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pentyne posted:I'd like to petition to add Ravane and Irish Joe to rule 3. I second this motion.
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The Good Wife should've been a lot higher. But it's on CBS, rather than SA's favorite network, the CW, so there's no way 90% of the posters in this forum will ever watch it. It is the least CBS show that CBS airs, though. It has procedural elements, but they're wedded to deep characterization, moral ambiguity, and an actual understanding of how modern technology works.
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Jan 2, 2015 19:23
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Jan 2, 2015 19:28
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IRQ posted:Ok, who wants to talk about the BSG/LOST finale and what utter garbage it was? I disagree, the BSG and LOST finales were both pinnacles of the artistic medium of TV.
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Jan 3, 2015 19:46
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Sophia posted:Someone name a TV show where they liked its ending and also genuinely liked the show (i.e. the ending can't be liked because it was simply put out of its misery like a dying dog). 30 Rock, for sure. I mean, it had a few rocky seasons, but there's so much to love about it, and the last season was amazing, with the last scene in particular paying off a long running joke in a sublimely surreal way.
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Jan 4, 2015 21:35
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My sister won't watch Supernatural because she's heard it's misogynist, and if you tell her something's misogynist, she will take your word for it and do no due diligence to confirm it. Supernatural is pretty misogynist, though. It keeps killing off heroic supporting female characters, and then every other supporting female character is a textbook case of the Monstrous Feminine. And Sam and Dean have so many disposable love interests throughout the series. And it relies on a bunch of sexist tropes. But Mystery Spot and Changing Channels are amazing. and Swan Song is the best series finale that didn't actually end the series (I haven't seen anything beyond it).
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Jan 27, 2015 19:53
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Men get confused by women liking dudes like Cumberbatch and Hiddleston because men are primarily driven by physical appearance in terms of how they rate attractiveness, and many cannot conceive of any other metric for rating attractiveness. This is not necessarily biological as much as it is due to societal gender roles that encourage guys to think of attractiveness in the shallowest terms possible. Women, on the other hand, tend to be socialized in a way where they determine attractiveness by a combination of physical appearance and more intangible factors such as charisma and reliability. Some women are even willing to completely ignore the physical aspect because the man in question fulfills so many of their other criteria; the whole Aphrodite and Hephaestus situation (or for people who never studied Greek mythology, the sitcom trope of the fat guy with the hot wife). So, while Cumberbatch and Hiddleston are not necessarily examples of peak physical perfection, they have a certain magnetism that makes them attractive to women. That dudes keep bitching about women being attracted to Cumberbatch and Hiddleston shows remarkable lack of awareness on their part, and more than a little pathetic jealousy. Some seem to want it to be the case that women are shallow, only interested in looks, because it would then explain why they have little success with women, and would also prove women inferior to men. When women are shallow, it tends to be in different, more functional ways; that is, they look for men of high socioeconomic status, or at least a guy with a reliable, decently paying job. In general, a lot of the problems guys in modern Western societies are having with dating stems from the fact that men's standards have not evolved with the times fast enough, and that many of them are either accidentally or willfully ignorant of what women actually find attractive in a guy. This is all a long way of saying that it's really loving simple understanding why women find men like Cumberbatch attractive, not some sort of complex problem of the kind only Sherlock could solve.
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Jan 28, 2015 02:34
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xeria posted:I'm a girl and Butterscotch Candysnack still looks goofy. I never disputed that. I was in fact suggesting his appeal is not really about his appearance at all, but rather something about his demeanor, or rather about the demeanor of the character he plays very well, because the actual Benjamin Cobblepot seems like just kind of a boring normal guy if you watch his interviews. also I haven't watched beyond the first few episodes of season 2, but Elementary has a way more interesting reinterpretation of Holmes than Sherlock. The British series is pretty much just a modern, tech'd up version with Holmes's rear end in a top hat characteristics jacked up to 11. He is a weirdo superhuman sociopath. And the Holmes-Watson relationship is actual pretty drat similar to the original stories, except for some omg are they gay? isn't that funny? WAIT NO NO HOMO NO HOMO! Also it's a little regressive in terms of its view of women (even Joss Whedon would have a hard time stomaching the proposition that that Irene Adler was a good female character) By contrast, Elementary does the radical move of recasting Sherlock Holmes as a human being, and then is also fairly gender-progressive. It makes Watson a woman AND eventually Holmes's equal and necessary partner. It has a better Irene Adler, for sure. Spatula City fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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The episode with the lactokinetic guy is in season 2 of Misfits, so that's wrong. and then season 3 has the alternate history Nazi episode, right? So. I sort of fell off watching Misfits midway through season 3 though, partly because I missed The Best Character so much. Although Rudy was loving great from what I saw.
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Jan 29, 2015 07:30
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It's taken me a while to realize it, but season 3 of Arrow really isn't particularly good. Even its best moment, the end of "The Climb", hasn't been payed off that well in the subsequent two episodes that have aired so far. What's weirdest is that I've realized my least favorite characters at the moment are actually Felicity and Diggle. Well, obviously Thea as well, who I have realized will never not be terrible.
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Jan 30, 2015 23:58
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raditts posted:Wait, Laurel doesn't rank in there anywhere?! I don't expect much from her anymore, and her trying to be a hero and consistently getting the poo poo kicked out of her is loving HILARIOUS. That's one of the few good calls the producers have made, not letting her be remotely competent at crimefighting. So I'm kind of grading on a curve. Laurel for me now is providing more actual enjoyment than Felicity or Diggle. And Roy is somehow now the best? at least we have Vinnie Jones. 
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Jan 31, 2015 20:35
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AOS is not a good show, but it is a show that I watch and derive some enjoyment from. I'm kinda baffled at how some people here have decided to pretend it's anything more than semi-competent escapism. Bill Paxton was great on it, though, and Kyle Maclachlan owns all of the bones that there are. and Adrianne Palicki is stunningly beautiful, as is the actress that plays Simmons. Pillowpants posted:I need a show to be recommended to me. do you have Amazon Prime? Prime has The Good Wife. That sounds like something you both might enjoy. I also kind of liked Damages, which is on Netflix. It's very uneven, but it has some high highs. also watch Fringe.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:53
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 I'm in the middle of season 3 of Scandal. I could not possibly defend this show as great, but it's bananas insane in a way I haven't seen before, except for maybe in American Horror Story. It has no functional understanding of how the presidency or spycraft or politics actually work, and the result is glorious nonsense. It is really frustrating though whenever it goes into the FORBIDDEN LOVE bullshit, which just creeps me out because it's such a dysfunctional, borderline abusive relationship.
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Feb 14, 2015 10:01
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DivisionPost posted:Think of the love story less as a love story and more as drug addiction. Even Shonda Rhimes has said it's not supposed to be a healthy, rootable relationship, and the only reason it plays like one is we're in Olivia's POV, where she can't help but go askew over this one thing. It's pretty frustrating, though, because Olivia has the potential to be a hyper-competent badass, but Fitz has just completely hosed that up. And he's an emotionally manipulative spoiled little boy. Last episode I watched, Evil Papa Pope brutally eviscerated him (verbally, not literally, though I'm sure he would've if he could've), explaining just how much of a spoiled, entitled, pathetic little poo poo Fitz was. It was magical, and Joe Morton deserves all of the awards for it. Every time Olivia starts to do the smart thing and try to disentangle herself from Fitz, he abuses his power as president to force her to meet him, and then, yet again, emotionally manipulates her into sex. This is beyond hosed. Fitz is Scandal's real monster. And he just keeps getting away with it. The other frustrating thing is that Fitz's two closest advisers would both be far better presidents. Cyrus and Mellie are both monstrous, but they're at least adults, and aware of their own hosed-upped-ness. But I suppose that's purposeful, because Shonda Rhimes is trying to make a Big Statement about how loving awful the world is about who they'll accept as leaders. Give them a rich handsome white guy, and practically nothing else matters. But brilliant, strong-willed people like Mellie and Cyrus are relegated to behind-the-scenes operators purely by accidents of their birth. And of course by being part of a political party that somehow seems to cluster the most virulent strains of essentialism within it. Even Sally Langston, who is insane, would've been a better president than Fitz. FOR THAT MATTER, Reston, who also murdered someone, would have been better.
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Feb 14, 2015 20:32
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Irish Joe posted:Slapping/Spanking a unruly child is not abuse and calling it abuse is a slap in the face to every child who has actually been abused. There are levels of abuse, and slapping/spanking is usually low on the scale. But it kind of depends on the parent and how much force is applied. One interesting thing I learned in a Psychology class was that corporal punishment tends to be healthier with black families (but there are definitely exceptions), because the force applied is less, it isn't done in anger quite as often, and black parents don't feel guilty about it. On the other hand, it tends to be more damaging in white families because the parents feel deeply guilty about it, and tend to do it when they're angry, both factors that lead to more intense force being applied. This isn't a hard and fast rule, but more of a general tendency. What I take away from it, though, is that among the white majority in the US, corporal punishment is executed poorly. It's basic common sense not to hit a child when you are in a rage. But that tends to be when slapping and spanking happens. It doesn't come off to the children as necessary correction. It comes off as MOMMY/DADDY IS HURTING ME. Not to mention, also, that behaviorist psychologists have done a ton of research proving that reward is vastly more effective than punishment, and physical punishment often has the opposite of the desired effect. So even light physical punishment should be used far less frequently than it is currently. Authoritarian parents have an unscientific conviction in the effectiveness of hurting their children as a behavioral corrective, not unlike people's conviction that torture GETS RESULTS DAMMIT.
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Feb 14, 2015 20:54
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zoux posted:Uh doesn't he realize that Walter White Is The Guy You Root For? I will never understand this mindset. Walter White is a pathetic person, and you'd have to fast forward through a lot of scenes to miss that, or be a colossal idiot. Or, I dunno, a violence-desensitized borderline sociopath.
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Feb 23, 2015 21:13
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Fooz posted:I can't understand the mentality of watching that show stewing in repulsion of the main character. Did you read the title of the show? Bad is the product. We know that it's bad. I never "stewed in repulsion". I love the show, I just never watched it seeing Walter as a badass. He's an egomaniacal prick with self-serving justifications for his shittiness, and it is UTTERLY FASCINATING to watch him plunge further and further.
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Feb 24, 2015 06:03
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raditts posted:Seriously, they make it crystal (lol) clear that he is not a good person and that you should not consider him a good person, and I'm only halfway through season 2. Do people seriously think you're supposed to root for him just because he's the main character? Did you suckers who watched Dexter all the way through think the same thing there? Honestly the Dexter supporters were EVEN MORE DISTURBING, considering just how many people he killed, and the sort of insane logic that makes it okay to murder people just as long as they're "bad guys".
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Feb 24, 2015 19:00
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EL BROMANCE posted:I always like and enjoy signing along to the most hated tv theme songs. Including Orange is the New Black. And I sigh whenever they go with the short intro for Mindy Project. I'm sorry. I always liked Psych's theme song. 
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Mar 7, 2015 02:35
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Fooz posted:Kimmy Schmidt is good but damnit I thought I was done with that incredibly obnoxious 30 rock music. I like it because it reminds me of 30 Rock, and makes me nostalgic for it. Kinda makes me want to go back and watch some classic episodes.
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Mar 8, 2015 22:05
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IRQ posted:Grew out of what, not liking a particular director's very defined style? Fine, maybe whatever it even was isn't anything like Wes Anderson's rancid garbage movies. Maybe focus on that and why rather than ridiculing me for nebulous reasons, because that's sure to persuade me. Or should I have grown out of recommendations in this thread entirely or something? I don't get it. No, I believe what was meant by that is a tendency to rapidly jump to conclusions and declare something "not for me" based on minimal information. Which is a thing children and political conservatives do, and grown-ups should, ideally, avoid doing as much as possible.
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Mar 11, 2015 05:48
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:Oh, don't mind me -- I'm just waiting for this to be TV IV's Official Columbo Thread, because goddamn Peter Falk does such an amazing job. Ever since I discovered it on Netflix last summer, Columbo has been my favorite show ever. I love everything about it, especially Peter Falk and THAT CAR. 
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Mar 22, 2015 18:46
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Deadpool posted:My grandfather loved Diagnosis Murder. It was basically appointment viewing. Even for repeats. I remember staying with him and being bored out of mind watching it. I loved Diagnosis Murder when I was a kid. In general, my TV tastes as a kid were like those of a 70 year old retiree, save for the Saturday morning cartoons. Loved JAG, Matlock, Diagnosis Murder, Walker Texas Ranger, Martial Law, and also a number of old shows aired on one of those broadcast retro channels, including Bewitched, Perry Mason, The Andy Griffith Show, I Dream of Jeannie, and Hawaii Five-O. For whatever reason, my favorite contemporary comedy was Frasier.
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Mar 27, 2015 19:59
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Thwomp posted:I don't care if you hate the CW or comic book characters or both but everyone owes it to themselves to catch the latest episode of The Flash. poo poo was bananas and so was Mark Hamill.  Although it does have some obvious flaws endemic to the show (Iris being lied to by everyone for no good reason, some bad minor character casting, cheesy dialogue), but they're easier to ignore than ever before when you have Mark Hamill, Tom Cavanagh, and Jesse L. Martin killing it.
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Ravane posted:I DIDN'T loving CREATE THIS ISSUE!  FWIW, you seem like a decent guy with anger issues, and some people in this forum have been really lovely to you. In general, one of the worst problems endemic to the SA forums is a tendency to assume someone's trolling when they post an opinion with which one happens to vehemently disagree. It's not only paranoid as hell, it's mean, discourages open discussion, and gives the trolls exactly what they want. If trolls exist to sow discord, what could be better for them than getting everyone to be paranoid that everyone else might be "trolling"? The only regular troll in this thread is Irish Joe. ON THE OTHER HAND, dude you need to tone it down. Stop getting mad about things on the internet. Maybe lurk for a few months. I have a bad rep on another forum for the same kind of accidental belligerence, so I keep a low profile here to counter that. I suggest you do the same until you learn to CALM THE gently caress DOWN.
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Apr 4, 2015 22:11
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People lose their minds over GoT because most people don't read dark subversions of High Fantasy, even though there's tons of them out there now. People raised on Lord of the Rings and Star Wars are utterly shocked by the show's brutal twists.
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Apr 13, 2015 18:46
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Disappointingly, I don't think Kirk Acevedo's character in Agents of SHIELD actually died, just got grievously wounded by a tree splintered into bits by a girl with earthquake powers. But he definitely got super-murdered in Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, by an ape.
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May 2, 2015 06:34
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corn in the bible posted:im watching monk good. it's never super great appt. television, but Tony Shalhoub always gave 200% to the role. Sharona was way better than Natalie, tho. I liked the episode where there was a garbage truck driver strike, so the city streets were piled full of trash, and he was SO MISERABLE that he couldn't solve a crime, so they had to take him to the clean room of a chemical lab so he could think.
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May 6, 2015 07:35
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loving lol, NBC has learned absolutely nothing. All of those look terrible. Jaime Alexander deserves a way better vehicle than Generic Mystery Box Series #49
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May 10, 2015 22:57
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zoux posted:Trailer for AMCs new show Humans: huh, William Hurt and the lady from The IT Crowd. Interesting.
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May 12, 2015 05:16
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Sober posted:http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/fox-new-show-trailers-at-794758 Uh, The Grinder looks sort of fun. Rob Lowe's just outright making fun of himself at this point, pretty great. And Rosewood looks cookie-cutter, but maybe also sort of enjoyable? The leads seems to have good chemistry. Making Lucifer a cop show is absurdly disappointing. All the directions you could take that premise in, and you go with cop show? Really? And of course Lucifer is British. And has sexual tension with the no-nonsense lady cop. UGH NETWORK TV SUCKS. Lol, Minority Report is cribbing so hard from the movie, in style and in terms of wanting to be sort of a direct sequel almost? And Frankenstein Code is...huh. Okay. That guy doesn't really look like a young Philip Baker Hall or act sufficiently like him. And that bothers me more than perhaps it should.
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May 12, 2015 05:43
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zoux posted:Trailer for Syfy's The Magicians. My god, Quentin's perfect. and Elliott as well. But I don't recognize any of the other characters. Seems like they're leaning hard into the magic being cool, but emotionally unhealthy theme pretty hard (MAGIC IS A DRUG).
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May 18, 2015 18:56
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zoux posted:How many of y'all have ever started watching a show based on a seeing a cool gif of it? Well, one poster's avatar inspired me to watch Steven Universe, and the big internet buzz over the very end of <CONTROVERSIAL ANIMATED SERIES> got me to marathon all four seasons. NO REGRETS ON EITHER.
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wait so what is even the deal with Taxi Brooklyn? I've watched a couple episodes, and it's...surreal. The framing of shots and the editing is off-kilter in some undefinable way, and the performances are all weird, except Jacky Ido, who is awesome and having a great time. Is it intentionally a deadpan comedic parody of cop shows? 
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GreenNight posted:Uhh some weird XFiles news awesome. Home was a great episode.
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So I didn't really follow TV through the 2014-2015 season except for watching The Flash/Arrow/Agents of SHIELD/Gravity Falls/Survivor/Daredevil. And I caught Brooklyn 99 up until January or so, when I got behind. yes I know, terrible taste. But I was in school and didn't have the emotional capacity to watch anything serious. But now I have a week's worth of time to kill, and a desire to do some serious binge-watching. WHAT SHOULD I WATCH?
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DivisionPost posted:If you haven't watched BoJack Horseman, give that a try. I also STRONGLY recommend Halt and Catch Fire if you're down for a (much) slower paced character drama. The first season is flawed for many, but it finishes strong, and season 2 has already improved on it ten-fold. oh yeah, I did watch Bojack Horseman as well. but I will definitely put Halt and Catch Fire on my list. I really, really like Lee Pace.
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Aw, is there really no thread for UnREAL? That's disappointing, I really wanted to talk about it here with people. Anyone else watching it?
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Irish Joe posted:Key's the skinny one, right? If so, yeah, he's pretty good. The fat one.. not so much. Apparently the Emmy voters agree with you, as he was the one nominated.
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Shageletic posted:That skip was the beginning of the end of BSG's good episodes. What, did you forget the mutiny arc? That was the best set of episodes in the show's whole run.
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