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Sony has not had a good couple of weeks. On November 24th, hackers broke into its computer networks and found behind-the-scenes drama e-mails of executives, employee complaints, sensitive financial documents, in-production scripts, and hilariously terrible powerpoints. As Gawker and the like continue to comb through the 40 GBs of files, new revelations continue to come out. For instance, execs Amy Pascal and Scott Rudlin shared a fun little racist email exchange about Barack Obama: quote:Pascal: What should I ask the president at this stupid Jeffrey [Katzenberg] breakfast? One of the more fun ones that's been getting some attention on the forums is the Spider-Man clusterfuck. There have been rumors leaking out for months about Sony trying to figure out what to do with their sole current franchise.Will it be an animated comedy from Lord and Miller?Will they be working with Marvel in some capacity? Has Andrew Garfield already been fired?Now it looks like they're just going to go ahead and reboot the whole thing again. There is also word that Sony headquarters is pissed with how Spider-Man is being handled, and may re-open negotiations with Marvel. And of course, there's The Interview, which may have motivated the attack from a political standpoint, and which Sony has been distancing themselves from. However, with all this buzz surrounding the film due to the leak, I suspect that may not be the plan anymore. Fingers crossed for not having a movie incite a war! Today my favorite revelation is that Sony wanted to sue Bill Murray for not appearing in Ghostbusters 3. There really is just so much information out there now, and it doesn't seem like it's slowing down. So let's talk about how Jennifer Lawrence's e-mail address is peanutbutt, how Amy Pascal is probably on the chopping block, how Aaron Sorkin is broke, and how Angelina Jolie is a "minimally talented spoiled brat". feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Paul Reiser, sincere as they come http://gawker.com/the-saddest-email-paul-reiser-wants-more-mad-about-you-1668769519
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Dec 14, 2014 06:07
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I'm really curious how Aaron Sorkin, who makes 5 million a movie and writes them concurrently alongside his HBO show, can be broke like to the point of not being able to afford his daughter's college tuition. I know cocaine is the gimmick response but I'm genuinely curious where all that money goes. That's Nicolas Cage levels of fiduciary recklessness. It explains both of their work ethics though.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:17
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Cage was gambling and buying castles and poo poo, right? You can lose money pretty fast in real estate.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:29
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You forget about the Jump Street and Men In Black crossover by Lord & Miller. It's probably the best thing revealed by the leaks.
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Dec 14, 2014 09:31
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Nice, I was wondering when someone was going to make a thread. I think the greatest / saddest thing to come out so far was that terrible email regarding Spider-Man and the MCU. "we need to be able to make sm movies" They're so desperate to keep Spidey, but are still (probably) wondering why a lot of people have no faith in their vision. I love it.
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Dec 14, 2014 10:51
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Nintendo's collaboration with Sony on a Mario movie can only end one way- with Nintendo pulling out halfway through to do something else, leaving Sony to push ahead with a product that dominates them for more than a decade.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:10
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These leaks are really fascinating, in a trainwreck sort of way. It shouldn't be surprising how lost those execs are about most things, but somehow it is. The whole Spider-Man situation is really amazing. They have no idea what to do with it when in reality it should be one of the easiest characters to do. I'd love to see a leak like this happen to Warner Bros. though, especially now that they are trying to build their own DC Universe; just to see how lost they are with it. Also, making a Bond film with a 300+ million dollar budget, without a proper third act and under a year until the premiere when the shooting has just started seems promising. Is this really the norm of moviemaking in Hollywood or is Sony just loving up really bad?
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According to this terribly written, unclear Daily Mail article, Sony may have just shut down all filming. That can't literally mean all filming, can it? e: Nevermind. Sounded like bullshit, was bullshit. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Dec 14, 2014 11:35
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There's also this horrific story of racism and sexual harassment by a high ranking Sony executive.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:42
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Skwirl posted:There's also this horrific story of racism and sexual harassment by a high ranking Sony executive. Jesus loving Christ.  We're all watching Sony slowly bleed to death, aren't we?
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Dec 14, 2014 11:50
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Mash posted:Jesus loving Christ. it's more like gushing
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Dec 14, 2014 12:27
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Most of this stuff is minor- those powerpoint presentations, for example, are really not that unusual. lovely powerpoints are half the fun of powerpoints and those graphics are awesome. I'd be more interested in a pitch with some sort of taco headed monster trying to eat a naive baby. But it all looks bad from the outside and I cannot imagine the damage control this thing is taking. A lot of insiders that don't work for Sony are getting smeared by association and that sounds up there among the worst things that can happen for your film business.
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Dec 14, 2014 12:35
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Yeah this thing is like the Burn Book of Hollywood being opened up. I don't see any of the top execs surviving this because of so many burnt bridges and behind the scenes gossip.
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I find it equal parts hilarious and depressing that we're at the point where even hackers care more about behind-the-scenes drama of the entertainment industry than the workings of the actual government.Mash posted:Jesus loving Christ. Sony has been hemorrhaging money from a lot of its entertainment divisions since consumer electronics like TVs are now a race to the bottom and their attempt to break into the smart phone market has been a huge failure. The Playstation division has been carrying it for awhile, which is the exact opposite of what Microsoft is going through with Xbox being a black hole of money and resources.
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Dec 14, 2014 14:37
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How delusional do you have to be to make such grand plans for an M. Night movie even back in 2012. Were 2 years enough for them to forget The Last Airbender?
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This one is great: http://gawker.com/channing-tatum-wr...dium=socialflow
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Dec 14, 2014 14:54
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TrixRabbi posted:This one is great: 
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Dec 14, 2014 14:57
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I spotted in this image the face of that Marine guy from Starcraft 2 and what looks like an action figure of Garrus from Mass Effect.
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Dec 14, 2014 15:04
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This entire saga has been fascinating and I want it to go on and on forever.  The Spider-Man stuff just reeks of desperation.TrixRabbi posted:This one is great: Also Jonah Hill describing Jump Street In Black as "clean and rad and powerful" sounds like an @dril quote I swear to God.
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Dec 14, 2014 15:24
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TrixRabbi posted:This one is great: That is beautiful. Put him and Jonah Hill on charge of Sony Entertainment and film it. Then let them hire the rest of the crew like Seth Rogan and James Franco for the sequel. Film it. Bam! Billions of dollars.
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Dec 14, 2014 16:20
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It might be fun to see Spider-Man among the Avengers, but aren't they already a little crowded? It was hard enough balancing five heroes in the first movie.
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The leaks about Spectre are pretty worrying. One: how the gently caress does a Bond movie need a budget of well over $300 million? You could build a real rocket base inside a volcano, complete with monorail, for that. Two: did they seriously use an Austin Powers gag as the big twist? Christoph Waltz's character, who may or may not be Blofeld (the script doesn't name him as such, but the execs call him that) is Bond's brother. Okay, foster-brother, but whatever. Three: as recently as last month, the Sony execs thought the third act was terrible and everyone was scrambling to come up with something that A: would work, B: the audience would understand, and C: had actual stakes. Considering that the film is now shooting, it seems dubious that they've solved all the problems. Also it looks like it'll be continuing the Craig movies' trend of being GRITTY with Bond as a burned-out husk of a man going through mid-life crisis who regularly fucks up his assignments and generally fails at everything except killing.  Which judging from Skyfall's success a lot of people like, but hey, I'm a Roger Moore fan.
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Dec 14, 2014 17:02
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The Spider-Man stuff is just what's been happening for the last few years. They all make their Spider-Man movie in which all the execs and Avi Arad (Mostly him) make the decisions, and then don't seem to understand why they're not that successful. Jettison Arad for a start. Sadly it seems that Andrew Garfield wouldn't be a part of it, which is a great shame because those movies, while not very good, completely lose their best asset.
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Payndz posted:The leaks about Spectre are pretty worrying. One: how the gently caress does a Bond movie need a budget of well over $300 million? You could build a real rocket base inside a volcano, complete with monorail, for that. Two: did they seriously use an Austin Powers gag as the big twist? Christoph Waltz's character, who may or may not be Blofeld (the script doesn't name him as such, but the execs call him that) is Bond's brother. Okay, foster-brother, but whatever. Three: as recently as last month, the Sony execs thought the third act was terrible and everyone was scrambling to come up with something that A: would work, B: the audience would understand, and C: had actual stakes. Considering that the film is now shooting, it seems dubious that they've solved all the problems. If they want to crib from the 90s they should just use The World Is Not Enough's twist and have Blofeld just be a figurehead and Monica Bellucci or Léa Seydoux be the evil mastermind.
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How many times can we have "evil mastermind is actually the hero's brother/friend/ex-partner" in a franchise or in espionage movies in general?
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Payndz posted:Three: as recently as last month, the Sony execs thought the third act was terrible and everyone was scrambling to come up with something that A: would work, B: the audience would understand, and C: had actual stakes. Considering that the film is now shooting, it seems dubious that they've solved all the problems. And now they don't have the writer strike as the excuse. Instead, they are going to blame the on-set rewrites on this very leak because abloo abloo artistic integrity and spoiler sancity.
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King Vidiot posted:How many times can we have "evil mastermind is actually the hero's brother/friend/ex-partner" in a franchise or in espionage movies in general? It's sort of a staple of the computer parts fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Dec 14, 2014 17:45
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Payndz posted:The leaks about Spectre are pretty worrying. One: how the gently caress does a Bond movie need a budget of well over $300 million? It's an effects-heavy film with a seven-month shooting schedule, involving a lot of expensive location shooting, that will need an incredibly accelerated post-production process because it's getting released next October. It isn't cheap to put together a spectacle movie like Bond in ten months.
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Pretty much the same applied to The Spy Who Loved Me back in 1976, though (rushed production because of studio/production company troubles, major foreign shooting, major script rewrites, massive stunts and sets) and that still only cost $14m - inflation adjusted, about $60m. I know that's far from an exact equivalent, but we're still talking a third of a billion dollars for something that sure as hell isn't going to be five times more spectacular than TSWLM.
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Payndz posted:Pretty much the same applied to The Spy Who Loved Me back in 1976, though (rushed production because of studio/production company troubles, major foreign shooting, major script rewrites, massive stunts and sets) and that still only cost $14m - inflation adjusted, about $60m. I know that's far from an exact equivalent, but we're still talking a third of a billion dollars for something that sure as hell isn't going to be five times more spectacular than TSWLM. Daniel Craig is being paid $15 million for this film alone ($15 million for the next film too).
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Dec 14, 2014 18:37
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You could pay Craig, Sam Mendes, Barbara Broccoli, Michael Wilson, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade $15 million each and the money left over in Spectre's budget would still pay for Avatar.
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Payndz posted:You could pay Craig, Sam Mendes, Barbara Broccoli, Michael Wilson, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade $15 million each and the money left over in Spectre's budget would still pay for Avatar. But you wouldn't have any money to make The Spy who Loved Me.
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Dec 14, 2014 19:29
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computer parts posted:But you wouldn't have any money to make The Spy who Loved Me.
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My concerns with Spectre aren't the script (I trust Sam Mendes and his team to figure that out) or the budget (Hollywood accounting LOL), but that Christoph Waltz as Blofeld was set to die in the climax. I need that man in like 15 more Bond movies, dammit!!! It's not much of a criminal organization if he gets killed off in the first movie. 
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Dec 14, 2014 20:04
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I hope that there's something in the leak about The Boondocks and what really happened with Aaron McGruder in the last season. The fact that they didn't announce that he wasn't involved until a month before Season 4 started airing makes me think that something really interesting happened behind the scenes. There's been stuff about their TV division in the leaks (something about execs freaking out about a DVD extra leaking) so I wouldn't be surprised if some of this comes out.
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Dec 14, 2014 20:05
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Do people still think North Korea was behind it? I doubted it at first because the hackers seemed like a typically lame Anonymous-type group but the scope of the leak was so massive and apparently the code was written in Korean.
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I find it amusing that the DPRK could be as fed up with Adam Sandler movies as we are.
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DPRK is pissed that Sony is publishing The Interview. Also, if you think North Koreans hate the U.S., you should hear their opinion of the Japanese.
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Cacator posted:Do people still think North Korea was behind it? I doubted it at first because the hackers seemed like a typically lame Anonymous-type group but the scope of the leak was so massive and apparently the code was written in Korean. I doubt the hackers are anything but Anonymous-types, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were paid by North Korea.
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