kind... Thanks for worrying about me.: What was that stuff, anyway?: Oh, these are just my daughter's old clothes. I'm going to donate them to charity. You have to look out for those less fortunate, you know. You too! If you see anyone in trouble in the Labyrinth, you should help them out. Who knows? Maybe they might pay you back someday!PC-88 Version : Indeed. What do you need?: I'm... I'm not sure if I should be asking you to do this... I mean, you're already working so hard to climb Yggdrasil and find that floating castle...! B-But... I need you to... defeat some monsters for me, and... Ohhh, I can't ask you to do it! I'm sorry! You don't have to take the job! Just go back to the bar, and tell Cass I said it was okay to take the reward!: Huh?For the record, she's serious. We can go to the bar right now and turn this quest in.  : We did, but she just told us to take the reward. Not sure what happened there.: What the...? The job was over before it started? What the devil is that supposed to mean? Well... if the client says so, I s'pose it's all right. But I think yeh'd better go have another try at asking her, don't yeh agree? Might be easier getting her to talk if yeh go at night, when she's got fewer customers. It's up to yeh.: Hmm... Screw alleviating a little girl's guilty conscience, let's just get the reward. : Well... if yeh did what yeh think was best, then there's nothing I can say. Definitely not the sort of job that leaves yeh with a warm, fuzzy feeling inside. Ahhh, but talking about it doesn't solve anything. Here's the reward. Come back anytime! Oh fine, I'll do it properly.  : You didn't take the reward!? Wh-Why not?: You can tell us if something's wrong. We'll listen.: ......O-Okay... but please don't do the job if you don't want to, okay? I heard from an explorer who came to the shop... Um... No! I can't! I just can't ask you to do this!: But-: It's okay! Really! I'm sorry about this... Thanks for trying to help!: I don't think we're getting anything out of her now.  : She just sent us back here to take the reward. Couldn't get anything out of her.: Don't yeh know how to stand up to a wee little girl!? Just because she says “that's okay” doesn't mean it IS okay! Yeh've got to pry it out of her no matter what she says!: What do you suggest we do then?: Here, try this... I happen to know that she has dinner at 9 in the evening. That's yer chance! Head to the central city to find her. 9 in the evening! Got that?I just wandered around near the Labyrinth entrance for 3 hours.   : Oh, what are you doing out here with Abigail?: Hm? The girl? I tried talking to her, since she didn't look well, but she was preoccupied. It sounds like it has something to do with you... Is there anything I can do to help? I was just telling her how much you could be trusted!: Well that's awfully convenient.: Yeah, you can tell us anything! We'll listen!: All right, I've made up my mind! I have a request for you... Will you hear me out? : Sure. What's on your mind?: Thank you so much! Umm, I heard this from an explorer who was in the shop not long ago. His guild defeated a monster in the northwest part of the 19th floor. It attacked first, and they had no choice but to kill it, but its child was left behind. I know monsters are a pain for explorers like you, so it might be strange for me to ask... But ever since I heard that story, I've been worried sick about the monster's child! Can't you please do something so it doesn't die!? I don't know what monsters like to eat, but I brought some food that it might eat! Please save the baby monster! I'm begging you!  : ...Can't say I was expecting that.: Should we do it? I mean, baby or not, it's still a monster.: It may be a danger to others when it reaches adulthood. Letting it die would mean one less monster for others to worry about.: Hmm... That's a good point, but I just wouldn't feel right about doing that. Especially when Abigail begged us to do it.: Well, it's up to the you in the end. I gotta say, I agree with you. I don't really feel right about leaving a baby to die either. Even if it is a monster.Now I went back into the Labyrinth to fulfill this request.     :  : Goddamit Ken.PC-88 Version : Look over there!There is a small lump in the grass... You investigate to find a small bird wrapped in fur. The bird remains still, looking at you with its dark, beady eyes. You think back to the quest you accepted from Abigail... You swore to feed a baby monster that had been orphaned in the Labyrinth. This must be the same monster child the girl referred to... But the bird is a monster at heart, and may eventually grow up to attack you... or others. You wonder if the benefits of being merciful are worth the risk involved...  This is not a but thou must situation. We can leave the baby to starve, and this quest won't have a happy ending. So let's not do that. As you offer the food to the little bird, it eagerly swallows without a moment's hesitation. Though this is a monster that may eventually be your enemy, you are showing mercy for now. You recall Abigail's face as you agreed to help, and decide it may have been worthwhile. The bird finishes its meal... It seems to have regained some of its energy. You leave the remainder of the food nearby, so as not to leave it in danger of starvation. : Aw, it looks so cute!Touched by the bird's innocence, Pauline feels at peace after helping it survive.  Your third party member recovers 10 TP if you say yes. PC-88 Version : Ahhh, yeh're back. I heard the story... a baby monster, eh? Are yeh okay with this? There are so many monsters in the Labyrinth already... If it grows up to be dangerous, yeh'll have to shoulder that responsibility.: I'm aware of that.: Well, that's all I'll say on the matter. Just remember... yer actions have consequences. Ahh, and here's the reward. Just make sure the beastie yeh fed doesn't have yeh lot for a second course! Haw haw haw! This is our only reward. Yes, we could have just turned this in without all that back and forth and nothing would have changed. Though Cass did brings up a good point. Was saving the animal a good idea? Who knows if we'll ever find that out. Anyways for the A diviner's tools quest, I went and killed a Shelltor for the 100 Shell.   : So yeh lot went out to find the stuff, eh? I knew yeh couldn't pass up the ultimate gun! I'll make sure that lady gets the whole kit and caboodle. And if she figures out where the gun is, I'll let yeh know at once. Keep yer fingers crossed!  Now THAT'S a reward! We can't buy these until the postgame. It's the highest tier of Nectall, reviving everyone at full HP! Yeah, you can see why these items never reappeared in any other games. PC-88 Version  The winged one repeats his familiar request. : Yeah. Got it right here.When you produce the Old Bauble given to you by the Duke's daughter, he seems surprised. : By almighty Nuh... They may be the ones we have been waiting for...!The clearly excited winged one looks at you in appraisal. : It is as the pact said. Tell me, earthbound ones... What are your names? : Uhh...The winged one smiles wryly at your reluctance to give your names. : Earthbound ones, you need not be so cautious. We accept you as bearers of the pact. But we cannot guide those whose names we do not know. Please, tell me you names.: Okay, I'm... : ...And those are our names. But you can just call us Guild Firefly.: Firefly... I shall remember that name well. : With the words of the ancient pact and the Old Bauble, you may take the road to the skies. Our kind obeys our god and stays in the forest. We do not mingle with earthbound ones. Hear me, Firefly. Though you are earthbound ones, you bear the proper credentials. We are bound by our teachings to direct you to the path leading into the heavens. But think carefully... Do you truly have the resolve to throw yourself on the sky's mercy?Canaan points to the forest behind him, speaking slowly. : It's true. The path to the throne of god lies beyond here. But it is also a gateway to death. A winged beast perches before that sacred gate. Our boss for this Stratum. : If you would head to the castle in the heavens, you must face the Queen of the Skies...Canaan continues, as if testing your resolve. : Though I doubt that those who bear the pact would back down out of fear.With that, Canaan spreads his formidable black wings. : Farewell, Firefly. We shall meet again once you've reached the path to the heavens.After these last words, Canaan flies high into the air and disappears into the sky. You can continue ahead or return to town and resupply. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Sep 4, 2015 |
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You wrote that Nectar II was the highest tier of Nectall.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:You wrote that Nectar II was the highest tier of Nectall. Whoops! I had the wrong image there. Fixed that. Yeah, there was a reason why this was the only game Nectalls appeared in.
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