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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


It is 1914, and Europe has been plunged into the greatest war yet known to man. Across France and Belgium, men are fighting and dying in their millions. This is the war that will imprint the image of Trench warfare upon the hearts and minds of future generations – Futile charges, gas attacks, relentless shelling and tanks. These are how we think of the Great War.

But that is not the only story, both sides had two great fleets, the Royal Navy was the pride of the nation, and part of the tension that lead to the war stemmed from the fact that the Kiaser wished Germany to have a fleet to match Britain.

The naval arms race had been going on for over a decade, and both sides had the new Dreadnaughts, but the key to the war was the British Naval blockade – it, along with the war on two fronts was what caused starvation and ruin to Germany and her Austria-Hungarian allies.

We are going to fight out that war.

What is Steam and Iron?

Steam and Iron is Naval Warfare's naval war simulator. I'm going to come clean here, its not pretty – its damned near basic.



Here is the British Fleet sailing out to meet the enemy. Now these are proper 1990's graphics, but lets face it, most of the time you're not going to be in this close - as Admiral of the fleet, you're going to be looking at this view.



Here is the same fleet, zoomed out – here you can see the Battleships are steaming south to form up with its escorts. But even that can be small.



This is the entire North Sea – the Area of Operation – the whole world is “modelled” but this is the only part we have to worry about.

So, why use this over Jutland? Well, partly I have already done Jutland, and while it has a a Campaign and 3D models, it has the worst interface known to man, and I'm just not willing to put myself through that again. While this game works in 1 min turns. (Don't worry, you can set it to run and process those turns at a very high rate.) This means I can have better control over this ships and the reporting of the battles.

The Campaign has you setting the missions for the fleets and reacting to enemy movements. Turns are 1,2 or 4 weeks. During which there is one scenario generated – I'll be using 2 week turns, as 1 week would take forever and 4 weeks leads to to large battles.

Choice time!

There are several ways I can run this LP, and of course, I'm going to give you the option to decide.

Choice 1 – Which side do we want to play?

The mighty British fleet, has a large number of ships that will prove to have a few technical issues. Jellico at Jutland is recorded as saying “There is something wrong with our bloody ships today” after the third capital ship exploded to a flash fire.

The German High Seas Fleet is smaller in number, but the ships are better built.

The British must blockade Germany and sink her transports, while Germany must at some point challenge the might of the British Navy, a battle that she may not be able to win.


Choice 2

This is the big one – how do we run this?

Option 1 is Me being in complete control. - I'll run this like a normal LP.

Option 2 is putting you lot in command. While I will still be the Sea Lord (Actual title BTW), I will be handing the ships over to you lot and letting you sail them to destruction.

If we go for Option 2, then it will not be complete control – I will do the boring things of sailing ships to bombard shore locations and the like, just to speed the LP up. Only once contact is made with an enemy ship will you lot be called in.

As this LP may well go on for a while, I won't be allocating squadrons – so if you shout out now, I'm just going to ignore you. Ships will be allocated when they get into action. Although if you have commanded a squadron before, you get first dibs on it after that of course!


So, let me know what you guys want to do, and we'll get to it!

TO DAVY JONE'S LOCKER!

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sniper4625
Sep 26, 2009

Loyal to the hEnd
German, Option 2

Let's sink the Royal Navy with skill and steel, not incompetance!

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
British, Option 1

You don't get off that easily Jellicoe old chap!

Rogue0071
Dec 8, 2009

Grey Hunter's next target.

German, Option 1.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Rogue0071 posted:

German, Option 1.

This seems about right.

sureaboutthatthing
Oct 15, 2013
German, Option 1

meatbag
Apr 2, 2007
Clapping Larry

Grey Hunter posted:

The Campaign has you setting the missions for the fleets and reacting to enemy movements. Turns are 1,2 or 4 weeks. During which there is one scenario generated – I'll be using 2 week turns, as 1 week would take forever and 4 weeks leads to to large battles.

We don't want this? :ohdear:

Also, it was Beatty who said that. :colbert:

British, Option 1.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

German, Option 1 please.

LeadSled
Jan 7, 2008

German, Option 1.

Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!
German, Option 2

Let's show the Brits once again why their whining about the German Naval Build Up was a hilarious, if deadly, overreaction!

Skanky Burns
Jan 9, 2009
British, Option 1.

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"
British, Option 2

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

German, Option 1

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
German, Option 1

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
German, option 2.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
German, 1.

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Oh Grey, Where do you find these games? :allears:

British, 2.

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe
Since your skills lie in the area of sinking the British fleet, you may as well have that work in your favour:

German, Option 2

Zanziabar
Oct 31, 2010
German, Option 1

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
German, 1.

If this goes well I'd love to see an LP in the Tsushima expansion.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
British, Option 2

I very much would like to challenge the notion that one could do better than Beatty given historical hindsight.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

V for Vegas posted:

German, 1.

If this goes well I'd love to see an LP in the Tsushima expansion.

Actually, their next game is called "Rule the waves" and has you taking control of a early 20th century nation as it enters the dreadnaught era. You research tech and design ships, then respond to random arms treaties, colonial war and possibly even the big one.

If you don't think watching me try to do battle with a bunch of ships designed by comittie (spp mstk) won't be fun, then I don't want to know you.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
German, option 2

ForeverBWFC
Oct 19, 2011

Oh, the lads! You should've seen 'em running!
Ask 'em why and they reply the Bolton Boys are coming! All the lads and lasses, smiles upon their faces,

WALKING DOWN THE MANNY ROAD, TO SEE THE BURNDEN ACES!

Cartoon posted:

British, Option 1

You don't get off that easily Jellicoe old chap!

There's a better chance of you sinking the RN this way...

Ilanin
May 31, 2009

Smarter than the average Blair.

Pickled Tink posted:

Since your skills lie in the area of sinking the British fleet, you may as well have that work in your favour:

British, option 2

The strategic challenge of how to use the Royal Navy's superiority is, for me, more interesting than the rather fewer options you have when commanding the HSF.

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.
British, Option 1. Moral Victory: Don't gently caress up at Jutland.

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

Any country, option 2.

the JJ
Mar 31, 2011
German 2

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010
British, option 1

Mortuus
Nov 8, 2012

Jesus loves you, useless corpse
German, Option 1

Dickensian Aspect
Mar 18, 2009
German, Option 1.

Is submarine warfare not a thing in this game? Seems like it would have been mentioned in the OP.

Alikchi
Aug 18, 2010

Thumbs up I agree

German 1

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011
German, Option 1

I have always wanted to see how this game actually plays.

shalafi4
Feb 20, 2011

another medical bills avatar
This looks like a computerized version of the old Jutland board game.

As in the ships look like scans of the counters from it.


Are destroyers and cruisers done as flotilla's?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
German, Option 1

S w a y z e
Mar 19, 2007

f l a p

German, 1 because I enjoy watching Grey suffer.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia
German 1

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
British, Option 1

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Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp
British, Option 2

Some would say that the Royal Navy isn't just going to sink itself. I would like to challenge that assertion.

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Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

German, Option 2

I tend to prefer the underdog. Besides, potentially upending the historical order of things is more fun, and what better way to make sure that never happens than putting a bunch of clueless goons in charge :v:

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