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Can anyone tell me if all these houses listed between $1 and $500 in Detroit are actually selling for close to that price? Also, if anyone knows anything about the following things, I'd appreciate the advice: Farming in Michigan state. Amalgamation of properties in Detroit (costs, DA process, regulations) Living in Detroit! (Jobs, culture, crime, schools, public transport)
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Jan 22, 2015 00:13
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Yes. I am personally selling the houses you listed. If you wish to send money to my paypal I'll cut you a deal. 2,000 bucks for all of them.
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Jan 22, 2015 00:14
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Any house you find for that low of a price is not a house you want to buy unless you are going to raze it and only wanted the property. Houses in decent neighborhoods are well-priced compared to other cities and the surrounding suburbs, however the property tax is higher. You aren't going to pay $500 for a house you can live in, though, that's a media myth. $30-50K on a foreclosure that will require significant work is more realistic.
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Jan 22, 2015 00:55
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Though since you believed houses you could live in, in a major city, were literally selling for $500 im guessing you're quite naive. So, yes, I also have some homes i will sell you. Very cheap.
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Jan 22, 2015 00:59
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ashgromnies posted:Though since you believed houses you could live in, in a major city, were literally selling for $500 im guessing you're quite naive. No, I was more thinking along the lines of "Buy 2-6 houses all next to each other, demolish them and make a cool compound with extensive garden".
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Jan 22, 2015 01:13
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/26/soil-remediation-detroit-greening-kozerski_n_1703905.html From what I understand, years of car manufacturing has not been kind to Detroit's soil and you will not be able to grow anything edible for a while. More trouble than it's worth to garden in Detroit.
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Jan 22, 2015 01:30
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Unless you plan on owning an arsenal, I'd highly suggest you don't buy any kind of house in Detroit. You couldn't even give me a house in Detroit for free with no monthly payments.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:25
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Manwich posted:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/26/soil-remediation-detroit-greening-kozerski_n_1703905.html Captain Mog posted:Unless you plan on owning an arsenal, I'd highly suggest you don't buy any kind of house in Detroit. You couldn't even give me a house in Detroit for free with no monthly payments.
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Jan 22, 2015 02:30
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Captain Mog posted:Unless you plan on owning an arsenal, I'd highly suggest you don't buy any kind of house in Detroit. You couldn't even give me a house in Detroit for free with no monthly payments. You could give me one, dunno whats wrong with this guy Id start a crack den probably
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Jan 22, 2015 03:09
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There're a bunch of restrictions about you having already been a citizen of Michigan or Detroit or something and also actually live on the property, and invest some minimum $ amount into the house in the first X number of months, I forget the specifics but I googled around about it a few months ago, my brother was thinking of starting some artist compound, basically they were trying to make it so that if you were buying the property, you were actually going to live there and contribute to the community, not just make your money it and gently caress it up for the city even more and be all "hey we're a bunch of out of state rich people come to destroy your city's identity completely!". Google will have specifics, I think all of the information I could possibly want showed up in the first 5 results when I looked into it before.
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Jan 22, 2015 22:23
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:No, I was more thinking along the lines of "Buy 2-6 houses all next to each other, demolish them and make a cool compound with extensive garden". Test the soil for lead contamination. The areas with really cheap houses are well away from the really bad contaminants, but you should still check. If it's above 400 ppm, forget it. Between 100 and 400? You've gotta remove the top four inches of soil, can't use compost unless you can guarantee it's lead-free, put a barrier of mulch all around tilled areas to prevent leaded soil from contaminating plants during rainstorms or windy days, wet the soil before working in the garden, keep the soil more alkaline than 6.5 pH, wash all produce in a 10% solution of vinegar, and peel/remove outer leaves from any vegetables. Also, wear a separate suit of clothing for working in the garden and wash it by itself, and remove your gardening shoes before entering the house. You should also check for arsenic and PAHs, (20 and 15 ppm respectively for safe agricultural usage) and I guess good luck with your goofy-rear end plan.
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Jan 23, 2015 05:41
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You remember the BP spill in the gulf and how years later they were still showing horrible misshaped shell fish, but at the same time people were still eating it? Just because people grow vegetables in a heavy metal pollution area doesn't mean they're safe to eat. It just means eating them won't kill you instantly.
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Jan 23, 2015 14:37
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There are groups like Greening of Detroit trying to clean up contaminants to make this sort of thing more feasible but they're literally planting trees that take a while to grow, I don't think you can have your land ready within a couple years unless you're prepared to spend a lot of money.
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Jan 23, 2015 15:01
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Manwich posted:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/26/soil-remediation-detroit-greening-kozerski_n_1703905.html I'd take the blog source with a grain of salt. Besides, screaming about nothing being able to grow sounds much more sensational than simply making a raised planter.
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Jan 23, 2015 20:51
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keykey posted:I'd take the blog source with a grain of salt. Besides, screaming about nothing being able to grow sounds much more sensational than simply making a raised planter. There's a shitload of lead in the soil because by the time we realized lead-based paint and leaded gasoline were bad for you Detroit was already in the process of being abandoned. It's not universally toxic but you do need to test and isolate clean soil in most of the city.
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Jan 24, 2015 05:09
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Can anyone tell me if all these houses listed between $1 and $500 in Detroit are actually selling for close to that price? Do you plan to buy hundreds of acres? If not then what you're talking about is more like gardening. And if the land was valuable as a commercial farm, then it already would be.
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Jan 24, 2015 13:39
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Sucrose posted:Do you plan to buy hundreds of acres? If not then what you're talking about is more like gardening. And if the land was valuable as a commercial farm, then it already would be. It's not considered for actual big commercial farming purposes, it's just a recent fad for white hipsters in Southeast Michigan to do this sort of thing.
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Jan 25, 2015 12:46
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Effectronica posted:Test the soil for lead contamination. The areas with really cheap houses are well away from the really bad contaminants, but you should still check. If it's above 400 ppm, forget it. Between 100 and 400? You've gotta remove the top four inches of soil, can't use compost unless you can guarantee it's lead-free, put a barrier of mulch all around tilled areas to prevent leaded soil from contaminating plants during rainstorms or windy days, wet the soil before working in the garden, keep the soil more alkaline than 6.5 pH, wash all produce in a 10% solution of vinegar, and peel/remove outer leaves from any vegetables. Also, wear a separate suit of clothing for working in the garden and wash it by itself, and remove your gardening shoes before entering the house. What do you do for a living? This is a great post OP, print this one out.
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Jan 25, 2015 17:52
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Punch Card posted:It's not considered for actual big commercial farming purposes, it's just a recent fad for white hipsters in Southeast Michigan to do this sort of thing. eh http://www.hantzfarmsdetroit.com supposedly they're gonna start growing food on a large scale this year and they're most def not hipster
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Jan 27, 2015 15:44
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ashgromnies posted:eh Mos Def would agree.
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Jan 28, 2015 09:29
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Okay thanks everyone, but I think I'm gonna open a cafe/clothing retail/music lessons store here in Sydney instead. This thread is now open for pollution-chat, since it's mildly interesting.
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Jan 28, 2015 13:25
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Okay thanks everyone, but I think I'm gonna open a cafe/clothing retail/music lessons store here in Sydney instead. That is a much better idea than a garden in automobile Chernobyl.
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Jan 28, 2015 16:47
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Okay thanks everyone, but I think I'm gonna open a cafe/clothing retail/music lessons store here in Sydney instead. Hahah moving from Sydney to Detroit, that's great. My family moved from Sydney to Vancouver, which is considered a nice part of the frozen upper half of North America, and people still ask me why on earth I would do that.
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Feb 1, 2015 00:42
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 dont see how lead in the soil would matter if you are processing it as lumber, tho
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Feb 1, 2015 00:52
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Picture yourself when your trees are ready for harvest and you get paid less than a week's wage for your forty trees that you've been paying property taxes on for 60 years.
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Feb 1, 2015 01:34
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Reverse Centaur posted:Hahah moving from Sydney to Detroit, that's great. My family moved from Sydney to Vancouver, which is considered a nice part of the frozen upper half of North America, and people still ask me why on earth I would do that. Probably because Australia is entirely peopled with criminals.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:09
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Part of the rationale was that my partner is a US citizen who also happens to be a jazz musician. No market for that niche here. Also you know, we'd like to own or own home one day. Never going to happen in Australia. And I generally like Americans more than Australians, who are psychologically distasteful to me
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Feb 1, 2015 02:24
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Houses are affordable in many areas of the US that aren't anywhere near as lovely as Detroit so don't be discouraged.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:30
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DNova posted:Houses are affordable in many areas of the US that aren't anywhere near as lovely as Detroit so don't be discouraged.
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Feb 1, 2015 09:08
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Part of the rationale was that my partner is a US citizen who also happens to be a jazz musician. No market for that niche here. Also you know, we'd like to own or own home one day. Never going to happen in Australia. And I generally like Americans more than Australians, who are psychologically distasteful to me If you moved from the largest city in Australia to somewhere else like Adelaide, Darwin or Hobart you probably could own your house. Housing in San Fran, New York and other major American cities would be just as expensive. But if you don't like Australia you should move, I'd hate to be somewhere where I despise the people. Just expect to live in more poverty there than in Australia. No centrelink, no free healthcare and subsidized medication and a minimum wage less than half of ours.
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Feb 1, 2015 09:50
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Lord Windy posted:If you moved from the largest city in Australia to somewhere else like Adelaide, Darwin or Hobart you probably could own your house. Housing in San Fran, New York and other major American cities would be just as expensive read- massively more expensive DNova posted:Picture yourself when your trees are ready for harvest and you get paid less than a week's wage for your forty trees that you've been paying property taxes on for 60 years. if you are saying that people trying to find new constructive beneficial sustainable use for destroyed land should get tax breaks and incentives from the state then I agree also once the trees are established the maintenance is extremely low, they're just trees
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Feb 1, 2015 12:48
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FilthyImp posted:Probably not anywhere that also has a vibrant Jazz community though... Seriously? Just take your pick of any major city along the Mississippi River for affordable housing and a cultural appreciation of jazz.
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Feb 1, 2015 17:12
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Arnold of Soissons posted:read- massively more expensive And isn't the idea to grow way more profitable crops once the trees soak up all the lead?
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Feb 1, 2015 20:33
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TunaSpleen posted:Seriously? Just take your pick of any major city along the Mississippi River for affordable housing and a cultural appreciation of jazz. Even podunk towns in the Midwest still have jazz groups and festivals.
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Feb 1, 2015 20:59
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There's plenty of nice areas right around Detroit proper that are nice. Troy, Royal Oak, Farmington Hills, Dearborn, and Ann Arbor come to mind. Nowhere near $500 for a house, though.
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Feb 1, 2015 21:14
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RCarr posted:Probably because Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. Guilty as charged.
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Feb 1, 2015 21:32
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Arnold of Soissons posted:read- massively more expensive Are you saying major American cities are massively more expensive than Sydney? Because they aren't.
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Feb 1, 2015 23:51
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Reverse Centaur posted:Are you saying major American cities are massively more expensive than Sydney? Because they aren't. Sydney has some high rents but if you honestly compare downtown SF or manhatten they are not only higher but higher over a much larger geographic area
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Feb 2, 2015 00:01
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Sydney has some high rents but if you honestly compare downtown SF or manhatten they are not only higher but higher over a much larger geographic area No. Sydney is the most expensive city to buy in in the entire world at the moment. And there no such thing as rent control, and the government helps real estate investors thereby inflating prices even more, and is in bed with developers. It's a nightmare. Anyway, looks like I'm opening my own venue, so that takes care of Mrs. Jazz-noise on a certain level, and I am currently in one of the best areas of Sydney (very few white people)
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Feb 2, 2015 03:01
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:and I am currently in one of the best areas of Sydney (very few white people) What is your problem? What is so wrong with Australia that you despise Australians and 'white people'? I don't know how to put this in a nice way, but you're just like the people in the Auspol thread where there is very little positivity. There is all this vitriol but I can't see where it it is directed. Why does all this 'bad' outweigh the fact that we live in a safe, 1st world nation that has all the benefits of our socialist policies.
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