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maduin
Mar 4, 2003
Could have been worse, but that circle shot where they zoomed in on each of the three protagonists was some terrible loving television.

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Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Almost as bad as last season's finale.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

shut up netface posted:

Much like season 1, the first episode sets the stage, and will most likely explode within the next coming episodes. Unfortunately, we won't have another Rust Cohle, we will have a series of lovely cops with emotional baggage, and David Morse as a Yogi cultist(?) and lousy father

Was that David Morse? I can't find him in the credits.

Also Rick Springfield was in this episode :shepface:

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

IMB posted:

Episode was good and lol at the people complaining about not understanding what happened and not liking the characters after one episode. It's almost like you had your minds made up ahead of time!

It's almost identical to the response to 1.1. Lot's of people talking poo poo and complaining, then when 1.2 came out, everyone jizzed their pants. I like this new season and I can't wait to jizz my pants next Sunday.

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
I think a lot of people who have had their brains broken by a television show I won't name, but rhymes with BOSSED, got really into solving a puzzle that wasn't there, and taking a very competent genre detective show way more seriously than they ever should. When it turned out there was no puzzle to solve, and all of their emotional labor they had put into a show that doesn't exist (Surprise) didn't pay off, they got really loving mad and started looking for reasons to hate this show 9 month ago. I think a lot of those people are television critics, and a lot of them post in this hellhole of a subforum.

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

Henchman of Santa posted:

Was that David Morse? I can't find him in the credits.

Also Rick Springfield was in this episode :shepface:

It was Morse & I didn't recognize Springfield unless he was one of the guests at the investment/planning dinner.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

sector_corrector posted:

I think a lot of people who have had their brains broken by a television show I won't name, but rhymes with BOSSED, got really into solving a puzzle that wasn't there, and taking a very competent genre detective show way more seriously than they ever should. When it turned out there was no puzzle to solve, and all of their emotional labor they had put into a show that doesn't exist (Surprise) didn't pay off, they got really loving mad and started looking for reasons to hate this show 9 month ago. I think a lot of those people are television critics, and a lot of them post in this hellhole of a subforum.

The difference is that there was a lot of outside material that tried to sell "BOSSED" as that kind of puzzle show for a long time. TV critics probably should have been able to see through that marketing and known better from actually watching the show, but for whatever reason it didn't even start to happen until the final season where "the characters" started becoming a talking point from the showrunners.

True Detective was never actually advertised as being about finding Cthulu's missing tentacles that killed Rust's wife or whatever- it was just nerds vastly misunderstanding how basic storytelling techniques such as allusion work.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

maduin posted:

Could have been worse, but that circle shot where they zoomed in on each of the three protagonists was some terrible loving television.

CALIFORNIA IS A BRAND NEW GAME

I like how not-main-character cop walked away first.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I would give this episode probably a generous B like another poster said. "So you like bullying kids, rear end?! Pen?!" is the dumbest thing I've heard on TV all year though, and I've watched two CSI Cyber episodes. I think naming a bully Aspen was Pizzolato's idea of comic relief, since Season 1 never had any.

Anya
Nov 3, 2004
"If you have information worth hearing, then I am grateful for it. If you're gonna crack jokes, then I'm gonna pull out your ribcage and wear it as a hat."

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Wait was he blind? I figured it was a "You saw too much" message.

I mean, it's obviously the missing guy, but with the "blind sunglasses" that's how I'm thinking of him. The head wounds in the second closeup of him, before he slumped into the car window made me realize something was up.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

yoohoo posted:

I'm with you - drunk assholes (who also happen to hold authority) make for entertaining leads. I'm not sure why all the confusion either, it's the opening episode to the second season of a show that didn't make all that much sense initially other than they were going to solve a murder. Give it time.

Vince Vaughn is a gangster trying to turn good who wants to build a railroad and someone doesn't want him to build it.


Supposedly he got a blowjob from the girl he pulled over. We don't know if it's true or not, but the chief seemed to believe he was innocent.

Edit: Or she accused him of soliciting one. Which sounds more accurate.

Probably not true. He has to pop boner pills to get hard. I assume because of injuries from a bike crash, since he gets off by riding his bike at 100 mph at night with the lights off.

Damo
Nov 8, 2002

The second-generation Pontiac Sunbird, introduced by the automaker for the 1982 model year as the J2000, was built to be an inexpensive and fuel-efficient front-wheel-drive commuter car capable of seating five.

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Like the whole internet is saying how confused they were by this episode and how hard it was to follow. I'm really not one to make "I Am Very Smart, Look How Smart I Am!" comments, but, really people? It was not confusing at all. 3 cops with baggage and a crook who is trying to go legit by becoming a legal crook (read: modern businessman) are getting tangled up in the shady stuff ex-criminal guy is into as a result of the murder of the Vinci City Planner, who was one of the the main dudes involved in said shady business dealings. That's basically all that was going on in the episode. What the hell is there to be confused about?

Anyway, I liked the episode. I can't imagine that by the end I will love it as much as I did Season 1, but I nor anyone else with a brain expected that. However, so far it's got me hooked and interested and I think it's going to be a solidly great season of television by the end. Looking forward to next week!

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Deadulus posted:

Probably not true. He has to pop boner pills to get hard. I assume because of injuries from a bike crash, since he gets off by riding his bike at 100 mph at night with the lights off.

I thought he was gay.

Damo
Nov 8, 2002

The second-generation Pontiac Sunbird, introduced by the automaker for the 1982 model year as the J2000, was built to be an inexpensive and fuel-efficient front-wheel-drive commuter car capable of seating five.

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nooneofconsequence posted:

I thought he was gay.

Lol here we go again. Never change, TV/IV. I've also seen this mentioned on other boards as well, along with the "the episode was so confusing!" poo poo. Not surprisingly the "he's gay" thing was mostly coming from from the same people who were confused by the episode.

I'm really curious what could have possibly gave you this notion. Unlike your pulled out of thin air "he's gay" theory, There is a lot of actual tangible evidence that he just suffers from erectile dysfunction, such as his obvious PTSD, his likely suffering from depression and anxiety, and not to mention his scars give you further cause to believe there might be other physical ailments he suffers from that haven't been mentioned yet that could also affect his sex drive and his ability to get an erection. Not to mention the fact that it really doesn't make a lick of sense that a gay man would go through the constant trouble of secretly taking viagra to have sex with a women.

Contrast this with the fact that, as far as I could tell, there was not a single piece of dialogue or anything tangible to support the thought that he is gay. Unless I missed something in which case feel free to let me know.

Damo fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Jun 22, 2015

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
More than that, I'm pretty sure he was trying to kill himself, not jacking off with his motorcycle.

"Why do you have to zip up your pants every time you get off that hog, Taylor," Colin said. I nearly fell off the bike, aghast. "You got a pussy in that thing?" I coughed and gulped. "Hahahaha, nice one, Colin," I said

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Oh my god, Nic Pizzolatto is Horny Man Travis. It all makes so much sense now.

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
What the gently caress is the poo poo coming out of Vince Vaughn's mouth. None of them make any sense. Also he doesn't sound like him.

Dr. Abysmal
Feb 17, 2010

We're all doomed

Deadulus posted:

I assume because of injuries from a bike crash, since he gets off by riding his bike at 100 mph at night with the lights off.

It looked to me like he was going to commit suicide, then decided against it and put the lights back on.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Gay people are more likely to commit suicide.

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.
I actually liked this episode a lot, there were some really cool shots, plus he hosed that dad UP. But remember the complaints about Pizzolatto ripping off a bunch of other stuff? Well I think the Weekend at Bernie's writers would like to have a word.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Watching the reruns and what the hells with the huge ravens head/mask in weekend's at bernies car?

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Dr. Abysmal posted:

It looked to me like he was going to commit suicide, then decided against it and put the lights back on.

I thought he was just trying to get an adrenaline rush. His dialogue right after was something like 'stop doing this' right? Like, he had an urge to do it all the time. But, maybe he has backed out of suicide multiple times?

doomisland
Oct 5, 2004

blablablabla posted:

Watching the reruns and what the hells with the huge ravens head/mask in weekend's at bernies car?

It has the film reels showing the second shooter on the grassy knoll.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

doomisland posted:

It has the film reels showing the second shooter on the grassy knoll.

This wouldnt be a true detective thread without some pointless speculation

onemillionzombies
Apr 27, 2014

Positive: W. Earl Brown appearance, Deadwood forever.

Negative: Vince Vaughn's "acting."

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

blablablabla posted:

Watching the reruns and what the hells with the huge ravens head/mask in weekend's at bernies car?

There seem to be a lot of casinos around, maybe some kind of faux-indian thing?

lifts cats over head
Jan 17, 2003

Antagonist: A bad man who drops things from the windows.

Deadulus posted:

I thought he was just trying to get an adrenaline rush. His dialogue right after was something like 'stop doing this' right? Like, he had an urge to do it all the time. But, maybe he has backed out of suicide multiple times?

He's definitely got some PTSD symptoms but my guess is former military. He said something to his lady friend about not understanding what happened in the desert so my guess is Iraq/Afghanistan. Reckless behavior can be a symptom that goes with many former military problems.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

I thought it was fine but I am easily appeased by repeated overhead shots of highways and industrial hellscapes.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

The only parts that didn't seem in place were the Vaughn segments. We've got our ritualized murder, our damaged protagonists, and the hint that being near a refinery is evil.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Literally everywhere is near a refinery though.

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

withak posted:

Literally everywhere is near a refinery though.

*in gruff macho cop voice* That's what I call... not a coincidence *remembers dead wife*

Tomahawk
Aug 13, 2003

HE KNOWS
Did Colin Farrell do a rape when he put that mask on?

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

The world's most depressing bar was cool and good.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

I changed my mind.
I'm not sorry.
Thought it was mostly fine, minus some stupid dialog. The dynamic between Frank and Ray was pretty intriguing and CHiPS guy, well, I don't know what his deal is but I want to know more.

Damo
Nov 8, 2002

The second-generation Pontiac Sunbird, introduced by the automaker for the 1982 model year as the J2000, was built to be an inexpensive and fuel-efficient front-wheel-drive commuter car capable of seating five.

Offensive Clock
Jesus Christ people if he was really actually attempting to commit suicide, do you not think he would have tried a more, you know, sure method? And actually have stuck with it?

What he did screams adrenaline junkie who needs to do crazy things to feel alive and emotion again. Compare that to his inability to get a boner and how that is a similar theme of being numb and not being able to enjoy life like others can.. Also recall how he said earlier in the episode how he NEEDS to stay on the highways, as that is the only time he feels good or right or whatever The guy is numb from his life experiences and riding the highways on his bike like that is practically the only thing that keeps him sane. Perhaps he was toying with the idea of suicide in the sense that he was being reckless in his persuit for emotion and a connection to life and desire to live again, -- but he wasn't doing it to kill himself for sure.

I swear to god people you are really loving stupid and bad at watching television. I need to stay away from this loving thread if this is any indication of the level of discussion and interpretation. The show is practically loving screaming what it's trying to tell you and you are just straight making poo poo up instead. What the hell?

Damo fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Jun 22, 2015

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

nooneofconsequence posted:

I thought he was gay.

He's definitely gay and he's going to try to do it with drunk Collin Farrel

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Vince Vaughn certainly does not spout philosophical bullshit as well as Matthew McConaughey

doomisland
Oct 5, 2004

Tomahawk posted:

Did Colin Farrell do a rape when he put that mask on?

He did beat up that reporter and steal his poo poo for Vince Vaughn at least.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Damo posted:

Jesus Christ people if he was really actually attempting to commit suicide, do you not think he would have tried a more, you know, sure method? And actually have stuck with it?

What he did screams adrenaline junkie who needs to do crazy things to feel alive and emotion again. Compare that to his inability to get a boner and how that is a similar theme of being numb and not being able to enjoy life like others can.. Also recall how he said earlier in the episode how he NEEDS to stay on the highways, as that is the only time he feels good or right or whatever The guy is numb from his life experiences and riding the highways on his bike like that is practically the only thing that keeps him sane. Perhaps he was toying with the idea of suicide in the sense that he was being reckless in his persuit for emotion and a connection to life and desire to live again, -- but he wasn't doing it to kill himself for sure.

I swear to god people you are really loving stupid and bad at watching television. I need to stay away from this loving thread if this is any indication of the level of discussion and interpretation. The show is practically loving screaming what it's trying to tell you and you are just straight making poo poo up instead. What the hell?

You're almost angry enough to be a True Detective character.

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Damo
Nov 8, 2002

The second-generation Pontiac Sunbird, introduced by the automaker for the 1982 model year as the J2000, was built to be an inexpensive and fuel-efficient front-wheel-drive commuter car capable of seating five.

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Unfortunately, not near drunk enough.

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