Widestancer posted:What are some of the harder to access ones and are they worth it? Darkest Hour is probably the best WW1+2 mapgame, but it has fairly micro-heavy mechanics
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gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:is it wrong i want a darkest hour mod with a really spergy tech tree like mod 34 for hoi2 Did you play Hearts of Iron 1?
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Oct 15, 2014 03:32
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Larry Parrish posted:most of the heresies are insanely boring and its pretty sad. cathar is the only catholic one with actual new mechanics. fratricelli's only gimmick is it prevents the reformation in the ck2 converter. pagans should also probably get heresies based on contact with organized religions or something, like how the norse believed that christians were all magic early on or something. make them more interesting than blah blot blah blah
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Oct 18, 2014 03:45
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OkieMurse posted:Is that a catholic heresy? nestorian, so good luck! but they do get all the benefits of catharism too
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Oct 18, 2014 03:48
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gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:please insanely and violently murder all bronies HoI1 had a ridiculously involved tech system, wish I still had my disc so I could show off screenies.
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Oct 18, 2014 13:48
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gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:googling it doesnt show anything either the basic rundown- bought with IC, researching techs gave you bonuses on related techs, each tech was like a subtech in HOI2 and beyond, tangled spaghetti of prereqs, and unit customization- after researching the "midwar fighter plane prototype tests" you could then pick from various engines to slightly alter the new fighter, etc. in other words, one or two interesting ideas buried under a pile of nonsense DICKHEAD posted:It was so epic when Paradox farmed out the cold war game and literally the entire game seemed to be based around customizing battleships with doodads instead of politics and it didn't even have pops. 'Twas
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Oct 19, 2014 02:03
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OkieMurse posted:I'm really glad to hear another paradox fan bounce off of HoI. I just couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried and I thought it was just because I was dumb. Hearts of Iron a)is deliberately obscure for no good reason, b)eliminates most of the political stuff that makes other paradox games fun, c)renders what's left largely pointless, d)requires that the player avoid placing their hands and feet outside of the ride vehicle, and e)requires far too much micro. yet i still play it, for some reason.
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Oct 19, 2014 03:26
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DICKHEAD posted:They're moving in the direction of more transparent mechanics since basically CK2. Hopefully HoI4 is more like that. well, the manuals tell you what happens in ground combat, it's just so complex you can't really wrap your head around it, and probably nobody understands naval combat given that they never really fixed cruizerg completely. hoi4 looks like it could be playable for sane people from the dev diaries, and that will be good
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Oct 19, 2014 03:41
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DICKHEAD posted:I meant transparent more in the sense of explained in the tooltips in game rather than it's up to the player to figure out what Gearing is and poo poo like that. I guess by going to a manual but paradox manuals are (were? do they still have them?) full of out of date information. By the time I got EU2 (about 6 months after release I guess) the info in the like 100+ page paperback binding manual was all totally wrong. haha hoi1 shipped without being able to load paratroopers into planes. it took me months to figure out that i wasn't doing anything wrong and i had to download a patch. a defining moment in the life of a young gamer.
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Oct 19, 2014 03:50
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:im gonna email johan or wiz and ask them to add a werewolf or vampire traits He was also known as a sorceror, so he should definitely have the Mystic trait or something.
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Oct 23, 2014 00:47
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Wormskull posted:It's Hohenzollern. Come on.
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Oct 24, 2014 01:28
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Larry Parrish posted:My favorite thing is that the CK2 Ethiopia is a more northern area than the actual EU4 Ethiopia occupies. Like counties that exist in CK2 become uncolonized in EU4. Paradox wtf. I get that they are trying to 'compress' Ethiopia to fit on the CK2 map a little but it's really loving wierd. The next DLC will push things back to the death of Muhammad and Iceland will be a theocracy with Irish culture
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Oct 24, 2014 04:23
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Larry Parrish posted:Instead of the current insanity with the Shia and the Sunni existing in peaceful harmony, we will have Islam never actually fracture at all because the AI doesn't meet the requirements somehow. Also there'll be an Arabic Pagan county in somewhere stupid as poo poo like where the Mesallians are now, complete with yet another set of completely insane decisions like Form The Arabic Empire Of Ra or some poo poo. And three of your holy sites are in France. I can't remember whether they bothered to include the Kharijite rebellion when Old Gods dropped but I'm sure it sucks.
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Oct 24, 2014 04:36
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Epinephrine posted:I think we'll survive with icon counters IF sufficient variety in icon counters to account for the varying types of divisions. Are those tanks light, medium, or heavy? Are those infantry motorized? NATO counters tell us at a glance. Icons could if done right (after all, NATO counters are icons) but so far all we have seen are infantry and armor icons. gently caress yes, the exacting distinction between different kinds of tank, very important to the world war 2 mapgaming experience
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Nov 11, 2014 02:04
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Buschmaki posted:I played the HoI 3 tutorial with Hitler and even that couldnt have me begin to understand the game. A true mapgamer would remember that Paradox is only now coming to grips with the idea of a "tutorial".
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Nov 29, 2014 07:16
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Morholt posted:the first time i played hoi2, i was like, wow i can play as any country in the world?? with the extended finish, i've always wanted to try industrializing as a tiny minor in south america and then setting out on global conquest post-war, but every time i do i realize that the highest speed is still an order of magnitude too slow.
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Dec 5, 2014 16:19
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Why did the human being Wiz add ideas for loving Quebec and Mexico but not Brazil he's ex-LF, so he's racist as hell and flies to thailand to buy sex
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Dec 6, 2014 01:15
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I want that guy to die of the "French disease", and for him to have gotten it from a "French penis".
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Dec 6, 2014 02:17
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Same but with krautchan/4chan's /int/ and yugoslav music videos on youtube this, but with actual serbian neighbors Frank Horrigan posted:Mods, man. The GoT mod is pretty nice, considering the subject material. Knuc U Kinte posted:I tried that mod, and it was incredibly boring.
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Dec 22, 2014 01:47
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darkest hour is crashing like mad now. the wiz has taught the kaiserreich dev team well
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Dec 27, 2014 04:26
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Pewdiepie posted:U mayyad?
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Dec 28, 2014 06:59
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I wouldn't consider myself good at CK2, but how can you be so bad you don't even try anything else besides sitting around waiting for an event to fire?
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Jan 4, 2015 16:14
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Broken Cog posted:It looks pretty dull, I dunno why people are so excited about it. It's basically just waiting for events to fire and pouring money into a bucket in the hopes that your bucket will be big enough to get your ancient bishop into the College, where he might become Pope for a year before dying.
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Jan 8, 2015 15:55
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:add mechanics to slavic and tengri for gently caress's sake. vikings are cool and paradox is full of scandinavian faggots but if there is one pagan that is bound to reform is deffo gonna be one of those tengri/tenger is also still around so there's plenty of sources they can use
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Jan 8, 2015 17:18
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Larry Parrish posted:hahah the pdox thread has a billion people talking about how they learned about mapgames from like, LP's back in 2004 or whatever. *the wiz's hosed-up giggle reverberates through the forums*
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Jan 11, 2015 15:44
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I got started in this when I received HOI1 and EU1 as birthday presents from my grandma.gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:Wiz isn't involved in hoi4 right Nope, its podcat and darkrenown.
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Jan 12, 2015 00:20
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i decided to try out the cold war mod for darkest hour, and i am lolling at the fact that none of the new units got added into doctrine techs, so your guided-missile destroyers will only ever have positioning as good as a transport also subs still can't freaking launch nukes and yet you have multiple kinds of SSB and SSBN.
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Jan 14, 2015 04:26
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Pewdiepie posted:I wish Johan would post here... He did, once, as pdxjohan.
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Jan 15, 2015 00:42
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Larry Parrish posted:I'm OK with it being more complex than CK2 or EU4 but if I'm forced to do some ultra-faggy insanely indepth bullshit like manage the mid-level management in my pretend army I'm going to curbstomp friend of the family Wiz's head. hoi2 is already too micromanage-y with airpower and poo poo, i don't need any more of that!
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Jan 17, 2015 05:03
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Larry Parrish posted:seriously im trying so hard to like Darkest Hour but I just can't take it. i also really hate the intelligence system because it's such bullshit the japanese knew what ships were at pearl harbor, DH team!!!
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Jan 17, 2015 05:07
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gently caress trophy 2k14 posted:I don't think the intelligence system has changed at all since Armageddon. no, in armageddon you had a "naval intelligence" mission that would give you a chance of seeing naval units of the target nation but i've never, ever, even when using the console to max out tech, had that happen in DH.
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Jan 17, 2015 05:18
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BBJoey posted:i have never in all my playthroughs of DH gotten anything useful out of the intelligence menu, even when i tried. the chances to do things are retardedly low but the info you can get on enemies or neutrals is good, particularly when derailing. of course, you can only hit up your neighbors with it.
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Jan 17, 2015 06:06
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Raserys posted:ck2 question, has anyone actually managed to be reincarnated or what I'm looking at the code and it's a mess, but I think you need to have a minimum number of generations between them if I'm interpreting the nested father = { chains correctly. And possibly they need to have grandparents dead.
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Jan 26, 2015 21:40
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gently caress trophy 2k15 posted:yo why didnt any of you fucks say anything about the darkest hour patch coming out There's a DH patch? Does it fix KR crashing like it's goin' out of style?
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Feb 2, 2015 02:36
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gently caress trophy 2k15 posted:no but playing as japan in '33 you can chose between going for china or ussr. eh on the first thing, i'd have liked to see the option for an allied japan if they're gonna implement alt-hist craziness, good on the second, and huh on the third
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Feb 2, 2015 04:50
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Larry Parrish posted:I have all of the recolors installed and I can't figure out which one I like. I sorta favor the green one though. Yeah.
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Feb 2, 2015 19:34
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Man Whore posted:the wiki that never gets updated says you get changed to despotic monarchy if you are a republic. speaking of which, the wikis for the older mapgames are now dead.
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Feb 3, 2015 04:34
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Retinue is completely worthless now. I owned enough of England to form Brittania and my retinue never got bigger than 700 troops. Barely enough to fend off vikings. Is this new-new? Cause somewhere in there they made it almost entirely based on tech+buildings but I haven't played much since Charlemagne
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Feb 7, 2015 23:26
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Larry Parrish posted:Honestly the [pre-EU4 Paradox] combat system is fucktarded and they really need to simplify it down. It might as well just roll a d20 based on general vs general's stats or something because it's totally crazy and all the info flashes by so fast even on 1x that it might as well be loving dummy text. It's too bad the old wiki is down so I can't quote the passage about how they had no clue how naval combat worked in HOI2.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:its p cool to see where the videogame version takes a lot of the mechanics though. i imagine the first EU played exactly like that the first eu was an incredible mess and barely playable, so you let me know
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