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Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Okay, I can see that Archer is Trunks, but who is Shirou dressed as? It seems like he's wearing the same shirt he always wears, and sweat pants. ...and those DBZ shoes, so... is he the other version of Trunks, or something?

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Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

I feel like Waver's thing is more like "we should stop organizing magical society around these weird incestuous families and start working on social structures that help people increase their magic power in other ways."

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Shirou isn't just too nice, he actively has traumatic flashbacks when people suggest to him that he should try smiling. The guy literally needs a trigger warning for happiness.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Raenir Salazar posted:

Makes me wonder if every Magus can have a in theory their own reality marble that reflects their specialty? Its just otherwise normally possible to achieve that level of magic though?

I think you have to be single-minded to a point that's not really healthy. Ordinary people can't be distilled down to a single concept like that.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

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Tonfa posted:

What did the Tohsakas even get out of giving Sakura as a weapon to the Matous, or did they just do that because raising one child is enough work :effort:

Protection from strangers who might steal her for her rare and unique ability, and the opportunity to have their rare and unique child be brought up as a first-rate magus and not a might-have-been.

...it didn't really work out.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

It seems like using a condom would be against the spirit of a mana-transfer sex ritual.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

I guess the question is "how do you objectively judge a piece of art that looks X but has hidden depths Y if most people aren't going to invest twenty hours into finding the part where Y becomes visible."

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

There's a UBW Abridged Version now.

It actually seems really good! I like where they're going with Rin; I think it all depends now on the take they have on Shirou when we actually get to see him speak.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

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I feel like you do at least have to have the plot, because a parody doesn't work unless it's also a working example of the thing it's parodying.

I've already determined by showing it to a friend that this abridgement makes no sense if you aren't familiar with F/SN already.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

UBW Abridged continues to amuse, partly because of Shirou's dedication to the idea of getting ripped and saving everybody, but mostly because they really nailed Kotomine.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

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In retrospect Shirou's open admiration for Saber's prowess also makes him a lot more tolerable by removing his "heinous misogyny" attribute.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

The UBW anime makes it pretty clear that Shirou is not quite right. He literally needs a trigger warning for happiness because people suggesting he do things to enjoy himself gives him horrible flashbacks.

If nothing else the abridged version demonstrates that the character works fine with the misogyny excised and the next six adaptations should follow them in removing it.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

It's unironically hilarious how obvious Nasu makes it that Kotomine is evil and how literally nobody seems to catch on until he starts openly doing evil poo poo.

*guy voiced by Joji Nakata who's also like 8 feet tall and built like a brick shithouse, wears all black, and says creepy poo poo about REJOICING pops up, creepy organ music starts playing in the background* "HMM YES THIS LOOKS LIKE A MAN WE CAN ALL TRUST"

Well, I mean, you have to consider who Rin and Shirou's points of comparison are. They don't know that many non-evil, non-crazy people. The most important character who isn't crazy or evil in their social circle is probably... Issei?

I'm just saying Shirou's bar for "seems like a normal person" is set pretty low.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Taiga totally falls under crazy even if she is best girl. I mean, she's from a secret mob family so she's pretty obviously going to skew Shirou's "this is what normal people are like" sense even if she isn't evil.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

What exactly is this from?

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

That... cannot be a comfortable way to keep your junks.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

That salmon looked real good.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

If Iskander has to mentor every jerk he comes across, he's never going to get around to conquering the world.

Wait, maybe that's not such a bad plan...

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Shirou's damage is close enough to "toxic masculinity" that it's worth including under that label for discussion purposes, if only so you can talk about how it's different from that.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

It's a pretty good example of how nobody actually needs that much money and that if you insist on having it, you'll then need something to waste it on.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Silver2195 posted:

A lot of the TM wiki explanations of things (and, by extension, the sources like the Complete Material books that they seem to be taken from) are confusing like that. Like the original concept for First Folio from Complete Material IV: "a tome that can alter or falsify the outcome of a phenomenon occurring within sight for a limited number of instances. While functionally useless in the face of an enemy that outclasses him in every attribute, it has a chance of inflicting death upon otherwise defeatable opponents if skillfully deployed." That's hilariously vague.

They also seem to rely heavily on the Word of God, without trying to create any context for the very small amount of things the author has said about them, which are often extremely tangential.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Are Shirou's ideals really running up against reality? It feels more like they're running up against the fact that they're so vague that he can't really point to a specific thing they're pushing him to do.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

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It does kind of sound like a new translation, written on the understanding that English-speaking audiences have a much lower tolerance for repetition, would do the franchise some real good.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

If people have to dig for double-digit hours to get through the first layer, then what’s in the first layer is a genuine problem, yes.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

I always appreciated Vlad and his boss more or less waving away the misbehavior of servants like Astolfo by saying, "well, when you summon heroes to be your champions, they're gonna do hero things even when it's inconvenient and you basically just have to put up with it."

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

From that description it sounds like Waver is moving relentlessly upwards by virtue of being the only magus with any sense whatsoever, only because magi are dumb they all think he sucks, including him.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Unrelatedly, is anyone here following UBW Abridged on youtube

One of my anime friends turned me onto it and it's loving funny as hell

Nearly everything out of Rin's mouth is solid gold

"Does it bother me that my Servant is so clever that all mankind blames him for their shortcomings? Not particularly, no."

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

AlternateNu posted:

Also, also, Saber's neurotic misgivings about Kiritsugu whenever he and/or the 4th war are brought up.

"Are you all right? Swear you'll never use a gun and I will call an ambulance immediately!"

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Basic saberfacemetrics.

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

UBW Abridged put out its sixth episode today, which continues to be very entertaining.

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Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Surely it'll just get released by the same people who published the English versions of the previous iterations of the games, right?


/goes to look up who this was


...what, never, seriously? Not even the non-porn versions?

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