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That sort of planning is a very Matthew Beet sort of planning
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I'm confused, there is something off going on, I have to think, someone screwed up somewhere, I have a ~feeling~
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Jun 1, 2015 02:35
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The only person still alive who didn't vote Coq on D1 is Tirade. Assuming that he's right about himself and Bif, it means that two scum agreed to reduce their number by 1/3 on D1. It would be gutsy play but massive, massive risk imo. I can't imagine Coq being too happy about it in the scumdoc unless they just thought the final votes would switch into Anidav.
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Jun 1, 2015 02:56
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This thread is too silent for town to win.
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Jun 1, 2015 03:52
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Anidav posted:This thread is too silent for town to win. Chill out there's like 10 hours till hammer.
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Jun 1, 2015 03:54
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No. Because when it hits 3 hours to go we'll get served a potion ending in another town lynch. Silence is the song of the defeated.
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Jun 1, 2015 03:59
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Hey I made a complete accident with the kat lynch but Tirade voting then Mith last night just killed of what I was trying to say mid conversation. Didn't like which way it was going Mith? I'll come back to that later and repost what I wrote last night but couldn't post due to threadlock.Birdstrike posted:If anyone cares I actually find Tirade's results less believable with TBK being night killed. Yes! This! It has me completely doubting the cop today as a result of this. Risking a cop to be a live when we've only had vanilla flips we are now meant to believe there is a cop and a role blocker.. I don't like this. Mithranderp posted:hammering a half hour from deadline is not a rush. Mid-discussion is you dunce. Especially when Bowmore said earlier he'd be back before deadline. Mithranderp posted:loving lol I dunno, leaving a cop alive is too big a risk. Unless he's not a cop. Does him claiming roleblock make any sense to you birb? bowmore posted:My first instinct is that scum would kill a claimed cop right off the bat Nah I don't think so. Town has one cop and scum have possibly a god father and a roleblocker, yet we've only flipped vanilla? Something's not right here. Even the night kill target- TBK. What does killing TBK give us? It tries to make Tirades claim of cop valid. No, they didn't kill the cop, they roleblocked him and just happened to kill one of his investigations. Yeah, that's not planned at all. As we circle the drain I'm leaning towards Tirade and possibly Bif. Both started of the game odd, both have been called on it and we've all gone on to ignore them both.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:02
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Anidav posted:No. Because when it hits 3 hours to go we'll get served a potion ending in another town lynch. your posting seems deliberate and forced this game. games where you've survived day 1 and i've gone "oh he's just being anidav' and you've turned up town, i can't do that this game. This game reminds me of your nurse one. I still think your 3p.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:05
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Here was what I was going to post last night in response to Mith saying she had a 'gut feeling' zets was town, but her and tirade closed the thread off while I was writing it and finding the relevant quotes. ------------------------ Mithranderp posted:I don't, I literally said "I get the feeling". "get the feeling he just might not be used to playing town." sorry to be a pedant but imo that's different to "i get the feeling he's town" you also said: Mithranderp posted:Zets: is a little bit different from his usual scum routine. I don't know whether that's because he's trying to avoid detection--usually he hides behind some kind of fun roleplay--or if it's because he's just not used to playing as town. which again, you're 'feeling' he's town whilst simultaneously thinking he's trying to avoid detection and not playing his usual scum routine. and this morning you said: Mithranderp posted:I will probably end up voting for Tirade. I am pretty sure Anidav isn't scum, because lol no scum team would bus Coq instead of Anidav. Zets and Bird both strike me as silently scummy, as does tbk, but tbk's always got that vibe to him. so you've gone from thinking zets is scummy, to he's town over the course of today based on? he didn't do anything except vote tirade, unvote, vote tbk, unvote, then argue with me about god fathers and cops which you apparently didn't really read about or comment on. -------------- So that said, I have no clue atm. I don't like the 'roleblock' and cop claim and investigation kill, I don't like the mith hammer, i don't like mith feeling his town when her first post of the day had him as scummy and he's done nothing that warranted that change in opinion, well from my perspective anyhow. This was all from last nights conversation, just wanted to put it out there and cbf really following up this afternoon. Maybe again tonight.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:10
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I can't provide any reason for Tirade being roleblocked related to my character. Roleblocked also seems like an oddly specific claim in what was to yesterday a very vanilla heavy game. It doesn't quite fit with my recollection of how Gaspy would report night results.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:12
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like I can see a flipside of killing tbk. If they kill the cop they possibly validate two town players. if they kill his investigation it doesn't completely verify him either. but if one of them was a godfather they would want that person to look clear and remove the risk of keeping a cop alive idk. just throwing thoughts out there. lunch time.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:14
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I don't think Gaspy would have said "you were roleblocked" in a result PM. I think he would have said something like "your action failed" and left it to the player to consider. From this Tirade could have said "I tried to investigate Bird and it didn't work for some reason" but he specifically said roleblocked.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:20
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Matthew Beet posted:your posting seems deliberate and forced this game. games where you've survived day 1 and i've gone "oh he's just being anidav' and you've turned up town, i can't do that this game. This game reminds me of your nurse one. I still think your 3p. I've told you what I am and who I am. Throwing Anidav 1.0 shade on Anidav 1.4 is simply an outdated play. Nurse? Mate I gave you a screenshot of my phone. Everything I've said about myself has at the very least been partially validated. I simply don't see a third party in this game which seems to be the most basic of setups.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:20
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Does roleblocker plus godfather seem like overkill against a town cop in this setup? If so this might clear Bif if Tirade has been truthful.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:26
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Birdstrike posted:I don't think Gaspy would have said "you were roleblocked" in a result PM. I think he would have said something like "your action failed" and left it to the player to consider. Gaspy didn't say roleblocked, the response was "your investigation was unsuccessful. Assuming that I was roleblocked seems a fairly safe conclusion.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:26
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Tirade posted:Gaspy didn't say roleblocked, the response was "your investigation was unsuccessful. Assuming that I was roleblocked seems a fairly safe conclusion. What if I commuted?
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Jun 1, 2015 04:30
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Birdstrike posted:What if I commuted? Then say so?
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Jun 1, 2015 04:34
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Lol are you a commuting survivor?
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Jun 1, 2015 04:35
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No I didn't commute. I'm just saying that the existence of a roleblocker is an assumption rather than a fact at this stage.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:40
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Going off into the weeds a bit, but could there have been two scum on the Coq vote if Anidav is the roleblocker? Once it looked like one of them was going to be lynched either way, sacrifice the vanilla scum? I'm trying to figure out a scenario where there would be two scum on the D1 lynch and where Tirade is straight up for town.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:48
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Birdstrike posted:No I didn't commute. I'm just saying that the existence of a roleblocker is an assumption rather than a fact at this stage. Jesus Christ, fine. Do you have any other theories that might have caused an unsuccessful investigation? You know, other than those you immediately rule out?
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Jun 1, 2015 04:50
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Birdstrike posted:Going off into the weeds a bit, but could there have been two scum on the Coq vote if Anidav is the roleblocker? Once it looked like one of them was going to be lynched either way, sacrifice the vanilla scum?
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Jun 1, 2015 04:55
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people got behind my SKY COQ lynch really bloody easy, it took almost no effort for the lynch to swing that way, should look at the early voters
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Jun 1, 2015 04:57
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Birdstrike are you trying to fling theories at the wall to see what distracts us the most?
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Jun 1, 2015 04:58
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Tirade posted:Jesus Christ, fine. Do you have any other theories that might have caused an unsuccessful investigation? You know, other than those you immediately rule out? I haven't ruled anything out except my causing the investigation to fail. My theories though are either you were roleblocked and have been truthful, or you are lying about being a cop. My reasons for thinking you're lying relate to you not being an NK target, me thinking that there would not have been 2/3 scum on the D1 lynch of the other scum and that you're the only player alive who wasn't on that lynch (if we accept that Bif's overkill vote counted). If you were roleblocked though that might be a reason why a vanilla scum was sacrificed.
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Jun 1, 2015 04:59
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Jun 1, 2015 05:01
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Anidav posted:Birdstrike are you trying to fling theories at the wall to see what distracts us the most? No I did that in my only scum game (Big Game Queue), it didn't work. I learn from my mistakes.
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Jun 1, 2015 05:02
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There hasn't been a counter claim so I'm leaning towards believing Tirade right now if this is all vanilla game then there won't be a counter claim, but mods usually tell you if the game will be all vanilla so idk
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Jun 1, 2015 05:05
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bowmore posted:Anidav and Beet were in the first few to switch without hesitation Lol this is a hard yarn you're trying to spin here for no reason.
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Jun 1, 2015 05:05
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Anidav posted:Lol this is a hard yarn you're trying to spin here for no reason.
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Jun 1, 2015 05:06
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but you sound like you are getting real nervous straight up
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Jun 1, 2015 05:06
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bowmore posted:Anidav and Beet were in the first few to switch without hesitation Voting to save his own skin is a time honoured Anidav tradition though
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Jun 1, 2015 05:08
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Hmm. Birb's "what if I commuted" bit didn't sit well with me, just confirm what you can at the time already. But I'm quite glad he pointed out that I should be cleared IF Tirade is truthful. That doesn't clear him with me yet, though. It sounds like a very helpful townie to say, but in a way that could still benefit scum. If Tirade is telling the truth then I can be cleared with you guys, but a Scumbirb could probably coast by a little longer while you lynch me or Tirade, or at someone else other than Birb, to try and find that out. If Tirade is lying, a Scumbirb has nothing to lose by pointing out this useless hypothetical. I don't know yet though if this enough to make Birb the sussest one of the bunch, though. I'll try to get in a good effortpost when bub's in mega-nap mode. Not too many people left to look at so I'll do a more indepth review.
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Jun 1, 2015 05:10
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Anidav posted:I've told you what I am and who I am. Throwing Anidav 1.0 shade on Anidav 1.4 is simply an outdated play. Me throwing mud on everyone and seeing what sticks is beet play day 1 through to day 100. You're doing this narrative thing again. Reminds me of your 'team silent' stuff you've pulled. You're also being overly defensive for "a nothing."
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Jun 1, 2015 05:27
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bowmore posted:Anidav and Beet were in the first few to switch without hesitation I actually proposed coq first I think, you raised it, i reminded you I did and we voted accordingly. So techincally you were one of the early followers  Also a technicality I didn't switch. I hadn't voted that day before I voted Coq. My vote was on anidav from the day before the game started. I guess you could class that as a vote. So your theory is that scum decided to bus coq when there were zero votes on him and when anidav was three quarters of the way to a lynch?
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Jun 1, 2015 05:30
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Anidav posted:Lol this is a hard yarn you're trying to spin here for no reason. god stop biting at everything. you must be on the right hand side in your avatar, where i've incorrectly assumed all this time that you were on the left.
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Jun 1, 2015 05:32
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votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 1 This is the vote count for D1. Anidav got up to 6 votes at one stage. If we believe Tirade, 5 of those votes were from townies. I just don't see why the scum would throw Coq under the bus unless Anidav was worth saving. If he wasn't they could have easily bussed Anidav instead.
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Jun 1, 2015 05:33
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bowmore posted:people got behind my SKY COQ lynch really bloody easy, it took almost no effort for the lynch to swing that way, should look at the early voters It was day 1 at this stage, I don't think we had any real alternative did we?
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Jun 1, 2015 05:33
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Birdstrike posted:I just don't see why the scum would throw Coq under the bus unless Anidav was worth saving. If he wasn't they could have easily bussed Anidav instead. Yep I just said the same thing and I agree with you. Unless it's the long con and they've planned to sacrifice a scum bro on day 1 but that's inherently risky play and to be honest, theres' only two people in this game right now i think would attempt or could pull that off and that's bif or bowmore.
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Votecount for Day 4  Birdstrike (1): Mithranderp Mithranderp (1): Anidav Not Voting (5): Bifauxnen, Birdstrike, bowmore, Matthew Beet, TiradeWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to lynch. The current deadline is June 01st, 2015 at 11 p.m. EST -- that's in about 8 hours, 23 minutes.
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