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Bifauxnen posted:Waiting to hear what some others have got to say before I cast any votes, but we do need to get a successful lynch going today. No more reason to sit on our hands. Bifauxnen posted:Still need to hear from Freudian Slip who hasn't checked in yet, or Beet, and notably, Splode. (even if his story checks out as one-shot town doc, I'd reallylike to hear his take on things after yesterday) Bifauxnen posted:Well what have you got on hooman except that he's been quiet? I like taking out quiet players though, so if one of them is the only bandwagon we can get going, I'll chip in. I like being on hammer duty too if no one else wants it. Bifauxnen posted:There are others who have been just as quiet as hooman, or more so. So I don't know if Mills is just picking one at random to fish for a reaction or what. I'm all up for voting out a quiet player, but out of the quiet ones I'm feeling more suss about Freudian Slip since his only contribution was easy agreement with Ludlam, possibly just when it suited him to join the Mills bandwagon. Now Mith says she's going to do a similar strategy, but I don't think it's quite as fishy since she wasn't all: "okay, time to vote with Ludlam, oh wait, he unvoted, let me unvote too, must act at the exact same time but not any of the other 2 times Ludlam already voted for someone else" Bifauxnen posted:Voting is the ideologically correct thing to do Bifauxnen posted:all the lonely posters Bifauxnen posted:Good on ya Beets, have an election veggie sausage Bifauxnen posted:Ludlam-sama, why have you forsaken us? Bifauxnen posted:well gently caress, just in case everyone decides to pile on in the last couple seconds: I'm pretty confident now on bif being scummy. #1 - came out to bat pretty strongly to defend hooman, when people started to question him. They're either in a Masonry, or scum. #2 - isn't actively scum hunting - lots of idle chatter #3 - lots of pushes to get people to vote, and congratulatory posts when people do. #4 - attempted hammer on Anidav to get the last minute push on him through. #4 is weak admittedly, but the posting history is there. Lots of talk with little content, and pushing to votes with little investigation makes me pretty confident on ##vote bifauxnen (it also makes sense from meta-perspective, considering her personal politics  )
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Bifauxnen posted:Well what have you got on hooman except that he's been quiet? I like taking out quiet players though, so if one of them is the only bandwagon we can get going, I'll chip in. I like being on hammer duty too if no one else wants it. Also, how did I miss this.
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Okay I just don't get this. I tried to put forward the one independent guess I had which was Freudian Slip, not too confident about it but I explained the reasoning for what made it catch my attention. I thought he was using following in lockstep with known town Ludlam as an excuse, but he conveniently only started doing that once bowmore voted for Mills, who we now know is town. If you think Mills' case for hooman is strong, I'll vote for him. We gotta lynch someone. Unless trying to stick around in the thread to actually cast any votes is scummy or something.
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I am a bit suss on Bif, but also Anidav. It could be his beginner's bad luck and he's just poo poo at game, but the scum could be using him to deflect suspicion away from the experienced players, without being too suss himself because he has the noob excuse. I reckon one is town, one is mafia. Tithin's post has me leaning towards Bif.
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tithin posted:#rekt This is the worst bit of grand standing I've ever seen. What does your opinion matter when no one can validate you're town yet?
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Mills, how can I go on without you!? Too bad I'm not a http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lover
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GM Note: TOML has been moved to observer status as he is for reals away on a romantic trip. This affects game numbers.
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Kommando posted:GM Note: What? Couldn't Jumpingmanjim swap in for him or something, since he was looking to get added in anyway? If TOML is town and we're down another one just like that, that's just ugh.
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You can also do replacements in votefinder. So, for example, one of the scrubs that didn't sign up in time could easily take over.
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Matthew Beet posted:This is the worst bit of grand standing I've ever seen. What does your opinion matter when no one can validate you're town yet? Good question! It doesn't.
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Seriously Tithin you're looking really suss now. We've got ~ 10 hours to deadline and instead of waiting to see if there's any concrete evidence from anyone (eg an investigator / cop / tracker / whatever) you've dived in hard to try and direct everyone onto bifauxnen and stop any real discussion today? Why are you trying to rush this? Your evidence is based on a bunch of posts, which come to think of it is pretty much all you had against anidav yesterday. IMO Anidav is still a better candidate than Bif. You on the other hand now are at the top of my list. Way to go captain sussburger. ##vote tithin
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Bifauxnen posted:Okay I just don't get this. I tried to put forward the one independent guess I had which was Freudian Slip, not too confident about it but I explained the reasoning for what made it catch my attention. I thought he was using following in lockstep with known town Ludlam as an excuse, but he conveniently only started doing that once bowmore voted for Mills, who we now know is town. Honestly, what set me suspicious when doing the re-read more than anything else is that you only started on Freudian once Mills' made a point for hooman, which makes me suspicious that you two are connected in someway. Hence commentary that you're either mason'd, or scum. I'm leaning scum because of the lack of actual commentary that you're doing, attempts to start bandwagons, and refusing to vote yourself until something starts. quote:If you think Mills' case for hooman is strong, I'll vote for him. We gotta lynch someone. Unless trying to stick around in the thread to actually cast any votes is scummy or something. I don't think Mills' case for hooman is strong, but it's interesting to see who leapt to his defence, and who subsequently is leaping to yours.
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tithin posted:Good question! Do you have any evidence? Do you have a special role? I don't think so. You've gone from captain neutral on d1 to cautiously voting d2 to 100%. Why? You got nothing to back this up except you're trying too hard to play the middle and look reasonable.
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Matthew Beet posted:Seriously Tithin you're looking really suss now. I'm not trying to rush anything hoss, I'm putting in my vote because, after reading back through the post history, I'm pretty convinced that she's scum.  confident enough to level a vote. quote:Why are you trying to rush this? Your evidence is based on a bunch of posts, which come to think of it is pretty much all you had against anidav yesterday. IMO Anidav is still a better candidate than Bif. The gently caress else are we supposed to base it on?
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Ugggh what happened to the vote for Anidav anyway, wasn't that going to be really solid if just a couple more people had shown up? Maybe we need to start throwing some actual votes out to get things started for real though today. ##vote hooman for the hell of it. Like I said, I follow the thread a lot so if you guys get a bandwagon going on anybody else I will happily swap my vote to make a lynch happen today. (if it ends up being me strung up today though, I'll go peacefully if you let Ludlam do it  )
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tithin posted:
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Bifauxnen posted:
I have no opinion on hooman. why are you voting hooman? Only to try clear your name? [quote] Ugggh what happened to the vote for Anidav anyway, wasn't that going to be really solid if just a couple more people had shown up? [/quote A good question which I've asked and tithin has ignored.
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Coincidentally, if you genuinely think I'm scum, go back and do a re-read. Point out what in particular you think is scummy and why, rather than getting shifty because I'm genuinely scumhunting, and pointed the finger at someone you don't like. we've had two days of nil movement - and as bowmore has pointed out, town don't win games where we don't kill anyone at all.
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Matthew Beet posted:A good question which I've asked and tithin has ignored. There's nothing to answer. There was insufficient people to pass the vote for him, therefore he wasn't lynched. I do like how you and bif are both pushing really hard to get back to Anidav as scum, without actually addressing any of the concerns I raised in my post. Nice way to tie yourselves together.
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tithin posted:Coincidentally, if you genuinely think I'm scum, go back and do a re-read. Point out what in particular you think is scummy and why, rather than getting shifty because I'm genuinely scumhunting, and pointed the finger at someone you don't like. I have done a re-read. You've chopped and changed from anidav to bif for no real great reason at all. You're saying she was too eager to vote for a lynch. What are you doing right now boss? I jumped on the anidav vote because he was suss and we needed a lynch yesterday or a second day would pass with no town actions. Now we're down 2 townies and we've learnt nothing.
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Matthew Beet posted:I have done a re-read. You've chopped and changed from anidav to bif for no real great reason at all. You're saying she was too eager to vote for a lynch. What are you doing right now boss? Honestly, I think that the reasons I've stated - without being redressed, which they haven't, are strong enough to make me think "yeah, bif is scummy". quote:I jumped on the anidav vote because he was suss and we needed a lynch yesterday or a second day would pass with no town actions. Now we're down 2 townies and we've learnt nothing. Hardly either of our faults for the nolynch on day 2 when we both voted hey?
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my instincts are still saying anidav and i'm pretty bewildered that tithin is defending him like this we've lost two town power roles, how are we still bickering about it?
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tithin posted:There's nothing to answer. Tieing myself together my arse. I have no opinion on her yet and she's not on my radar much (except for what you've raised) and I've even asked her why she's voted for hooman out of the blue? I'm still waiting on that answer too. You spent 5 posts early in the game saying how scummy mills was then out of the blue 'Oh I'm clear on Mills now' and don't explain why. How do I know your town tithin? If you can give me something better I'll recast my vote.
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JUST LYNCH SOMEBODY, GOD I didn't see much special about hooman. FS kinda caught my attention, hooman never did until Mills brought it up. But neither case looked too serious compared to Anidav really actively waffling, which everyone else seemed to agree with since no one else seemed to care about either the FS or hooman case. (except FS himself obviously) I put forward the one new thing I had to contribute, I was never too sure about it, if everyone else thinks it's bullshit I don't care about dropping it, it's been said and it's out there in case it turns out to be important later. Tithin, if the main thing bugging you is the possible link to hooman, it's honestly not there. If you need me to lynch him to prove that, I'm perfectly fine with that. But you don't seem to think he's actually worth lynching. I didn't either!
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Milky Moor posted:my instincts are still saying anidav and i'm pretty bewildered that tithin is defending him like this Don't take my vote for bif, as a defence of anidav. I suspect Bif for what I feel I have shown as good reason.
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tithin posted:Don't take my vote for bif, as a defence of anidav. I suspect Bif for what I feel I have shown as good reason. whatever, i'm sticking to my guns on this one. anidav is suss, has continued to be suss, now we're down two power roles and you're trying to deflect from him onto bif for some reason. ##vote anidav
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Matthew Beet posted:Tieing myself together my arse. I have no opinion on her yet and she's not on my radar much (except for what you've raised) and I've even asked her why she's voted for hooman out of the blue? I'm still waiting on that answer too. I can't give you anything that will absolutely clear me as town. I have no role to investigate, and can only rely on post histories. Looking at posting history for Bif makes me really suspicious for the reasons I've said. I was suspicious of mills at the start because I'm suspicious of everyone at the start.
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tithin posted:Honestly, I think that the reasons I've stated - without being redressed, which they haven't, are strong enough to make me think "yeah, bif is scummy". Us voting really doesn't absolve us dude. I'm not sold on your reasons for Bif, I think you've come on too strong too early when we've got time for others to check in with evidence. Milky Moor posted:my instincts are still saying anidav and i'm pretty bewildered that tithin is defending him like this Same, but the longer tithin argues the more sure I am on him being suss.
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Beet, as for why I've voted for hooman out of the blue, the reason is "why the hell not". I'm not linked to hooman and don't know how else to show it. It probably won't go anywhere but what else can I do? If you don't think he's worth voting for then I don't care, I'll change the vote. I was waiting around yesterday and that's apparently scummy. I'm active and watching the thread. If we get a lynch train going I will join it.
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And we all just ignore anidav too. noice work tithin. Were you trying misdirection yesterday?
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tithin posted:I can't give you anything that will absolutely clear me as town. I'm not questioning you being suspicious of everyone at hte start, i'm questioning (but not overly suspicious) of how quickly you cleared him. You were right, it just seemed odd though. quote:
Fair enough, I'm not sold on that idea though. Someone else was chopping and changing opinions yesterday and nearly got 6 votes.
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##unvote
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Vote for who you wish for. I'm genuinely town, trying to hunt out scum. Apparently that's scummy. The irony isn't lost on me
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Nah, I don't think the act of scum hunting is scummy. Just trying to point out where it's actually wrong since in my own case I at least know what's going on. 
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i am hungover as gently caress please dont kill me i will not be posting much to defend myself i just woke up and my mouth tastes like wine and happy new year goons i will slee[p now
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##vote tithin I think he is scum
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tithin posted:Vote for who you wish for. It's your reasoning and how you've gone about it. I can write it out a few more times for you if you want?
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