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US politics. Because D&D can never get enough. Strap yourselves in and brace for a round of alcohol poisoning like you’ve never had before! Yes, April was in some ways a quiet month, but in other ways quite a busy one! Although Congress has been a bit quiet on the law-making front this month, between presidential campaign announcements, constant grousing about Obama’s Iran negotiations, race riots, and gay marriage, there’s still been plenty to talk about, and with those announcements, negotiations, riots, and gay marriage cases still ongoing, May will likely be much the same (with an extra dose of PATRIOT Act/NSA talk on the side)! 114th Congress Bingo Card Every month it's worth taking a look at what the 114th Congress is up to, because let’s face it: it’s probably most of what we talk about in here when we aren’t talking about trains or Rahm Emanuel.
I feel obligated to point out that this came out before Chipotlegate and Foundationgate Other News, featuring the Clinton Corner Clinton Corner I’m introducing a new feature this month, the Clinton Corner, so that you can be all caught up on the right wing's latest and greatest reasons to This month, the Clinton Corner features author Peter Schweizer, and his book Clinton Cash, implying that the Clinton Foundation’s mismanagement means you should definitely not vote for Hillary! As for other news…
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Related threads "US Politics" is an incredibly broad topic, as A) the country is freaking huge and B) given our role in international events pretty much everything impacts us. So there are other subthreads 2016 Presidential Primary 2016 US Senate Elections SCOTUS thread Right Wing Media There are also regional subthreads that are usually pretty slow, but sometimes cross-pollinate with this thread when something important is happening. Pacific Northwest Illinois Texas California There was a South thread, too, but it's been dead since last July. Lifted the rest of the above from FriedChicken. As before post suggestions for adding to the above and I'll edit them in if I see them. And remember folks, drink chat goes in D&D chat thread. Drink responsibly. Your liver will thank you. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 20:53 on May 11, 2015 |
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Hey all! On-again off-again thread follower here; not much for the twittersphere. Can anyone recommend some good long form USPol news resources? Preferably some that summarize stuff every week or so.
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I am a big Hillary fan, but an even bigger Bernie fan. I understand the difference between the two and have a greater understanding between those two and a conservative opponent. I am, what may say, politically aware of the situation at hand. If it fell to the primaries I would wholeheartedly advise you to vote for Bernie Sanders for the presidency. This however, is just a dream. Though people seems to like Bernie's ideas and policies, they just don't seem to resonate with the stupid general public. So here is what I propose: Yes for Bernie during the Primary; but Yes for Hillary during the general. It's sad to say but Bernie has no chance on a national level. Bernie may sound like the protagonist from a children’s book from the early 80's, but he has zero chance on capturing voters in this age. I've also hated the strong grip of corporations in the political field, and honestly I can see Bernie telling them to screw off, but that doesn't seem like the popular thing to do. I think Bernie has more since than Mark, Jeb, or heck, even Hillary, but I don't see him winning any popularity contests; which is problomatic, considering the whole United States political set up.
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Anime Curator posted:I am a big Hillary fan, I just love war criminals too.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Hey all! On-again off-again thread follower here; not much for the twittersphere. Can anyone recommend some good long form USPol news resources? Preferably some that summarize stuff every week or so. Slate Political Gabfest and On the Media are pretty good. Slate Political Gabfest crawls up its own rear end pretty often, but they usually discuss issues in a way you don't hear in other places.
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gently caress the Republic. posted:I just love war criminals too. If you're not going to vote for someone who's a war criminal I guess not voting is valid for you.
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# ? May 1, 2015 10:36 |
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This kid's got some fuckin stones: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...g-too-much.html
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# ? May 1, 2015 11:13 |
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Anime Curator posted:I am a big Hillary fan, but an even bigger Bernie fan. I understand the difference between the two and have a greater understanding between those two and a conservative opponent. I am, what may say, politically aware of the situation at hand. If it fell to the primaries I would wholeheartedly advise you to vote for Bernie Sanders for the presidency. This however, is just a dream. Though people seems to like Bernie's ideas and policies, they just don't seem to resonate with the stupid general public. So here is what I propose: Yes for Bernie during the Primary; but Yes for Hillary during the general. It's sad to say but Bernie has no chance on a national level. Bernie may sound like the protagonist from a children’s book from the early 80's, but he has zero chance on capturing voters in this age. I've also hated the strong grip of corporations in the political field, and honestly I can see Bernie telling them to screw off, but that doesn't seem like the popular thing to do. I think Bernie has more since than Mark, Jeb, or heck, even Hillary, but I don't see him winning any popularity contests; which is problomatic, considering the whole United States political set up. If that's your strategy, I recommending voting for Ted Cruz in the primaries...
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Dancer posted:This kid's got some fuckin stones: Maybe he can moderate the next Presidential debate.
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Calling it now: Bernie will earn the most electoral votes of any socialist candidate in the nation's history.
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# ? May 1, 2015 13:17 |
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Just bought The New Jim Crow. Probably should read it, since it's likely I'll be working in a prison in the near future.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Calling it now: Bernie will earn the most electoral votes of any socialist candidate in the nation's history. More than Debs? The Socialist candidate from back when Socialism actually had some traction in the US?
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RaspberryCommie posted:More than Debs? The Socialist candidate from back when Socialism actually had some traction in the US? Bernie will tie Debs in terms of electoral votes, making the statement that he earned the most still true.
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Joementum posted:Bernie will tie Debs in terms of electoral votes, making the statement that he earned the most still true. Shows what I know. For some reason I thought that election was before winning the majority of electors won you the state. I should stop saying things when I'm tired.
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RaspberryCommie posted:More than Debs? The Socialist candidate from back when Socialism actually had some traction in the US? Yeah, my extensive reading of unsourced wikipedia articles tells me that Debs was never really all that successful even then, so my bet is that Bernie will get more electoral votes just by running in a major party. Think of it, people: we are, right now, living at the high-water mark of socialism in America to date.
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Feels good, man.
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In all seriousness, I can't help but get the feeling that America is getting ready to swing left. Hard. It's like we never had the opportunity have an actual leftist movement like Europe did, so while they had the opportunity to relieve that societal pressure, in America we just slammed our eyes shut and kept forcing the pendulum to the right. So that pressure just kept building and now we're seeing everything start to give almost at once. Or maybe we'll just eat ourselves, who knows?
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# ? May 1, 2015 14:02 |
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Quote of the morning, “I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton for president!” ~ Larry Flynt.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:In all seriousness, I can't help but get the feeling that America is getting ready to swing left. Hard. It's like we never had the opportunity have an actual leftist movement like Europe did, so while they had the opportunity to relieve that societal pressure, in America we just slammed our eyes shut and kept forcing the pendulum to the right. So that pressure just kept building and now we're seeing everything start to give almost at once. We're entering uncharted territory. Europe is actually backwards in this respect - they're still in the 1950s US "let's keep the
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Luminous Obscurity posted:In all seriousness, I can't help but get the feeling that America is getting ready to swing left. Hard. It's like we never had the opportunity have an actual leftist movement like Europe did, so while they had the opportunity to relieve that societal pressure, in America we just slammed our eyes shut and kept forcing the pendulum to the right. So that pressure just kept building and now we're seeing everything start to give almost at once. America swings right and left in a very reactionary way depending on the current major issues. Right now, THE major issue is LGBT rights. That is about to change nationally and the religious right will lose their collective poo poo over it. 2016 is all about the battle for the White House, because the Supreme Court will be changing soon.
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What are Bernie's major successes in the Senate?
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# ? May 1, 2015 14:24 |
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10/10 thread title
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# ? May 1, 2015 14:30 |
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Here's an interesting topic for a slow Friday: quote:At its core, the biggest frustration with politics is its lack of good, old fashioned results. Yet, our current political system rewards ideology over substantive outcomes. The primary process favors the most ideologically pure, not the most experienced. The lack of a defined Congressional hierarchy (aka the old seniority system) discourages teamwork and encourages freelancing. It’s impossible for a Member to “bring home the bacon,” not simply because the earmark system has been dismantled, but because any member who did so would be pilloried at home by newspaper editorials and pushed through the buzz saw of haters on social media and cable TV. I'm of the opinion that eliminating earmarks is one of, if not the main, reason for the complete clusterfuck in Congress. It's an interesting question, do these things that are supposed to be good, morally-correct ideas like access and transparency actually cripple government, rather than help it?
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I do think there is at least some evidence to support the current state of Congress being an unintended effect of that. Now it's really hard to peel off votes since you can't offer anything in return earmark wise. I'd rather have a little more corruption than a completely useless Congress where the GOP would rather compare the size of their partisan dicks with useless Obamacare repeals than actually govern. Granted, a lot of this would be still going on with earmarks, but I can't imagine it would be to this level.
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# ? May 1, 2015 14:59 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Calling it now: Bernie will earn the most electoral votes of any socialist candidate in the nation's history. More than, heh, Obama?
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Hey all! On-again off-again thread follower here; not much for the twittersphere. Can anyone recommend some good long form USPol news resources? Preferably some that summarize stuff every week or so.
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# ? May 1, 2015 15:06 |
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I've noticed lately that there seems to be a growing resentment of the GOP among military members. I'm not certain if this is just my shifting circles, but it used to be the Republicans had majority support, but now pretty much every member of the military I know thinks "tries to get me killed in stupid wars", "tries to destroy the VA" and, new in the news, "tries to gently caress over incoming soldiers by supporting predatory lenders". I'm actually seeing a lot of anger at the GOP over that last bit right now: The Republicans in Congress came out massively to support the predatory lenders and car dealers that prey on fresh recruits and folks do not seem to be happy about it.
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Hello, thread! Taking advantage of the holiday to come out of the lurking shadows. I stumbled across this today: http://movetoamend.org/amendment/ and it seems pretty good? I wondered why nobody mentioned it in here but then I figure it would just get killed in some committee somewhere. Is there any way to get some traction behind it? My only concern is the first clause might hamper the ability for species to be recognised as non-human persons e.g. apes and dolphins.
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# ? May 1, 2015 15:14 |
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Because very few people in Congress are actually sad about the ruling that allows unlimited money to be dumped in their campaign war chests.
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Anime Curator posted:I am a big Hillary fan, but an even bigger Bernie fan. I understand the difference between the two and have a greater understanding between those two and a conservative opponent. I am, what may say, politically aware of the situation at hand. If it fell to the primaries I would wholeheartedly advise you to vote for Bernie Sanders for the presidency. This however, is just a dream. Though people seems to like Bernie's ideas and policies, they just don't seem to resonate with the stupid general public. So here is what I propose: Yes for Bernie during the Primary; but Yes for Hillary during the general. It's sad to say but Bernie has no chance on a national level. Bernie may sound like the protagonist from a children’s book from the early 80's, but he has zero chance on capturing voters in this age. I've also hated the strong grip of corporations in the political field, and honestly I can see Bernie telling them to screw off, but that doesn't seem like the popular thing to do. I think Bernie has more since than Mark, Jeb, or heck, even Hillary, but I don't see him winning any popularity contests; which is problomatic, considering the whole United States political set up. thanks, anime avatar person
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zoux posted:Because very few people in Congress are actually sad about the ruling that allows unlimited money to be dumped in their campaign war chests. A lot of them actually hate it because it ups the pressure to fundraiser, which basically no one likes doing. On the other hand, it's actually really hard to write a good constitutional amendment to deal with campaign finance that won't have spillover effects.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Hey all! On-again off-again thread follower here; not much for the twittersphere. Can anyone recommend some good long form USPol news resources? Preferably some that summarize stuff every week or so. The Diane Rehm Show on NPR does a weekly political roundup every Friday with one hour on US Domestic issues and a second hour on international news. They're usually excellent and the podcasts/streams are free to listen to.
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Just catching the end of the press conference in Baltimore but apparently warrants have been issued for some police officers?
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Yeah, here's a pro tip for law enforcement: don't leave your gun in the bathroom for a seven year old to find. To be clear: this is Capitol police. Unconnected to the situation in Baltimore.
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Good Citizen posted:Just catching the end of the press conference in Baltimore but apparently warrants have been issued for some police officers? One officer has been charged with 2nd degree murder.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:In all seriousness, I can't help but get the feeling that America is getting ready to swing left. Hard. It's like we never had the opportunity have an actual leftist movement like Europe did, so while they had the opportunity to relieve that societal pressure, in America we just slammed our eyes shut and kept forcing the pendulum to the right. So that pressure just kept building and now we're seeing everything start to give almost at once. I wish you were right, but I see no evidence of it? Conservatives are still getting dragged kicking and screaming away from "gays aren't subhuman scum" and that's still at least 1/3 of the country.
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Wolfsheim posted:I wish you were right, but I see no evidence of it? Conservatives are still getting dragged kicking and screaming away from "gays aren't subhuman scum" and that's still at least 1/3 of the country. Well I don't think anyone expects the glorious revolution to come from that particular sector of the country.
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zoux posted:One officer has been charged with 2nd degree murder. Several officers have been charged, and I think all of them got hit with multiple charges.
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