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HulkaMatt posted:RAW was really good and the last segment was good and then they decided to go back to THE SAME loving HEEL AUTHORITY FIGURES after them being off TV for ONE loving MONTH. Agree word for word but I can't hate too much because the performances were so well executed. WWE wouldn't really have Reigns win a Rumble with a returning Bryan, would they? They'd ruin Reigns's face career for the foreseeable future. I hope they do Brock/Bryan for the title, Cena/Reigns with Reigns going over, and Ambrose/Rollins with Ambrose getting the win.
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So in case anyone was thinking "Boy, that Sami Zayn shirt Edge was wearing is cool, I should pick one up!", hope you're obese because the only size available is 5XL.
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SamuraiFoochs in 2013 posted:WWE wouldn't really have Batista win a Rumble with Daniel Bryan around, would they? They'd ruin Batista's face career for the foreseeable future.
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Incontrovertible proof that Foochs will never ever learn and always think too highly of this loving tire fire of a company. All hail Jeff Jarrett and all hail NJPW.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I hope they do Brock/Bryan for the title, Cena/Reigns with Reigns going over, and Ambrose/Rollins with Ambrose getting the win. Please let Ambrose/Rollins go away forever or work a Dear God Why trios match of Ambrose/Usos vs. Rollins/Dusts.
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Dec 30, 2014 07:14
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Blast Fantasto posted:So in case anyone was thinking "Boy, that Sami Zayn shirt Edge was wearing is cool, I should pick one up!", hope you're obese because the only size available is 5XL. Lucky for me, then! 
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Dec 30, 2014 07:18
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That was way the gently caress different and you're obtuse if you think otherwise. It wasn't not dumb, but it was very, very different. Also good call, bet they feed Rusev to Reigns at Mania. I actually think that'd be a very smart idea and a way to elevate Reigns while leaving smarks and non-smarks alike probably happy in general re: Reigns's career trajectory. Leaves me to question what Cena does though, unless he's Vince's rep against The Authority or whatever..
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Agree word for word but I can't hate too much because the performances were so well executed. You can hate when they're all over the show doing the same performances they've been doing for the last year and a half though.
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HulkaMatt posted:You can hate when they're all over the show doing the same performances they've been doing for the last year and a half though. I more meant Rollins especially. That was loving wonderful heeling. Paper Lion posted:Incontrovertible proof that Foochs will never ever learn and always think too highly of this loving tire fire of a company. All hail Jeff Jarrett and all hail NJPW. I know NJPW is great and all, but I really hate posts like this. I'm not being sarcastic, I totally concede NJPW has the best wrestling product in the world but I like enjoying WWE a solid 75% of the time thanks much.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:That was way the gently caress different and you're obtuse if you think otherwise. It wasn't not dumb, but it was very, very different. HHH to get rid of the authority again? Tag with Sting?
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:THRICE IN A LIFETIME Sting is in a really loving weird spot. I think they wanna leave it open to slot him in somewhere but I doubt they have anything locked with him, nor should they.
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Dec 30, 2014 07:33
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Instead of like one authority figure on the show, what if there were say five authority figures, each with equal power and shaky alignments. There could be weird power struggles and temporary alliances, blackmail and personal wars turning into huge angles as each figure's allied wrestlers went to war with each other. And then Vince could get rid of it after four weeks because it's too complicated dammit, people don't want to watch that. Put the Bunny back on the air.
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sting/triple h looked like a lock with the ending to survivor series and then the article on wwe dot com that called it the ultimate dream match for sting in wwe unless this is some kind of long-term fakeout for sting/taker
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Blast Fantasto posted:So in case anyone was thinking "Boy, that Sami Zayn shirt Edge was wearing is cool, I should pick one up!", hope you're obese because the only size available is 5XL. Finally, a shirt for me, the wrestlefan who can only enjoy indie darlings.
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If you change the key moment of that final segment from "Cena gives in to Rollins" to "Randy Orton sneaks in and RKOs Rollins while everyone is staring down Cena", it's about 1000x better.
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Dec 30, 2014 07:48
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Blast Fantasto posted:So in case anyone was thinking "Boy, that Sami Zayn shirt Edge was wearing is cool, I should pick one up!", hope you're obese because the only size available is 5XL. The NXT shirts have been sold out since after that PPV.
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Daniel Bryan went to a doctor in Denver to get fixed
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hahahaha WWE is a garbage company with bad writers and worse booking
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oatgan posted:sting/triple h looked like a lock with the ending to survivor series and then the article on wwe dot com that called it the ultimate dream match for sting in wwe unless this is some kind of long-term fakeout for sting/taker If they're not just going to feed Rusev to Cena for Mania, maybe they do Cena/HHH and Sting/Taker. Bryan/Lesnar with Seth cashing in after the match, Reigns/Rusev, and those two seems like a pretty solid top of the card. Maybe revisit Ambrose/Rollins earlier in the show to not completely foreshadow Seth taking the belt. But that card would leave Bray out in the cold, as Sting and Taker are his most obvious Mania programs. Maybe he could win the Battle Royale or face Ziggler for the Intercontinental belt, idk. Actually, if Orton comes back as a babyface maybe he and Wyatt could feud, that would be an interesting matchup we haven't seen before. For as stale as the product has been recently, all these returns give them a lot of options to build a pretty great Mania card. I'm excited to see how they gently caress it all up.
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skaboomizzy posted:If you change the key moment of that final segment from "Cena gives in to Rollins" to "Randy Orton sneaks in and RKOs Rollins while everyone is staring down Cena", it's about 1000x better. The way the shot of Seth in the ring kept hanging to the right side made me think that 100%
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skaboomizzy posted:If you change the key moment of that final segment from "Cena gives in to Rollins" to "Randy Orton sneaks in and RKOs Rollins while everyone is staring down Cena", it's about 1000x better. I too love it when new talent gets destroyed to further up and comers like Cena and Orton.
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Pariah Rex posted:I too love it when new talent gets destroyed to further up and comers like Cena and Orton. As opposed to being a proxy to help young buck HHH get over?
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Pariah Rex posted:I too love it when new talent gets destroyed to further up and comers like Cena and Orton. New talent like HHH and Steph, who just obliterated the biggest triumph of Ziggler's career?
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Are people really that upset about something that's been foreshadowed and telegraphed drat near every week since Survivor Series ended?
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Honestly the only way to sort of save it would be to change it so Cena could still choose who would be in charge of Raw and Rollins pulls the double cross on the authority and puts Heyman in charge, or the TRIPLE cross on both parties and makes Cena put him in charge. Like that one Smackdown vs Raw storyline with MVP, Orton and Cena, leading to Orton declaring one of their matches so boring and throwing in a steel chair, winner was the one to knock the other the gently caress out and they got a world championship title shot. What I'm saying is even the goofy video games are better written at this point. And it still shouldn't have been Edge! They grudgingly put up with one another from time to time. Even at Edge's retirement they didn't break character! the last time Edge was on TV with Cena was the Lesnar thing (I think) where he told Cena to stop being a pussy and beat Lesnar because they couldn't let someone who doesn't care about wrestling be the face of it. (Which by the way was still a totally awesome promo and if that had been match of a Cena/Lesnar Program it would have been loving perfection.)
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Onmi posted:Honestly the only way to sort of save it would be to change it so Cena could still choose who would be in charge of Raw and Rollins pulls the double cross on the authority and puts Heyman in charge, or the TRIPLE cross on both parties and makes Cena put him in charge. Maybe Edge was in on it.
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TheJoker138 posted:As opposed to being a proxy to help young buck HHH get over? HHH is the heel authority figure of the day he isn't "going over" and has lost every actual match he's been in for years. As much as we are tired of heel authority figures the WWE loves them to have as a crutch and they aren't going away. skaboomizzy posted:New talent like HHH and Steph, who just obliterated the biggest triumph of Ziggler's career? No evil heel Seth Rollins just got one over on good guys Cena and Ziggler by trumping the last victory they got in this war. Seth winning this time doesn't make Zigglers victory worthless to his career.
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Pariah Rex posted:No evil heel Seth Rollins just got one over on good guys Cena and Ziggler by trumping the last victory they got in this war. Seth winning this time doesn't make Zigglers victory worthless to his career. It totally does make his win worth gently caress all because they were only gone for one loving month.
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Pariah Rex posted:HHH is the heel authority figure of the day he isn't "going over" and has lost every actual match he's been in for years. As much as we are tired of heel authority figures the WWE loves them to have as a crutch and they aren't going away. this is pretty much how I felt about the whole thing. Ziggler still had his moment when it was neccessary and holy poo poo Seth keeps upping the ante on being an evil piece of poo poo.
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ShootaBoy posted:It totally does make his win worth gently caress all because they were only gone for one loving month. So if they were gone for six years and Ziggler spend that entire time losing and shuffling around the midcard before they came back then his victory would have been epic. It's like saying that if the superbowl champ loses the opening game of the following season then the Superbowl victory meant nothing.
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skaboomizzy posted:If you change the key moment of that final segment from "Cena gives in to Rollins" to "Randy Orton sneaks in and RKOs Rollins while everyone is staring down Cena", it's about 1000x better. So you're saying he should've come outta nowhere?
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People are over thinking this Ziggler stuff. He did what he needed to do at the time it needed to be done. What happened tonight had gently caress all to do with Ziggs and was more about making you hate Seth Rollins stupid guts.
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Pariah Rex posted:So if they were gone for six years and Ziggler spend that entire time losing and shuffling around the midcard before they came back then his victory would have been epic. Yes.
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In your example Dolph Ziggler keeping HHH & Stephanie off TV for 6 years would in fact, have meant more than keeping them off TV for a month.
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Also I know they brought the Authority back too early, I agree 100% about that part, but IF they were going to, they wrote it about as perfectly as they could with the Cena/Edge backstage exchange and all that. The earliness of the return aside, I dunno how you execute it any better. It was well written, just happened too fast, i.e. E&C should've hosted a later Raw, maybe the night after the Rumble (unless Cena is beating Brock in which case  )
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