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A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

dank space explorer


Daaaaamn a black mirror episode had a happy ending!?

E: ish. Happy-ish.

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GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

What if they'd met?



A. Beaverhausen posted:

Daaaaamn a black mirror episode had a happy ending!?

E: ish. Happy-ish.

Hang the DJ?

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

dank space explorer



Nosedive. I'm nowhere near Hang The DJ, but good to know it happens again

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007


Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;


A. Beaverhausen posted:

Nosedive. I'm nowhere near Hang The DJ, but good to know it happens again

I thought you were talking about Shut up and Dance, the other other beautiful ending

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

panties


A. Beaverhausen posted:

Nosedive. I'm nowhere near Hang The DJ, but good to know it happens again

I don't think any of them are 100% happy endings. Even Hang the DJ is at least a little unsettling.

WaryWarren
Apr 30, 2013


Total Meatlove posted:

I thought you were talking about Shut up and Dance, the other other beautiful ending

lol

Emerson Cod
Apr 14, 2004
Here I was just about to tell you all to shut the hell up, and then you stopped talking so I didn't have to.

Android Blues posted:

This is nonsense, it doesn't take place in the same universe, and it's clearly not a "boot camp for prospective actors and singers".

I don't get why people are so hung up on continuity. In the grand tradition of British sci-fi programming, the show has continuity when it serves the story and doesn't when it doesn't.

Honestly it's as much speculation and guesswork as everyone trying to figure out how all the episodes don't take place in the same universe, especially when some clearly do. Also, that's not a grand tradition, you're just making that up. Or is that the tradition? I think we're all a bit confused.

.::screen cracking::.

(Black Mirror title)

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

dank space explorer


Goddamit. Playtest was great up until the very end, like what?

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!


A. Beaverhausen posted:

Goddamit. Playtest was great up until the very end, like what?

What if Jacob's Ladder, but too much video games?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

A. Beaverhausen posted:

Goddamit. Playtest was great up until the very end, like what?

It seems like something that was workshopped to death. "What if this happens and then there's a twist?" "That's cool, but what if there's another twist?" "Yeah, but then there's ANOTHER twist!"

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

dank space explorer


Cojawfee posted:

It seems like something that was workshopped to death. "What if this happens and then there's a twist?" "That's cool, but what if there's another twist?" "Yeah, but then there's ANOTHER twist!"

Totally. I was cool with Cooper waking up in not-Kojima's office. I was rolling my eyes at the twist after that one and the last one was just...gently caress.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

RowboatMan: Freezing time is an old P.I. trick...


Here's a link that goes into the extra twist from Playtest, dealing specifically with the line that inspired our thread title:

https://mic.com/articles/157730/bla...cism#.XMvM0omYQ

quote:

In a spoiler-filled interview with Entertainment Weekly, Brooker said Ortberg's criticism inspired the final "Playtest" twist. "When I read the first treatment, there was the first twist but not the second," Brooker said. "[Then] we were like, 'Hold on, what if we add in another thing? What if we add a phone call at the end?' I was partly amusing myself, because there's a funny criticism of Black Mirror from Mallory Ortberg who wrote, "Next on Black Mirror: What if phones, but too much?" And I thought: 'Right, that's what I'm going to do. Let's do that episode!'"

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball.

Playtest: if you twist a story too much you break it

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

dank space explorer


Doltos posted:

Playtest: if you twist a story too much you break it

Pretty much. It's just disappointing because having games as a hobby (and being a survival horror nut) it was a cool episode with really nice references, and that final twist is just...dumb. I'd definitely re-watch it though, if only for Coopers acting.

Also in general Black Mirror I'm loving the pattern of if an American and Brit are on screen together, odds are one of them is going to remark 'how very American/British of you'

E: okay because I can't stop thinking about it it makes sense that a backpacker in Europe would be scared of some shady odd job poo poo subconsciously, so that works with the Mushroom, but then for that to actually be what was happening down to the detail?

A. Beaverhausen fucked around with this message at Jan 18, 2018 around 18:05

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.


College Slice

socialsecurity posted:

You think Trump actually cared about corruption or had a single genuine and earnest thought but got magically hijacked by evil people, have you not paid attention to basically everything he has said and odne over the past 30 years.

Yeah. I essentially agree with this. Waldo was a populist con job by the powers that be. Trump is.... Trump.

I've been reading Fire and Fury and beyond the salacious stuff it actually gives a very good picture of Trump, and he's absolutely no Waldo populist manipulator who knows what to say and has a hidden agenda.

He's really way way more basic. Like a toddler or unfiltered id. Just a never ending bundle of attention neediness, resentment, and laziness.

In a way its far more unbelievable that Trump got elected than Waldo. Waldo has intelligent malice behind him. Trump is, and according to the author, a child as described by everyone in his administration. That's why he's constantly beyond satire.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!


How about this? Take away the puppet masters behind Waldo. Just leave the character, totally in a vacuum. What do you have?

Donald Trump.

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004


Watched S4, here's some quick and unpolluted opinions:

USS Callister - I liked it, and now I want to see a TV series aboit EVE Online. Well directed.
Arkangel - A bit too predictable; once you know the gimmick, you know where this goes.
Crocodile - Probably the most interesting idea and script of the lot, in my opinion.
Hang the DJ - Interesting ideas about computers as dating facilitators. Good twist.
Metalhead - Good action episode that's also spooky af. Wished it were longer to flesh the world out even more. Never seen the lead actress in anything, but she was great.
Black Museum - Too self-concious. Kind of felt like they were trying to one-up previous episodes, like the White Christmas special. Wasn't a big fan.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016
I AM NOT A DOCTOR AND YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE MY ADVICE

black mirror episode idea:

a university, or a bunch of universities, use the technology of uss callister where you can make a digital consciousness based on a human simply by scanning in their genome, to resurrect the greatest scientific minds of modern history like einstein, feynman, von neumann etc. and bring them in one place where they can contribute to the betterment of mankind. also in the same episode nazis pirate the same technology and use it to resurrect digital hitler.

Nietzsche
Mar 13, 2001


Grimey Drawer

Watched all four series over a couple weeks. A neat thing I realized from Shut Up and Dance! The name of the anti-malware software Kenny downloaded was Shrive, which sounded familiar, so I looked it up.

quote:

shrive
verb (archaic)

* (of a priest) hear the confession of, assign penance to, and absolve (someone).
* present oneself to a priest for confession, penance, and absolution.

Appropriate! I love things like that.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010



Nietzsche posted:

Watched all four series over a couple weeks. A neat thing I realized from Shut Up and Dance! The name of the anti-malware software Kenny downloaded was Shrive, which sounded familiar, so I looked it up.

It's a damning indictment of Black Mirror's version of Google that the first search result for "anti-malware" is a malware program.

That is a very poor search engine.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


https://twitter.com/michael_deforge...803240928956417

black museum

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


Thinking back to the first episode. Deepfake would definitely solve that easily.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016
I AM NOT A DOCTOR AND YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE MY ADVICE

Ulio posted:

Thinking back to the first episode. Deepfake would definitely solve that easily.

deepfake was actually secretly developed in the case of a national anthem type situation.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

Someone call the Chancellery Guard. Commander Maxil's out of uniform. AGAIN.

Ulio posted:

Thinking back to the first episode. Deepfake would definitely solve that easily.

They literally planned to do that but got stopped.

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014


Nietzsche posted:

Watched all four series over a couple weeks. A neat thing I realized from Shut Up and Dance! The name of the anti-malware software Kenny downloaded was Shrive, which sounded familiar, so I looked it up.


Appropriate! I love things like that.

Hahaha because priests

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Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

You're right, that wouldn't be very heroic of me. It's a good thing I never called myself a hero!



Just finished Series 4. It had its moments and a couple of standout episodes, but it definitely seems like they're running out of ideas.

USS Callister: Good poo poo, loved the setting and direction. As a goon, I am very concerned with this episode's portrayal of socially awkward nerds.
Arkangel: Episode was solid, ending was a bit poo poo. Would have been better if they'd stuck with one of the two obvious conclusions instead of kinda going down the middle.
Crocodile: I thought it was the weakest episode, but I loved the 90 pound lady being some kind of super ninja with a penchant for stealth kills and killing guys three times her size with her bare hands.
Hang the DJ: I liked the leads well enough, but the framework was weak as hell. Coach is my favorite series villain, though.
Metalhead: Definitely the most different episode. I liked the contrast between the artsy noir direction and the adorable dog terminator. It could have done with even less dialogue.
Black Museum: What if White Christmas, but instead of being bright and cheerful, the atmosphere is dark and oppressive? It wasn't bad or anything, but it really didn't need to hit all the same plot beats as a previous episode in a less creative way. Bonus shout out to Jack for being the dumbest fucker on the planet.

Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at Feb 18, 2018 around 08:45

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