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Uradd posted:I believe that as well, can you perform a kill on the jailer if he jails you? That is what I'd like to get a ruling on. It seems pretty silly. I think jailing would take precedence.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:18
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Figured that would be the answer. Expect No Help From the Gods.
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Apr 3, 2015 17:23
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Chaoslord claims having jailed Schwein N1. Obviously there's no help from the gods, but if we're trying to solve night actions, please consider that jailors may not be allowed to jail the same person two nights in a row.
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Apr 3, 2015 18:57
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Look Under The Rock posted:Chaoslord claims having jailed Schwein N1. Obviously there's no help from the gods, but if we're trying to solve night actions, please consider that jailors may not be allowed to jail the same person two nights in a row. ah. If this isn't going to be resolved through mechanics, then I would have to agree that Schwein came out of D1 and D2 looking decidedly dodgy.
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Apr 3, 2015 19:31
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btw Look Under The Rock posted:Give me a list of useful things you've done and I'll apologize
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Apr 3, 2015 19:34
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Gunsmith is not on the flash thingy - what does such a person do? I also don't know what a TRAITOR does.
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Apr 3, 2015 19:36
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VivaNova posted:Gunsmith is not on the flash thingy - what does such a person do? I also don't know what a TRAITOR does. My role allows me to check the ship's inventory and see who owns a gun. Per mafia wiki all scum own guns but some town may have guns as well.
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Apr 3, 2015 20:09
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Uradd posted:Gunsmith vs Cop this time around, claimsville again. Can you answer my question please
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Apr 3, 2015 20:10
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Obviously nightkills have to happen last otherwise the jailor role would be useless.
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Apr 3, 2015 20:12
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Do we even know that schwein was jailed at all
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Apr 3, 2015 20:13
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:Obviously nightkills have to happen last otherwise the jailor role would be useless. NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:Do we even know that schwein was jailed at all I assume you know that Uradd has a gun.
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Apr 3, 2015 20:21
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:Can you answer my question please Id like to know what you think I did, personally. since scum opened the last day with silliness and im not entirely sure there would even be a gunsmith in this game, especially with a cop claim.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:37
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VivaNova posted:btw At the point where I made that post the only thing on your list was casing Conor. Also maybe I missed the part where your mason claim got Chaoslord to claim, I thought he did that because Conor claimed jailor?
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Apr 3, 2015 21:42
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chaoslord posted:Viva, can you confirm this is true? chaoslord posted:if we have me, five, viva, and schwein as a core town team, with the possibility of another person I'm feeling fairly sure of, I don't think scum would be able to overcome that. I just want your approval, LUTR!
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Apr 3, 2015 22:17
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Uradd posted:Id like to know what you think I did, personally. since scum opened the last day with silliness and im not entirely sure there would even be a gunsmith in this game, especially with a cop claim. If Uradd has a gun then he's scum. I have a gun due to being a cop, but I'm pretty sure that's the only town role with a gun (correct me if I'm wrong), I doubt there's another cop beside me, ergo anyone with a gun besides is scum. Nevergirls - does Uradd have a gun?
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VivaNova posted:I just want your approval, LUTR! Like I said, I'm a really aggressive player. Thanks for the quote, that's helpful. Lynching Schwein is what I'd like to do today. I should have a decent amount of downtime tomorrow as it's a tech rehearsal, I don't want to dive before we discuss more. But Schwein's claim seems really unlikely to me.
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Look Under The Rock posted:Like I said, I'm a really aggressive player. Why is my claim unlikely?
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Apr 4, 2015 00:58
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schwein11 posted:Why is my claim unlikely? You being jailed last night doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me and ~setup speculation~
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Apr 4, 2015 02:12
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Uradd posted:Id like to know what you think I did, personally. since scum opened the last day with silliness and im not entirely sure there would even be a gunsmith in this game, especially with a cop claim. I think you killed chaoslord with the gun that you have.
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Apr 4, 2015 03:47
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we have a jailer a gunsmith two masons possibly a cop doubt there's another town role that has a gun. ## vote uradd
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Apr 4, 2015 03:49
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:we have a jailer why would masons have guns? Unless that isn't the point you're making, I only see one town role with a gun.
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Apr 4, 2015 04:35
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##vote Uradd See my post re gunsmith and Nevergirls' most recent post.
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Apr 4, 2015 05:13
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:we have a jailer I only have one item, and its definately not a gun ##vote Nevergirls
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Apr 4, 2015 05:44
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Conor claimed he role blocked never n1 and never agreed. He then ran into the thread and claimed never was scum, apparently thinking that would work. It doesn't seem like a bus, I think it was a genuine attempt to kill never. Plus no one has counterclaimed being rbed n1. So if never says uradd has a gun and uradd says he doesn't im inclined to vote uradd.
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Apr 4, 2015 12:13
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Uradd posted:Im here for the deadline, Im not 100% sold on klee tbh but hes the only viable option right now it looks like so ##vote: kleedrac putting that there and im going to read everything again This vote put kleedrac at -1. What's the point of scum last minute voting a buddy and distancing from it? If you know someone's gonna flip scum in the next hour or so, why say this? I don't like how little uradd has been posting and I think all the claiming has been distracting people from actually scummy behavior. Tech is today so I should have boatloads of time, I'm guessing I'll put a vote down early afternoon.
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Apr 4, 2015 13:07
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schwein11 posted:If Uradd has a gun then he's scum. I have a gun due to being a cop, but I'm pretty sure that's the only town role with a gun (correct me if I'm wrong), I doubt there's another cop beside me, ergo anyone with a gun besides is scum. Nevergirls - does Uradd have a gun? PGO, although that doesn't apply here. Vigilante. JOAT. I also wouldn't put it past Ecco to create a gun miller role in a game with a gunsmith.
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Samfucius posted:Question: would the NK happen before or after a night action? I'm assuming after. Irrelevant never going to be answered. Why ask this? schwein11 posted:So I guess I better claim - I'm the cop. Was blocked both nights. Check out first letter of my posts at beginning of game for those who care about breadcrumby things. I targeted Conor night one and Nevergirls night two. NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:My role allows me to check the ship's inventory and see who owns a gun. Per mafia wiki all scum own guns but some town may have guns as well. So on top of the roleblocker we've lynched and the jailer that was killed we're have ANOTHER blocking role? schwein11 posted:##vote Uradd What is with this scummy posting? NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:we have a jailer AAHHH HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU WERE BLOCKED? What the gently caress is going on. I want to lynch both Nevergirls and schwine here. Uradd posted:I only have one item, and its definately not a gun ##vote Nevergirls ##Vote Nevergirls I can see CT trying a super risky claim to either Bus Nevergirls OR get them to ride all the way to town victory.
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Apr 4, 2015 17:45
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Hang on, Never didn't say they were blocked last night at all. ##unvote
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Uradd posted:I only have one item, and its definately not a gun ##vote Nevergirls Okay, what is it?
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Look Under The Rock posted:This vote put kleedrac at -1. What's the point of scum last minute voting a buddy and distancing from it? If you know someone's gonna flip scum in the next hour or so, why say this? Never has said uradd has a gun and he's said he doesn't. One of them is lying. Forget how sketchy Schwein has been, it doesn't matter.
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VivaNova posted:Lutr , you are slipping. If uradd is scum bussing was the only option at that point. I'm not slipping, my point was that if he was scum he knew a bus was the only option and therefore there was no reason to distance from his vote. His attempt to distance ("not sold on this vote but it's the only option") reads town to me. I need to read D1 again if it's between never and uradd but I think there's a false dichotomy here. I'd be interested to hear what "item" uradd has, plus a votecount would be nice.
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I'll vote Never over uradd for the following reasons: Uradd was the alternate lynch being pushed instead of Kleedrac. Conor was voting uradd. I don't see scum pushing a lynch on a different one of their own instead of hitting the gas on a bus. Never has been gunning for uradd since D1. The interaction between Conor and Never at start of D2 looks really bad in light of Conor flipping scum. Never turns her attention right back to uradd. There's more, I'll check back in when I get home.
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Uradd has been acting scummy since d1 that's why I tried checking if he has a gun in n1 and got blocked. On n2 I SUCCEEDED and he does have a gun. He can be scum or town with a gun but he says he doesn't have a gun at all. Unless there's a thing that redirects my investigation to something then one of us is lying (it's him)
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Apr 4, 2015 20:05
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LordVorbis posted:Okay, what is it? I have a skeleton key, it allows me to check to see if someone has moved at night.
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Apr 4, 2015 20:09
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Checked votecount. Money, mouth. ##vote: NevergirlsOFFICIAL
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Apr 4, 2015 20:28
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Uradd posted:I have a skeleton key, it allows me to check to see if someone has moved at night. Okay, what have you done with it? This isn't the time to be coy.
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Apr 4, 2015 21:24
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LordVorbis posted:Okay, what have you done with it? This isn't the time to be coy. Night 1 I checked on Schweine, and he hadnt. Last night I checked Never and they had moved.
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Look Under The Rock posted:I'll vote Never over uradd for the following reasons: This sums it up for me pretty well. I've voted Nevergirls twice now, and I still see it. Maybe he was legitimately busy but he still showed up shortly after I started pushing the lurker lynch and agreed with me on the concept, and now that just looks like deflection. ##vote NevergirlsOFFICIAL quote:There's more, I'll check back in when I get home. I am curious as to what this is.
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Uradd posted:Night 1 I checked on Schweine, and he hadnt. Last night I checked Never and they had moved. This fits fortunately with what we already know as open knowledge. I'd really like Nevergirls to show up and fight this case some more, but I guess at this point it's really simple. Either Uradd or Nevergirls is lieing about night actions. Some game setup meta, a jailer AND a watcher seems highly unlikely. Swine states he is a cop with a gun, and as such would explain a guncop role, because they would show Swine is gun having, and as such possible scum. ##Vote Uradd I don' t think ConorT was trying for an epic bus and instead decided to run with blocking someone and get a townie lynched with little threat.
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