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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

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Seriously though, is the "He did this again at 17," thing confirmed? It's been brought up a few times, but when people ask for a source, no one provides one. I read the whole police report, but ages aren't provided. Just years, that line up with him being 14-15. Same question for whoever said at least one of the girls was 6 years old.

Not that if it weren't true, anything would be okay. Just trying to get my facts straight, and there have been a few unsourced claims in here. I'm not even saying it's not true. I'd just like a source.

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The police report was when he was 17. But they refer to incidents when he was 14-15.

Edit: Again, I feel like I should reiterate it doesn't make that much of a difference. Just trying to get the facts straight.

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Casimir Radon posted:

How are you going to fix a tubal pregnancy without aborting the fetus?

To be fair (not that I should be), I think that's what he's saying. "I'm totally against abortion. But in the case of a tubal pregnancy, do what you have to do to save the mother."

"Unlikely" though it may be, it's happened to my wife twice, so for him to refer to it at all is better than those politicians who have these blanket "no abortions ever" laws that would have killed my wife is better than normal.

thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 18:16 on May 26, 2015

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TheNinjaScotsman posted:

The Duggars, and the girls' husbands in particular, have been on a Catholic-bashing kick on social media lately, so even though they campaigned for him in 2012 I'm not sure there's much love lost there.

Do you have links to that? I'd love to read some.

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bitcoin bastard posted:

tbh, catholics unironically believe they drink blood at mass as well

e: and this is the most enlightened of the mainline christian religions

I remember when I first started having real problems with my Catholic upbringing. It was the first time, I think it was in middle school, that someone told me, "As Catholics, we believe in transubstantiation. So we believe that the wine actually becomes the blood of Christ, and the bread actually becomes the body of Christ." To which I said, "You mean symbolically, right?" And was told, "No, we believe it actually transforms." My response of, "...well I don't," wasn't all that popular.

Like, does it just transform into blood that just happens to taste like wine? Because that's still wine.

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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

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Apparently a portion of the interview is airing on Wednesday night. Then the entire 1-hr...1-hr...special airs Friday night.

What the gently caress are they gonna talk about for 1-hr?!

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Reminds me of an episode of Roseanne, when DJ has been in the bathroom for an hour.

Darlene: "Trust me. He goes in that room cause it's the only one with a lock on it, and he's in there for like an hour at a time; which either means he's really, really good at it... or really, really bad at it."
Dan Conner: "Aw, God!"
Roseanne: "Well I don't want you to give him any grief about this, ya know, cause you could traumatize him and turn him into a serial killer, or something."
Darlene: "Well don't worry. How much damage could he do with only one free hand?"

So...so much damage.

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Jim Bob: "This was not rape or anything like that, this was touching someone over their clothes. There were a couple of incidents where he touched them under their clothes."

An actual quote. An actual thing that was said.

edit: Also, they seem to be going with the "the girls didn't even really know or understand what was happening" defense. Holy poo poo.

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SERPUS posted:

The Learning Channel

That's not what TLC stands for anymore. The official line on what TLC stands for now is nothing. It's just TLC.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

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...holy poo poo, it's true?

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KiteAuraan posted:

Down again. They must be going crazy in the compound.

It's still up here.

http://duggarfamily.com/michelles-b...b0-3f525bc390e1

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It is for me. Must be cached or something.

Oh god, what if someone hacked Michelle's blog and this statement is fake?

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People magazine running with the statement now.

http://www.people.com/article/josh-...ction-statement

I can't get over how dumb this statement is. Without this, there was the tiniest, infinitesimal chance his part in this was faked, via an elaborate prank or hack or something. But even that is gone by him making this statement.

Now they'll hunt down the people he cheated with. And the porn sites he registered for. Because you just know he wasn't smart enough to get free porn

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Oh man, they really did change the statement. No mention of pornography.

http://duggarfamily.com/michelles-b...3e-7becfc87c911

quote:

I have been the biggest hypocrite ever. While espousing faith and family values, I have been unfaithful to my wife.

I am so ashamed of the double life that I have been living and am grieved for the hurt, pain and disgrace my sin has caused my wife and family, and most of all Jesus and all those who profess faith in Him.

I have brought hurt and a reproach to my family, close friends and the fans of our show with my actions.

The last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country I was hiding my own personal failures.

As I am learning the hard way, we have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. I deeply regret all the hurt I have caused so many by being such a bad example.

I humbly ask for your forgiveness. Please pray for my precious wife Anna and our family during this time.

Josh Duggar

They really don't get the Internet.

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I'm assuming they're going with "sex addiction", and considering it's a faith based center, I'm also assuming their bar of what qualifies is considerably lower than mine is.

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Mar 27, 2004

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I wanna be a Transformer.

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Heath posted:

Lol the dude is a piece of poo poo for other reasons but getting pissy for using "babysit" as a shorthand for "spending time with my child" is pedantic as gently caress

It's kind of not. It's used by shithead dads all the time when they have to watch their own kid, because that's clearly the mom's job, but they'll help out every once in a while with "baby sitting".

You don't baby sit your own kid. You raise them and/or watch them. Baby sitting is something you do as a substitute, before handing them back to who is "supposed" to be taking care of them.

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dog buttz posted:

Jessa is hot. If only her desire to obey her man's sexual whims at a moment's notice was a choice and not due to brainwashing.

If only praying wishing made it so.

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Reverse Centaur posted:

TLC. They're calling it Counting On and it sounded like it was only about Jill and Jessa but the whole family is in it, minus Josh I presume. It looks like next episode is gonna have a good sit down talk with Josh's wife. First episode had lots o' crying and was refreshing in its honesty, the girls even admitted they hosed up defending Josh on Fox News.

Very different vibe than the old show, and only a few episodes I think.

I haven't watched the second episode yet, but it should be noted that, at least as of the first episode, there is also no Michelle or Jim Bob.

One thing I'll say is that, based on the language the girls used in their interviews, it does seem like they got real(-ish) counselling at some point. Whether that was after Josh molested them, or more recently, (also how extensive it was) I don't know. But they were using some serious therapy terms. The interviews were pretty fascinating, and honestly what I was hoping the Fox News interviews would be.

Now, keep in mind, they're not tell-alls by any stretch of the imagination, and they still support Josh as a family member (from a distance). But it's more than I was expecting, which was a quick mention at the beginning, followed by a pilot for their spin-off. The family is clearly pissed as hell at Josh.

Pretty sure I read this show is going to be 4 episodes, 90 minutes (with commercials) each.

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BrigadierSensible posted:

How exactly does one minister to a catholic?

Duggar: Have you accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your saviour?
Catholic dude: Well yes I have. I am actually a pretty devout member of a church.
Duggar: That's Ace! What church?
Catholic: That one down the street.
Duggar: The catholic one? Oh no no no. You sir are no christian. Please let me tell you how you are doing Christianity wrong, and will go to hell unless you do it the way I tell you.

I can't see any catholics being receptive.

It goes something like, "In order to truly be SAVED you have to be born again, choosing to be baptized instead of whatever your kooky church did when you were a baby. The only way to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven to be with our all loving God is to do exactly what I say, otherwise that benevolent God will let you burn in the fires of eternal damnation.

Also, you guys worship the Saints, and that's polytheism and wrong."

Something like that. Some words may be a little different.

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CalmDownMate posted:

The duggars house is prolly flooded right now just so you know.

Top City Homo posted:

the gift of Jim Bob upon the quivering loins of the harlot spawn witches

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for fucks sake dan posted:

what photos and videos could there be to prove he didn't pay for sex sessions in which he roughed her up?

Lately his lawyer appears to be, basically, confirming they did have sex, just not that it was rough or non-consensual.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/jud...-154000466.html

quote:

Duggar's motion was filed on Dec. 30 and argued that Dillon "did not provide anything more than a formulaic recitation of the elements of assault and/or battery."

"Her labels and conclusions are not adequate, particularly because she states that she consented to physical and sexual contact in exchange for payment," Josh's lawyer, Jeffrey A. Conrad, argued in the court documents.

"No way, I didn't assault her, even she says she consented to have sex with me for money, so...." is not something you say if you never had sex with with a woman. For money.

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Well, I guess now we know what porn Josh watched.

Casimir Radon posted:

So does he do the same thing to his wife, or is she for procreation and this kind of act is reserved for "whores"?
I think you know the answer to this.

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Looks like someone is rebranding.

A Duggar Cousin Says She Had Premarital Sex, 'Never Lived Up' to the Family Standard

quote:

A relative of 19 Kids And Counting Duggar family is coming clean to People magazine about why she's happy to let her hair down in a way that might make her the clans "rebel."

Amy (Duggar) King, a cousin of the Duggar children, graces the cover of the magazine's newest issue in short shorts and a midriff-baring shirt, an outfit that the ultra-conservative brood might consider risqué.

Known as the rebellious one of the clan, Amy admits in issue that she had premarital sex and "never really felt up to the Duggar standard."

Amy gave insight into her upbringing and how it differed from her extended family, saying: “growing up was all about shorts, tank tops, country songs and boyfriends.”

She said she "became known as the rebellious one without even really being rebellious."

"What makes me a rebel?" she said. "I love the Lord and I love my family. I'm just not born to live exactly the way they do."



NIKE!

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Pope Corky the IX posted:

Please please please bring them to New York City. I want to see them surrounded by fake Elmos and painted topless women in Times Square.

They've already gone to New York City on the old show. It involved a lot of NIKE! and staring at the ground.

In fact, I think that was the first appearance of NIKE!

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Pope Corky the IX posted:

Let me guess, they stayed in Times Square and Rockefeller Center, and maybe a trip to the Statue, and that's it. And I doubt they ever went near the subway.

And forgive me for not having seen more than two episodes, but what is "NIKE!"?

I honestly don't remember where they went, other than the Today Show to be interviewed.

Whenever anyone in the family sees someone dressed in, let's say, less than modest clothing (anything that could give a young Duggar boy a hard on), they say "NIKE!" and everyone (the boys) are supposed to stare at the ground, so their innocent eyes do not become unclean by the site of female flesh.

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Krispy Kareem posted:

It was in this thread I think. There were some weirdness in interviews between Jessa and Sturgeon over the holidays. I doubt they believe in divorce, but they also don't believe in therapy with good licensed professionals - so it's like an irresistible force against an immovable object.

It's not super important, but Jessa's husband is named Ben. You're thinking of their kid, Spurgeon. (That loving name.)

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Krispy Kareem posted:

Isn't his last name Seaman or something?

Fish-theme names still appropriate in this circumstance.

Seewald.

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Krispy Kareem posted:

That's the one with the hot Ukrainian little person.

Holy poo poo those aren't even TLC shows. That and Little Women of Atlanta are on Lifetime.

I wonder if TLC gets annoyed at people thinking they broadcast all the freak shows.

No it's not. The one with the little people, where one had cancer, and they adopted (two kids, actually) is The Little Couple. Which even people in here admit features pretty decent people, to the point where the show is a bit boring. The woman who got cancer is a medical Doctor. No one in it is Ukrainian. And it is a TLC show.

Unless there's another little people show that also features these things.

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"Family is everything" as you see just a small subsect of the family surrounding her.

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