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The Lost struggles with greed mode and mega Satan, but outside of that I think he's the strongest character. 'Get hit no more than once a room' isn't that much of a challenge, and flight and spectral tears are as powerful a defensive combination as you can get. Add on the ability to take every devil deal so that you're almost guaranteed to be an offensive powerhouse, and I can't remember the last time I had a Lost run that wasn't horribly broken. Though sometimes you do just get unlucky in a way you can't with the other characters.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2018 18:32 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 12:05 |
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I think it jams less in Greedier, but also jam chance is per character, so while that sounds very unlucky you'll have better luck not using one character to do it all.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2018 18:15 |
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The keeper is not cool, nor something someone interested in enjoying themselves should be persuing.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2018 02:49 |
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Is anyone else having issues with the holy mantle not refreshing? It's taking two room transitions instead of one for me to come back. Playing on Linux, fwiw.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2018 07:10 |
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Id be comfortable saying holy mantle is the strongest item in the game. gently caress this Delirium / Greedier with the lost though. gently caress Greedier in general.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 18:36 |
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Rollersnake posted:I'm around 58% now. What's going to be the hardest challenge the game has in store for me? Hard mode Hush with The Lost and Keeper? Something worse I haven't considered yet? Greedier Lost/Keeper.
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# ¿ May 5, 2019 15:15 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Keeper gets bonus money and a massive amount of effective HP in Greedier Mode, so it's not too bad. Lost is harder but you at least get a bunch of devil deals and can stop the waves at any point you feel in danger for free. It's fine until you get to Ultra Greed, but Ultra Greed is just a slog.
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# ¿ May 5, 2019 20:11 |
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Rollersnake posted:It guess it would be to my benefit to bother to remember what any of the dice besides the D6 actually do. D6: break the game D20: break the game Others: range from suck to even worse
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# ¿ May 14, 2019 01:33 |
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I don't think I've thought about Isaac's graphics as any more than game pieces since like, two hours after I played the first one.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2019 21:28 |
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that ivy guy posted:God speed gamer. My sincerest condolences to those who complete all three save files manually I had never before now considered that someone might have done that...
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2020 03:54 |
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Lost + holy mantel is the strongest character I feel. Not getting hit twice in a room isn't the biggest ask, and getting to take every devil deal is such a huge power boost, though finding the goat head makes a big difference here. Except of course when it was bugged and holy mantel didn't always refresh between rooms.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 13:51 |
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It's very nice for Lost, but I've never felt that flight / ladder are anywhere near as important as in Issac 1. In that game they're nigh-essential, in this one its more just annoying when I forget I don't have them and run into a wall, but I don't feel hindered by their abscence.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 16:16 |
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Lol, over 300 hours between the two. My life is a joke.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 17:31 |
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I said it before, I'll say it again, EtG is a bullet hell masquerading as a twin stick, Nuclear Throne is a twin stick, and Issac is some weird dual d-pad thing with some design cues lifted from Zelda 1. I couldn't get into EtG, whereas I quite enjoy NT even if I haven't beaten it, and clearly I love me some Issac. I think the problem I have with EtG is that the format makes we want to play it like it's not a bullet hell, when it very much is. Or maybe I just don't like bullet hells.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 21:17 |
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Carpator Diei posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure a trap door that leads to a 2d room or the black market will always have a ladder, while one that leads to the next floor has no ladder; so saving those for the end should not be necessary. Yup.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2020 19:03 |
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Waffle! posted:Would going for Boss Rush to Hush and/or Chest give the most chances you could find the items you're looking for? Breaking Greed probably. Ariong posted:I think Greed mode is plenty fun. Greedier mode less so, but you onky have to complete one Greedier run per character, right? Not even! As long as you can accept the unlocks aren't worth it. I've got like 4 characters that still need greedier and it just ain't gonna happen.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2020 05:21 |
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Yeah with only red I'd rather boss first. Fewer chances for something to go wrong.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2020 23:39 |
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Better, but iirc not as good as a no-hit. Much like all the bad items that proc on taking damage, don't get hit. A 33% chance is no where near as good ad the 100% that you can get from not taking damage vs the boss.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2020 05:24 |
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Magdalene is tough, being slow is one of the worst things possible and an extra heart and a nifty-but-not-amazing held item in no way compensate. But it's just variance. Not taking pills is probably the right play, but it's also a boring one.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2020 17:40 |
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Also firey basement sucks. If I was still playing regularly I'd probably find some way to mod it out.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2020 20:25 |
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The game is some degree of easier if you only unlock the good runes. I didn't do it on purpose but when half your runes are Jera it's very nice.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 18:51 |
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Wildtortilla posted:What causes my tears to be deflected away from enemies sometimes? The champion type that flashes grey does that.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 04:10 |
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The Moon Monster posted:Good game design = more complex/difficult. Eternal Edition is actually the best version of BoI tbqh. I'm inclined to agree with this.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 23:37 |
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Y'all've got me finishing up the challenges I never completed. I thought I was done with this game... Still not finishing my greedier marks though. No way.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 14:37 |
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Lost two Guardian runs in womb 2 while carrying a Bible. That little dipshit has no sense of self-preservation.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2020 14:13 |
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Down to just Ultra Hard. This is gonna be a slog.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2020 03:51 |
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Ariong posted:
You were already in the boss room, right? If it ever doesn't spawn, such as after leaving it, it won't spawn again that floor.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2020 04:18 |
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Boss rush takes some hustle, you can hit Hush playing reasonably thoroughly but it can be close if your damage isn't there. Hush itself doesn't need the best setup to beat, it's mostly about learning the patterns.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2020 21:40 |
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PostNouveau posted:It's not too tough to beat. You may want to do it underpowered a few times just to learn the patterns. I mean it's a slog more in that an OP build will take like 90 seconds and it could be like 10 goddamn minutes with a regular build. This, is a perfectly fair point. Though I think I've only had one or two runs broken enough to completely overwhelm Hush's damage reduction.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2020 21:57 |
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Super Greed probably
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2020 23:24 |
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Ultra Hard? More like Ultra Chump. Book of Rev + Judas's Shadow on floor one, kidney stone floor 2 carried me through mom, picked up brimstone after and tore through the rest. That was tedious.
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2020 22:21 |
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The secret there is that greed mode just isn't good. And runs of bad luck happen, but mostly the former.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2020 14:57 |
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I can't think of anything that sounds like a buzzer. Are you sure it's the game?
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2020 22:44 |
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It's been said before, but it really can't be said enough: Keeper sucks nards.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2020 16:01 |
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Really just up his firing rate a bit. The health thing is a pain but manageable, he's just a slog to play.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2020 20:54 |
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Just had a real nice Keeper run with loads of defense (Mask, Shield, Piggy bank) and good attack, but I was 3 minutes too slow for Hush and no Void portal spawned after. I got all the completion marks before afterbirth+, so all I've got left to Keep on is Delirium and Ultra Greedier.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2020 18:26 |
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Despite being a shameless nard sucker, Keeper is pretty good with tech x. Get to Delerium no problem, take damage as soon as he spawns, grab a coin, he turns into mama gurdy, get hit by the spikes, he turns into mom, get hit by the explosion before the foot lands. Fight didn't even last 30 seconds.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 01:42 |
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Wildtortilla posted:Whew, that's welcome news. Nope.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 15:17 |
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Greenplastic posted:Now I have to do two of the worst achievements. Increase size 3 times and consume 5 gulp! pills in one run. The strategies I have figured out are: Go infinite in greed mode with a pill for sale?
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 21:56 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 12:05 |
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As has been discussed at length, the swallowed penny doesn't make Keeper invincible. The swallowed penny and greeds gullet does though. That's every completion mark and challenge done, now just 13 items away from 1001% that I probably won't bother with. Thanks for inspiring me to come back to the game Wildtortilla, I thought I was done with it but there was still plenty of fun to be had.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2020 03:21 |