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Okay, I can see that Archer is Trunks, but who is Shirou dressed as? It seems like he's wearing the same shirt he always wears, and sweat pants. ...and those DBZ shoes, so... is he the other version of Trunks, or something?
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I feel like Waver's thing is more like "we should stop organizing magical society around these weird incestuous families and start working on social structures that help people increase their magic power in other ways."
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Nov 16, 2014 05:23
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Shirou isn't just too nice, he actively has traumatic flashbacks when people suggest to him that he should try smiling. The guy literally needs a trigger warning for happiness.
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Nov 25, 2014 17:01
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Raenir Salazar posted:Makes me wonder if every Magus can have a in theory their own reality marble that reflects their specialty? Its just otherwise normally possible to achieve that level of magic though? I think you have to be single-minded to a point that's not really healthy. Ordinary people can't be distilled down to a single concept like that.
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Dec 17, 2014 01:09
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Tonfa posted:What did the Tohsakas even get out of giving Sakura as a weapon to the Matous, or did they just do that because raising one child is enough work Protection from strangers who might steal her for her rare and unique ability, and the opportunity to have their rare and unique child be brought up as a first-rate magus and not a might-have-been. ...it didn't really work out.
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Apr 3, 2015 01:43
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It seems like using a condom would be against the spirit of a mana-transfer sex ritual.
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May 13, 2015 23:14
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I guess the question is "how do you objectively judge a piece of art that looks X but has hidden depths Y if most people aren't going to invest twenty hours into finding the part where Y becomes visible."
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May 23, 2015 20:37
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There's a UBW Abridged Version now. It actually seems really good! I like where they're going with Rin; I think it all depends now on the take they have on Shirou when we actually get to see him speak.
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May 13, 2017 06:19
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I feel like you do at least have to have the plot, because a parody doesn't work unless it's also a working example of the thing it's parodying. I've already determined by showing it to a friend that this abridgement makes no sense if you aren't familiar with F/SN already.
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May 13, 2017 20:12
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UBW Abridged continues to amuse, partly because of Shirou's dedication to the idea of getting ripped and saving everybody, but mostly because they really nailed Kotomine.
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Dec 15, 2017 05:29
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In retrospect Shirou's open admiration for Saber's prowess also makes him a lot more tolerable by removing his "heinous misogyny" attribute.
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Dec 15, 2017 20:42
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The UBW anime makes it pretty clear that Shirou is not quite right. He literally needs a trigger warning for happiness because people suggesting he do things to enjoy himself gives him horrible flashbacks. If nothing else the abridged version demonstrates that the character works fine with the misogyny excised and the next six adaptations should follow them in removing it.
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Dec 16, 2017 01:40
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:It's unironically hilarious how obvious Nasu makes it that Kotomine is evil and how literally nobody seems to catch on until he starts openly doing evil poo poo. Well, I mean, you have to consider who Rin and Shirou's points of comparison are. They don't know that many non-evil, non-crazy people. The most important character who isn't crazy or evil in their social circle is probably... Issei? I'm just saying Shirou's bar for "seems like a normal person" is set pretty low.
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Dec 22, 2017 23:37
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Taiga totally falls under crazy even if she is best girl. I mean, she's from a secret mob family so she's pretty obviously going to skew Shirou's "this is what normal people are like" sense even if she isn't evil.
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Dec 23, 2017 20:24
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What exactly is this from?
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Dec 31, 2017 17:55
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That... cannot be a comfortable way to keep your junks.
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Dec 31, 2017 19:16
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That salmon looked real good.
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Feb 3, 2018 04:04
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If Iskander has to mentor every jerk he comes across, he's never going to get around to conquering the world. Wait, maybe that's not such a bad plan...
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Feb 25, 2018 17:53
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Shirou's damage is close enough to "toxic masculinity" that it's worth including under that label for discussion purposes, if only so you can talk about how it's different from that.
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Mar 13, 2018 18:18
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It's a pretty good example of how nobody actually needs that much money and that if you insist on having it, you'll then need something to waste it on.
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Mar 15, 2018 20:47
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Silver2195 posted:A lot of the TM wiki explanations of things (and, by extension, the sources like the Complete Material books that they seem to be taken from) are confusing like that. Like the original concept for First Folio from Complete Material IV: "a tome that can alter or falsify the outcome of a phenomenon occurring within sight for a limited number of instances. While functionally useless in the face of an enemy that outclasses him in every attribute, it has a chance of inflicting death upon otherwise defeatable opponents if skillfully deployed." That's hilariously vague. They also seem to rely heavily on the Word of God, without trying to create any context for the very small amount of things the author has said about them, which are often extremely tangential.
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Jun 13, 2018 23:36
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Are Shirou's ideals really running up against reality? It feels more like they're running up against the fact that they're so vague that he can't really point to a specific thing they're pushing him to do.
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Oct 6, 2018 18:36
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It does kind of sound like a new translation, written on the understanding that English-speaking audiences have a much lower tolerance for repetition, would do the franchise some real good.
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Oct 10, 2018 21:58
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If people have to dig for double-digit hours to get through the first layer, then what’s in the first layer is a genuine problem, yes.
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Oct 13, 2018 18:10
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I always appreciated Vlad and his boss more or less waving away the misbehavior of servants like Astolfo by saying, "well, when you summon heroes to be your champions, they're gonna do hero things even when it's inconvenient and you basically just have to put up with it."
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Oct 18, 2018 00:19
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From that description it sounds like Waver is moving relentlessly upwards by virtue of being the only magus with any sense whatsoever, only because magi are dumb they all think he sucks, including him.
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Dec 30, 2018 14:12
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Unrelatedly, is anyone here following UBW Abridged on youtube "Does it bother me that my Servant is so clever that all mankind blames him for their shortcomings? Not particularly, no."
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Nov 18, 2019 20:22
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AlternateNu posted:Also, also, Saber's neurotic misgivings about Kiritsugu whenever he and/or the 4th war are brought up. "Are you all right? Swear you'll never use a gun and I will call an ambulance immediately!"
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Nov 18, 2019 21:31
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Basic saberfacemetrics.
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Nov 23, 2019 18:59
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UBW Abridged put out its sixth episode today, which continues to be very entertaining.
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Feb 15, 2020 03:26
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Surely it'll just get released by the same people who published the English versions of the previous iterations of the games, right? /goes to look up who this was ...what, never, seriously? Not even the non-porn versions?
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Aug 25, 2021 23:15
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Conspiratiorist posted:"I would simply not betray my ideals." - Emiya Shirou "could you explain these ideals with slightly more specificity"
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Feb 19, 2024 06:52
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When people say that Shirou's ideals are "vague" what they mostly mean is that he declares himself to be willing to "make sacrifices" to "save people", but the exact nature of those sacrifices and of that salvation is undefined, so that it's not actually possible to make reasonable decisions about whether the sacrifices will be "worth it." This makes sense to Shirou because Shirou has massive survivor's guilt and wants to make himself suffer, so any amount of suffering on his part seems like a worthy sacrifice for any amount of salvation for somebody else. In UBW, he gets the information that this path will be "bad" and maybe shifts his plans, a little bit? but he doesn't really change that fundamental calculus.
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May 3, 2024 18:53
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And now the eleventh episode of UBW Abridged is finally out, with its own take on this whole debate. Abridged seems to focus it more on "Archer thinks that Shirou will never change no matter what, and Shirou thinks that him changing is inevitable (largely because this is clearly the case)."
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Hellioning posted:Gotta say the fact that the abridged series coming out are for old shows instead of new ones is weird and strange. I dunno; it seems reasonable that it's easier to do an abridgement after a piece of media has had time to settle in the fandom consciousness. Plus they take forever to do so by the time you finish they'll be old regardless.
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