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StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
The Jojo ape episode has a scene where the 11-yo girl is showering seductively for the camera lens. Just because the ape is portrayed as a massive creepo doesn't mean that it still isn't played up for audience titillation. It's the equivalent of having someone weakly mutter 'oh noooo this is so bad we shouldn't be showing this oh noooooo whooopsie please don't think we like this oh noooooo' while continuing to slowly pan up the silhouetted body of a child in the shower. They're able to use the pervy ape as an excuse to be pervy and then try to laugh it off. Jojo is fun, but its not perfect. Defending stupid crap like that instead of just admitting it's not really kosher is why people think anime fans are out-of-touch weirdos - they'll fight to the death to defend the 'honor' of a show.

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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Mononoke. The show, not Princess Mononoke.

It's pretty as gently caress.

http://hanmock.co.vu/post/90185501644

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010
And now I've got two new shows to watch, thanks. Two because apparently Mononoke is a spinoff of a show called Ayakashi, and if the spinof is that pretty then I have to watch the source.

Kit Walker posted:

Mononoke. The show, not Princess Mononoke.

It's pretty as gently caress.

http://hanmock.co.vu/post/90185501644

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Outlaw Star was pretty cool and the only titty it show was full grown woman titty and I'm all about that.

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM

Decrepus posted:

Outlaw Star was pretty cool and the only titty it show was full grown woman titty and I'm all about that.

Again, Outlaw Star owns bones but the same episode with full grown woman titty has the 13ish year old genius mechanic kid get swarmed with bikini-clad women rubbin they titty all over him

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

The Repo Man posted:

BubbleGun Crisis (old and new versions)

Riding Bean

As rad as these are, they do sort of have sexualized underage women in them. Riding Bean has that younger girl who is involved in a life of crime in unfortunate ways and Bubblegum Crisis has the Robot Vampire Lesbians (from the moon) which probably count as children? I don't know how the rules work for robots. Thankfully Bean is presented as a hero figure who's main motivation is "hey stop ruining the lives of children".

Unfortunately Sonoda tends to have these types of things in his work despite everything else in them being awesome as gently caress. Gunsmith Cats has May which is kind of an edge case verging on the whole "900 year old demon" bullshit and one the later arcs just straight up has kids in a shower scene. :smith: But goddamn the dude can draw guns and cars really cool.

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Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Raptor1033 posted:

And now I've got two new shows to watch, thanks. Two because apparently Mononoke is a spinoff of a show called Ayakashi, and if the spinof is that pretty then I have to watch the source.

I haven't seen Ayakashi so I can't vouch for it, but Mononoke is excellent. Just start with that one.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

StrangersInTheNight posted:

Jojo is fun, but its not perfect.

No, it's perfect and also the only good anime ever made.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

No, it's perfect and also the only good anime ever made.

Excuse me, but Fist of the North Star.

God Of Paradise
Jan 23, 2012
You know, I'd be less worried about my 16 year old daughter dating a successful 40 year old cartoonist than dating a 16 year old loser.

I mean, Jesus, kid, at least date a motherfucker with abortion money and house to have sex at where your mother and I don't have to hear it. Also, if he treats her poorly, boom, that asshole's gonna catch a statch charge.

Please, John K. Date my daughter... Save her from dating smelly dropouts who wanna-be Soundcloud rappers.
Ping Pong The Animation.

The story is centered entirely around children. None of them are sexualized. It's also an incredibly good show, in a medium filled with horrible poo poo.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Tiberius Thyben posted:

Excuse me, but Fist of the North Star.

Fist of the North Star has tons of recycled animation and speed lines for just about every fight but still manages to be awesome as gently caress with the best protagonist ever.

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Perry Normal
Jul 23, 2010

Humans disgust me. Vile creatures.
:golgo:

I don't recall any sexualized children in the recent Golgo 13 show but I still haven't caught up past the second season. I don't really remember any in the English volumes they put out a while back either.

malleusmalefic
Jan 1, 2014
No sexualized children in Eureka Seven. That is a good anime if you like anime.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Tracula posted:

Fist of the North Star has tons of recycled animation and speed lines for just about every fight but still manages to be awesome as gently caress with the best protagonist ever.

It also has exactly 0 sexualized children. Truly the perfect anime.

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.




It's reassuring to know that after we're all dead and gone, Lupin the Third and JoJo will still continue on.

Lamprey Cannon
Jul 23, 2011

by exmarx

malleusmalefic posted:

No sexualized children in Eureka Seven. That is a good anime if you like anime.

I am suspicious of this. I watched a few episodes of the sequel, Astral Ocean, and I stopped after shots started focusing on the rear end of a 13-year old girl in a skintight suit. Is that a thing I should expect from Eureka Seven?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Lamprey Cannon posted:

I am suspicious of this. I watched a few episodes of the sequel, Astral Ocean, and I stopped after shots started focusing on the rear end of a 13-year old girl in a skintight suit. Is that a thing I should expect from Eureka Seven?

Astral Ocean is largely despised by anyone that liked Eureka Seven. Take that as you will.

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



Lamprey Cannon posted:

I am suspicious of this. I watched a few episodes of the sequel, Astral Ocean, and I stopped after shots started focusing on the rear end of a 13-year old girl in a skintight suit. Is that a thing I should expect from Eureka Seven?

Astral Ocean was the show that made me give up anime for two years. If you even casually liked E7 (like me), AO is loving terrible and introduces a far cooler premise in the final third of the series: Dimension hopping Renton looking for Eureka.

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


Decrepus posted:

Outlaw Star was pretty cool and the only titty it show was full grown woman titty and I'm all about that.

Yes, it was very cool.

LordGugs
Oct 16, 2012

Vanderdeath posted:

It's reassuring to know that after we're all dead and gone, Lupin the Third and JoJo will still continue on.

Hell I don't even think the new one sexualized children, and that show had boobs in like every episode. It also had an episode with Castro and a groovy rear end art style.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Lamprey Cannon posted:

I am suspicious of this. I watched a few episodes of the sequel, Astral Ocean, and I stopped after shots started focusing on the rear end of a 13-year old girl in a skintight suit. Is that a thing I should expect from Eureka Seven?

Astral Ocean might literally be one of the worst, most unnecessary sequels ever created. I realise that's a long list that spans many media and years, but holy poo poo is it bad.

That's like watching..oh Alien vs Predator and deciding that Alien isn't worth seing.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


itt: a bunch of dudes whose only knowledge of anime comes from dragon ball and secondhand reports on internet forums psychoanalyze japanese society

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


anime heavily sexualizes female characters in general because japan doesn't have as strong a taboo on sex and pornography, and japan is also pretty sexist. they're selling titties to gross lecherous teenage boys and grown men.

unfortunately with the lack of taboos on sex in general it turns out there's not much taboo on sex with children either. that doesn't mean japanese are pedos any more than americans are but it does mean pedoshit exists and is openly consumed in public.

anyways i dont think anime has as much actual child porn as the gibbis crew insists. there's shitloads of porn but not that much child porn. if youre counting poo poo where the protag and the girl are both 16 youre grasping at straws IMO. yeah sure an artbook says yoko from gurren lagann is 15 or w/e but she has honkers the size of watermelons and is like three feet taller than the main character

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HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
i basically agree with you but the thing is the creepy pedo stuff shows up in things that are otherwise fine and it's really hard to sell non-anime baby people on "this is really good but theres 10 year old girl rear end in it" like with the jojo anime adaptation.

or like, pani poni dash was pretty funny but there is no way in hell you're ever going to hear me admit to having watched it outside of this post because it was creepy as all hell about 10 year old girl rear end. it's not so much that anime is all 10 year old girl rear end all the time, but it pops up often enough that you have to throw out a lot of "you need to ignore this extremely creepy poo poo because the rest of it is worth it" caveats to recommend anime to people and it makes me not want to ever talk about it

i don't think it justifies an indictment of japanese society but from what i've heard of how the anime business model works, it probably justifies an indictment of that. correct me if im wrong because i regularly parrot this without knowing how accurate it is but i hear most studios add in the creepy pedo stuff because they would rather get that sweet uncensored bluray and plastic figure money from the devil they know (a minority of ultracreeps with lots of disposable income) than try to make something that has mass appeal but doesnt attract that all-important dipshit fucker demographic

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
just watch dennou coil and the tatami galaxy i guess

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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


i dunno im more negative on japan as a whole. it's complicated. i think the pornographic poo poo is a lot more mainstream than people think, like even in naruto and bleach and totally mainstream shonen there are female characters with gigantic tits for the enjoyment of the 15 year old readers. gently caress even in pokemon you have brock ogling nurses as a throwaway gag in a show for 10 year olds. people say they dont understand why anime makers dont make shows with mass appeal but this poo poo does have mass appeal, that's the point.


it should be pointed out that most of this porn isnt actually child porn. it might be fetishy and creepy in other ways, but i dont think pedophilia is actually that common, it's just one of many creepy gross fetishes anime uses to attract lecherous weirdos, its not the only or the most prominous one. there's also slash fiction, incest, and rape, to name a few. maybe im not watching the right animes, im not gonna argue this one too hard. im looking at a list of bestselling animes on dvd and the top stuff is all harem garbage like monogatari, which has creepy pedophilic characters but only for like one of 15 girls in the harem, each of which is aimed at a different fetish. other characters in the harem are his sister, his sisters friends, his sisters friends mom, the tsundere classmate, the kuudere classmate, etc, etc

im not really sure if this explanation makes anime any better to be honest, but i think my main point is its not otaku that are the problem here, it's japan itself. the fact that fujoshi and female yaoi fans are a thing tells me it's a deeper problem than just japan's pedophiles being a particularly lucrative market for figma sales. i don't even know if it is a problem really, i think it's bad and gross but it is a different culture and all that.

anyways the personal standard ive come to for watching this poo poo is that i won't tolerate child porn/pedophilia, but other creepy pornographic poo poo i'll ignore, unless its particularly heinous. i wouldnt talk about that with normal people though, and i realize this puts me firmly in the internet weirdo category

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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


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Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Attack on Titan owns, and does not feature sexualized children

Budohead
Feb 13, 2011

Head Case
Here's a good anime with dogs and bears and not much else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4_mrdCI6Rw

Cicadas!
Oct 27, 2010


Budohead posted:

Here's a good anime with dogs and bears and not much else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4_mrdCI6Rw

Oh man, is this show what that one gif is from? The one with the dog that starts spinning like a frisbee and slices a bear in half? I'm not an anime person but I would watch it if the rest of it made as little sense as that gif.

Budohead
Feb 13, 2011

Head Case
Way to spoil the dramatic climax you baka :rolleye:

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
What was that manga about the guy who got involved in a fight club, and the whole thing was full of helpful tips like "if you stand next to a wall it's harder to get roundhouse kicked"?

Mock the Cross
Sep 4, 2009
Shirokuma Cafe is the greatest show in the world.




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Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

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