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K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

LORD OF BUTT posted:

Batty is clearly sapient and capable of free thought. Doesn't that qualify him for personhood?

According to certain voices in the Ex Machina thread, no. To summarize, because Batty is an artificial intelligence*, it is fundamentally impossible that he is a person. So even to the extent that he acts like a person, he is actually 'beyond personhood,' which conveniently explodes ethics into a million pieces and removes from you, the 'real' person, the burden of actually having to make a decision about what is right or wrong when confronting this 'beyond person.'

*In this point of view, you need to remember that artificial intelligence is being treated as a literal phenomena, not a metaphor.

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K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

Basebf555 posted:

So as long as we are complimentary towards the artificial intelligence("beyond human" vs. "sub-human"), that makes it ok to throw all ethics out the window. Interesting.

It's basically just cynicism disguised as transhumanism. 'This superior being could be planning anything! It could just want to make us into slaves!' (Meanwhile, 'superior being' is being enslaved.)

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