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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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The woods panels are a quick reference cheat sheet for decent panel composition, not any sort of rule that's being championed. The pixar list is their specific perogative when it comes to storytelling, that list is mostly useless if you don't work at pixar/are trying to copy pixar outside of a couple of the less plot specific steps like reducing the number of characters.The thing with the post it notes is, like, a whole nother level of mind numbing and pointless, same with the discussion of precensorship(sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's okay, it can be anything).

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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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Scribblehatch posted:

You've misread me.

You have massive and confusing holes in your communication

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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Szmitten posted:

And I kinda wish people didn't dogpile Scribblehatch because a) the poo poo you're talking about isn't even in the comic, and b) you are aware that nudism is a real thing that exists that real people do who would give you an earful for thinking their lifestyle choice was sexual or something to be ashamed of? And if he goes in that direction anyway and it clearly isn't cheesecake or pornographic (which I find rich considering the self-pub thread is nothing but) then who gives a poo poo? He's never the one mentioning it.

Do the depictions of naked people he's posted in this/other cc threads really line up with what you think of as a naturist lifestyle

I'm not really excited to bring this up again because the shitfest it started before wasn't really interesting or funny but it is baffling to me that anyone can look at the things he's posted here and think it was a succeessful portrayal of a nudist lifestyle and not trying to pass off porny stuff as casual and mature nudity

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May 31, 2012

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Puzzle Thing posted:

So I came in here awhile ago asking for some advice on this comic (and thank youso much for that, it really helped) and I finished, so I thought I'd come and ask you guys what you think/ what you think I need to work on. I originally started this comic because I was a primarily trad artist and wanted to learn digital badly, but I set it aside so many times to do other digital stuff that I was already sorta okay/comfortable at that stuff by the time I even started colouring.

I hope posting a link to the tapastic is okay? That just seems like the most convenient way to read it right now. I just don't want it to seem like I'm trying to farm attention from you guys. http://tapastic.com/episode/174995

Your illustrations are obviously real pretty, my critique would be all the detail and color overwhelms the characters and actions sometimes. Doing something to increase the contrast between them and the background and helping to guide the eye along the page would make it much easier to parse out what's happening quickly. Either thicker/darker linework for foreground stuff or using color to push the atmospheric perspective more could help.

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May 31, 2012

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FactsAreUseless posted:

How worth it is color? I don't see any black and white comics, so I'm assuming it's basically a necessity.

kate beaton
junji ito
lackadaisy
rubyetc
that bee thing on tumblr
manga in general

do black and white if you like it/are good at it

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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I guess i tend to think of monochromatic and black and white as the same thing even thought they're not, especially in this case where having it colored doesn't actually add that much work. And tbh i think that the slightly orange/slightly blue tints she's been doing more recently don't look as nice as when they were purely one shade.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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I really like the treatment people give to ink and inkwash comics but am sad that most visible examples of that currently are soulless new yorker cartoons

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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Hello, I'm going to say something that might be implied or whatever but feels important to point out to someone who hasn't made comics or really done anything visual like you seem to be. If you're new to art and need/want to get better at specifically drawing stuff and making it look recognizable and good you should practice, like, doing that and not just comics. Like you should be doing life drawing and landscapes and still lifes and poo poo at least as much as you're making comics.

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May 31, 2012

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Yeah that's definitely true, what I mean is just that if you're someone like Cephas who is new to both comics and drawing in general it's important to remember that practicing drawing and practicing comics are separate things and that they're both important. I guess it's anecdotal but I've seen a looooooooooooot of people who get super into making comics/animations/whatever else when they're still at an early stage artistically and as soon as they start doing that they spend all their time doing that and drawing practice grinds to a halt.

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May 31, 2012

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pulp rag posted:

I was going to go with Kablam for my senior-year comic, but a local place did almost double the amount in top of being cheaper and quicker.

My friend that did go with them said that they actually screwed up her comic when she went through them, they printed the cover backwards and upside down on all her copies. So, dunno if that was a fluke or not. Gladly, they re-printed everything for free, but by then it was a bit late.

I used kablam for my senior project since I had a lot less copies to print than you guys did, if you only want a few dozen copies and don't need the books very soon they're alright.

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May 31, 2012

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Avshalom posted:

as someone who likes overly sexul art i

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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Cash is for drug dealers and old people, get a square card reader and not have to worry about cash ever again

That's not entirely accurate but it can cut down on how many millions of singles and fives you have to bring since 20s are like the most common bill you'll see

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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are her eyelashes turquoise

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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In the past year like five of my classmates did kickstarters (that I know of, more have probably happened since I graduated} and all of them were successful, the latest one got over five grand if you want to use money as a measure of success. They were all original concepts (one was historical fiction so I guess it had some amount of familiarity among die hard feminist history buffs?) and our college was a tiny school in the middle of nowhere so other than family and friends there was not much of a built in audience for any of it. Doing your own campaign sounded incredibly hard but if you made something you actually give a poo poo about and devote a TON of time to it (the comic and the kickstarter both, like it will be it's own full time job) it's not impossible to do for people who aren't already internet comic celebrities.


Here is some constructive criticism:
I hate that you had someone else do the cover and the chapter titles. People usually expect that the cover will be more detailed than the interiors but when someone of a totally different skill level is making the most forward facing parts of your comic and the bulk of it is different that feels like a bait and switch. As for your art I guess I will just suggest general comic art stuff, practice drawing anatomy more and keeping characters consistent looking between panels, practice posing them in ways that are more dynamic and add more depth to the image as it feels flat in a lot of them right now, I like wobbly shaky panel boarders but I think yours don't feel very intentional, especially when they bump up awkwardly against each other or the word balloons (which I think are a better balance of sketchy but still somewhat organized).

As for your video pitch you should buy a microphone, I could barely hear any of it with my volume all the way up. I also think you are spending too much time focusing on how he was such a crazy character and how wild it is that you're bringing him back and not enough on why your current comic is interesting and worth reading.

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May 31, 2012

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mrfart posted:

What are some of you guys favorite weapons?

Brushes all tha way, just buy some good ink (which is unfortunately harder than it sounds even good brands have lovely bottles sometimes) and a super fine tipped brush

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May 31, 2012

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Argue posted:

I just asked this in the general thread, but since Manga/Clip Studio probably has a lot of users here, I thought I'd ask here too:

Are there brush settings that will let me have a brush whose color will fade after a long enough stroke (preferably a customizable length), but which lets me use the same stroke to keep blending after the color's dried out? I think I have such a tool in Sketchbook, and I believe Corel Painter has one too, but I've fiddled with the CSP brush settings and couldn't find anything similar.

Im really not sure how you would set that up, you could maybe mimic that effect by using one of the oil paint brushes with pressure set to opacity and manually let up yourself as you go, or some set up with the smudge brush where you place a dot of color with something else and just smear it really far

i do all digital all the tome nowadays but still doodle/do single illustrations with ink brushes and copics sometimes

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May 31, 2012

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Mercury Hat posted:

This is a double post on purpose to say Clip Studio Paint has gone on sale like it usually does: Get the standard program for $25 or the full fancy-pants program for $79.

It's my main program and I really love it, it has some neat built-in tricks like screentones and perspective rulers. There's a free trial available, too.

do they ever have a special for people to upgrade from normal to pro or would i have to just buy it again

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

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What is even the point of having multiple panels if they're all gonna look the same. Like no bs or anything, especially if you're gonna redraw them for the principle or whatever why wouldn't you make it a more dynamic layout instead. I understand if you have a subtle moment to moment thing goin on but every time I see some comic where two people talk on a couch and everything but they're facial features stays exactly the same I question why they chose the format of comic strip in the first place. I dunno I see where sweeper bravos point kinda works but I think this specific thought a lot

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May 31, 2012

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i wish when i made lines they were interesting

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May 31, 2012

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I have one small critique of the art, I think you go just a little too intense on the number of folds in the fabric, and the shadows cast by them are all kind of the same size so it makes that area look a little monotonous. I think it works better on the prisoner’s clothes since they are tattered rags, but on like the hat guy’s jacket you might expect it to crumple less since jackets are usually made of a stiffer material.

I agree with the text stuff but I don’t know the right treatment that will still look stylish and fit well with the art.

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