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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Honestly, I didn't even recognize her at first because of the different hair. Same actually
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Grouchio posted:Did the Persona 5 LP break you that badly? Grouchio this is weird
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Honestly, I didn't even recognize her at first because of the different hair. Between that and Deku's hair I was like "wait, are we looking into an alternate universe or something!?"
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Arist posted:lmao right on the money huh ZenMasterBullshit posted:Cant read can you. ZMB, I think you're getting way too passionate about whether or not somebody likes/dislikes an aspect of a fictional piece of media, even if they're being irrational or potentially baiting for arguments. And likewise Arist, if you don't want to have this discussion, you can just walk away and ignore the posters talking about it. You don't have to engage with them or justify yourself, prolonging out this tiring argument that just goes in circles and makes other posters upset.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Honestly, I didn't even recognize her at first because of the different hair. Yeah I assumed it was one of the class B people that I had just forgotten about until they namedropped her. I like the hairstyle but it's weird that this is the first time we're seeing it.
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https://twitter.com/CDCubed/status/1307010741816365056?s=20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_as_catch_can
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so uh is Midoriya missing his arm in the last two page spread? that seems bad
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Sep 19, 2020 02:21
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I feel like I’ve seen ponytail!Ochako somewhere before Fake edit: Here it is https://twitter.com/horikoshi_art/status/1259503462766702593?s=21 New one looks better though
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Carlosologist posted:so uh is Midoriya missing his arm in the last two page spread? that seems bad It's flopping behind him, most likely broken into 17 pieces.
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Sep 19, 2020 02:26
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Like the rest of his limbs, Izuku's arm is attached to his body by exactly two (2) paperclips and a rubberband. The rubberband has snapped.
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Sep 19, 2020 02:43
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Deku and Mirko get matching robot arms after the time skip
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Sep 19, 2020 02:58
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Speaking of, that arm attachment (or whatever it was) Deku got in the first movie seemed to work pretty well. Why not just build him a sturdier version of that so he doesn’t shatter most of his bones every time he fights?
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Sep 19, 2020 03:16
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Larryb posted:Speaking of, that arm attachment (or whatever it was) Deku got in the first movie seemed to work pretty well. Why not just build him a sturdier version of that so he doesn’t shatter most of his bones every time he fights? Watson: All inventions on I Island are the property of the island’s international committee, and they are unlikely to sign off on official production of a teenage girl’s design especially considering the situation of her terrorist-abetting father. Doyle: lol what movie
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Sep 19, 2020 03:33
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Looking through Horikoshi's old pre-MHA art and he really does have some motifs he digs
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Larryb posted:I forget, if someone who already has a quirk of their own gets One For All does their existing quirk get a boost of some kind? It did in the Heroes Rising movie when Bakugo got it briefly his explosions were noticeably stronger and larger than before and were just outright melting the ground. Also worth noting is that Navel Laser was way more powerful in that movie than he's ever been in the series.
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Fabricated posted:Looking through Horikoshi's old pre-MHA art and he really does have some motifs he digs Yeah, black whip seemed natural to me because I remember in Barrage the hero's weapon was also a big mess of harsh angled black lines.
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After this arc, someone is going to have to sit Deku down and have a long talk with him about this suicidal self sacrificing streak he's got going. You know, assuming he's still capable of talking after he's done tearing himself apart trying to stop Shigaraki.
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Rhonne posted:After this arc, someone is going to have to sit Deku down and have a long talk with him about this suicidal self sacrificing streak he's got going. You know, assuming he's still capable of talking after he's done tearing himself apart trying to stop Shigaraki. if there is ever a time to be self sacrificial i think this is it shigaraki is exponentially more powerful than anyone on the battlefield and has essentially effortlessly defeated the STRONGEST hero in japan while having the vast majority of his abilities turned off while also not being at his full power. deku's fully in the right to throw caution to the wind here for anything resembling a victory because he doesn't even know that things are about the get even worse with a literal mountain man arriving shortly
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tbp posted:if there is ever a time to be self sacrificial i think this is it Yeah if the story is trying to paint Deku's self sacrificial nature as a negative trait, it's doing a poor job of it. The only time he's really self sacrificed that was anywhere near optional was during the sports festival, and then you could argue he didn't know he was causing permanent damage. Every time since then he's either needed to cause permanent damage or let himself and others die. He needs to be put in more situations where he DOESN'T need to go all-out, but chooses to anyways because he thinks self-sacrifice makes him a better hero. Have a situation where another hero COULD handle it, but Deku steps in anyways cus he doesn't want to risk the other hero getting hurt or he thinks it's always his own duty to do the saving as the owner of OFA.
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Also, when put in a situation where he doesn’t have to go all out, he doesn’t. Boy handled the whole Gentle thing extremely well. Edit: Huh. There might be something to that. Everyone keeps talking about how Deku doesn't need to constantly break himself to help others, but then they keep letting him get into situations where he has to. The only other heroes you can really say were willing to go beyond to the body-demolishing extreme Deku is that we've seen are All Might, Endeavor, Lemillion, Red Riot, and Eraserhead. I don't think anyone else but them really has room to talk about how this kid needs to stop breaking himself when he keeps being the only one in a situation willing to step up to that degree. Edit 2: I don't think we've ever really even seen Bakugo injured except for that time during the Exam? girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 19, 2020 |
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CodfishCartographer posted:Yeah if the story is trying to paint Deku's self sacrificial nature as a negative trait, it's doing a poor job of it. I mean that's par for the course about violence in the comic. It tries to hit home a lot about how "You're going too far and loving yourself over forever" and then basically hard cutting to the kids putting each other in Yamcha craters for fun and training and everyone laughs it off.
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PMush Perfect posted:Edit 2: I don't think we've ever really even seen Bakugo injured except for that time during the Exam? The only time in series where Bakugo has openly pushed himself too far and started breaking himself was when he fought All Might, because he judged(correctly) that the only possible way he could actually fight someone like All Might with anything approaching success was by pulling out all the stops. His whole "combat genius" thing also seems to extend to him having an innate understanding of how to judge exactly how hard he'll need to go to win when he fights.
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I think it can be argued that Deku doesn't need to sacrifice himself in this situation. Shigaraki's body is breaking down so the damage is starting to take effect. Meanwhile with Shoto cooling down Endeavor he's almost back into the fight. If Deku just stalled Shigaraki out and kept him in the air until Endeavor and Bakugo get there to wail on him with ranged attacks that might have been the smarter play. As it is, it's looking likely that he's going to permanently gently caress his arm up. Maybe need a brace to function from now on.
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Nephthys posted:I think it can be argued that Deku doesn't need to sacrifice himself in this situation. Shigaraki's body is breaking down so the damage is starting to take effect. Meanwhile with Shoto cooling down Endeavor he's almost back into the fight. If Deku just stalled Shigaraki out and kept him in the air until Endeavor and Bakugo get there to wail on him with ranged attacks that might have been the smarter play. Deku fully believes that he and he alone must stop Shigaraki and All For One no matter what and that's got Bakugo super worried. He's basically begging Endeavor to end this with his next attack before Deku does something stupid.
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Deku and Mirko are gonna bond over both losing their arms today.
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Nephthys posted:I think it can be argued that Deku doesn't need to sacrifice himself in this situation. Shigaraki's body is breaking down so the damage is starting to take effect. Meanwhile with Shoto cooling down Endeavor he's almost back into the fight. If Deku just stalled Shigaraki out and kept him in the air until Endeavor and Bakugo get there to wail on him with ranged attacks that might have been the smarter play. It's not like Deku can really risk holding back. If he doesn't go all out and it's not enough, Shiggy will then evaporate him and all the pro heroes and then possibly all of society. Yeah Endeavor may be able to handle it, but do you really want to gamble if he can't? Especially since Deku has put Shigaraki in the perfect position for Deku to attack safely.
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Kill Six Billion Demons is great and everyone should read it.
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I really do appreciate the "aw gently caress" face Shigaraki has at the end of this chapter
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Nephthys posted:I think it can be argued that Deku doesn't need to sacrifice himself in this situation. Shigaraki's body is breaking down so the damage is starting to take effect. Meanwhile with Shoto cooling down Endeavor he's almost back into the fight. If Deku just stalled Shigaraki out and kept him in the air until Endeavor and Bakugo get there to wail on him with ranged attacks that might have been the smarter play. are we reading the same story? shigaraki, despite his body exploding, has been nonchalantly dominating several of the best pro heroes while simultaneously releasing amorphous waves of death and destruction that have killed god knows how many people already. the story isn't telling us "deku is being wacky for risking his life here!" its telling us "the hero world is on the brink of collapse right here, right now"
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tbp posted:are we reading the same story? shigaraki, despite his body exploding, has been nonchalantly dominating several of the best pro heroes while simultaneously releasing amorphous waves of death and destruction that have killed god knows how many people already. the story isn't telling us "deku is being wacky for risking his life here!" its telling us "the hero world is on the brink of collapse right here, right now" Shigaraki can't fly though, and he's apparently at enough of a disadvantage right now that even Deku can dominate him in the air. If Deku just keeps him wrapped up with the black whip and flies around hitting him enough so he can't get back the ground or recover I think he'd hold out until Endeavor came to finish Shigaraki off. With Deku's help Endeavor can nail him with a Flashfire Fist or a Hell Spider and likely do enough damage at this point to win. The way I see it, Shigaraki is the one on the clock here before his body breaks down while Deku has reinforcements on the way. I'm reading this chapter the other way that you are, Bakugo's flashback highlighted Deku's lack of care for himself and Bakugo is making GBS threads bricks right now that Deku's going to destroy himself. I don't think Horikoshi is setting that up for nothing. I think it's being set up that Deku is going to come up just short of beating Shigaraki while crippling himself and Shigaraki is going to escape. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Nephthys posted:Shigaraki can't fly though, and he's apparently at enough of a disadvantage right now that even Deku can dominate him in the air. If Deku just keeps him wrapped up with the black whip and flies around hitting him enough so he can't get back the ground or recover I think he'd hold out until Endeavor came to finish Shigaraki off. With Deku's help Endeavor can nail him with a Flashfire Fist or a Hell Spider and likely do enough damage at this point to win. The way I see it, Shigaraki is the one on the clock here before his body breaks down while Deku has reinforcements on the way. Furthermore, if Endeavor could actually finish the job on Endeavor, it's only because Deku has nailed Shigaraki with enough 100% punches that even the super regeneration isn't keeping up (as mentioned in this chapter). The fact of the matter is, this entire group of heroes would have been already dead if not for Deku's desperate actions. Even if the heroes get to finish the job, it'll still only be because they got to cherry tap Shigaraki after Deku 100% pounded Shigaraki down into the red
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i also dont really agree that shigaraki "can't fly". like yeah idt he has an outright flight quirk but he can deifnitely approximate it and now that eraser is out of commision he has full access to afo again, they cannot stop beating the poo poo out of him for even a second rn
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We can all agree tho the most important part of the chapter was Ochako’s ponytail If we do get a skip forward, will be interesting to see new designs for everyone
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Shigaraki can kind of propel himself around with air blasts but it doesn't seem like he has anywhere near the maneuverability that Deku, Endeavor or Bakugo have in the air. My point is that as long as Deku keeps him lasso'd and flies around hitting him, Shigaraki can't get back to the ground to fight on his terms and is outright losing to just Deku in midair with reinforcements incoming. I'm not saying Deku didn't 100% save everyones asses. He's the only reason they're still in this fight, which is why him potentially KO'ing himself is such a risky move. If Deku puts himself in too bad a condition to keep Shigaraki in the air, they lose. Shigaraki can either escape or touch the ground again. If he holds out until Endeavor gets there he can just whip him into his attacks and Shigaraki can't dodge them like he has until now. This is all speculation of course, I just think Deku's being set up as being really reckless here. Hori has subverted our expectations in this fight a bunch already though so who knows.
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Think of it this way, Deku thinks he and he alone must be the one to defeat Shigaraki, no matter what, which is the same kind of thinking All Might had when he became the Symbol of Peace and fought All For One and look at how that worked out for him.
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Rhonne posted:Think of it this way, Deku thinks he and he alone must be the one to defeat Shigaraki, no matter what, which is the same kind of thinking All Might had when he became the Symbol of Peace and fought All For One and look at how that worked out for him. This gets said a lot but I really don't see it. All Might WAS the only one who could stand up to OFA, much less defeat him. Futhermore, the MHA world already has not only the Justice League, but the Justice League Unlimited. And while it was more than enough for the threats that existed after All Might took care of OFA, it's not nearly enough against OFA-revived, Gigantomachia or Shigaraki++. If that was supposed to be the message (as opposed to just fan opinion), then the current events have pretty much invalidated it.
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ChronoReverse posted:This gets said a lot but I really don't see it. All Might WAS the only one who could stand up to OFA, much less defeat him. The fan theory about "the justice league ending" isn't a matter of "there is more than one hero now", because there's already more than one hero. Look at it this way - there's a gazillion bazillion pro heroes in MHA, but only All Might was the Symbol of Peace and everyone poo poo the bed and began panicking wildly when All Might tapped out, despite there still being a gazillion bazillion pro heroes. It's not even a matter of "other heroes can't handle threats like AfO" because the public at large doesn't know AfO exists or who he is and they don't know clear details about the Kamino fight either. The point of a "justice league ending" is establishing public faith in heroes as an institution through collective action rather than in one single hero in particular, because the latter works out amazingly as long as you have a workaholic ubermensch around to kill himself by playing hero 24/7 but falls apart the moment he can't any more. That said, I think the justice league ending theory has gotten increasingly distant not because "well only Deku can handle superpowerful threats like Shigaraki", but because the manga seems very, very fixated on only making very few of the kids matter narratively at all - basically Deku and Bakugo, for the most part, with occasional Shoto boosting - and increasingly relegating the rest of them to nearly nonexistent background bit roles, which is the opposite narrative road you'd want to go if the idea was to promote a more collective ending regarding heroes.
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The reason All Might was the pillar was because he has the power to pull it off. It's easy to say "that's silly, they should believe in all the heroes" but logically that's only a valid premise if the other heroes could (collectively) do what All Might does. The MHA world right from the beginning was cultivating young heroes, distributed heroing all around, had the top heroes (not just All Might) inspiring more, etc., but All Might made that possible in the first place because he recognized the need for and stood up to be the pillar. This idea that All Might was somehow stalling the transition is wrong in the first place and the whole reason the pillar collapsed is because of a singularly immense threat that nothing but he could stand up to in the first place. Furthermore, in the relatively peaceful world at the start of MHA, All Might gave OFA to quirkless Deku in recognition that such a world could use more heroes rather than concentrating power into an individual. Frankly, if he had precognition and had given it to Mirio instead, a lot of the current threats would be taken care of but that's just hindsight. ChronoReverse fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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