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Three Olives posted:Is anyone else surprised that Facebook doesn't have a music service yet? No. I think they know how that pie's been divided.
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Michael Scott posted:Where are you getting this? http://www.apple.com/ios/ios9-preview/ and scroll way down to Security. It also mentions two-factor authentication, but I thought that was already a feature of iOS 8. And below that, they have a section on a new Android app to help to migrate to iOS.
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smackfu posted:http://www.apple.com/ios/ios9-preview/ and scroll way down to Security. It also mentions two-factor authentication, but I thought that was already a feature of iOS 8. Ha, oh man. I have a friend who insists on not moving to Touch ID because he doesn't want anyone to have his finger print and, "Besides, I'm so much faster entering my passcode than I know the touch ID could ever be," even though I've shown him how fast it is on mine. 6 digit passcodes are gonna piss him off so much, I can't wait.
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thrawn527 posted:Ha, oh man. I have a friend who insists on not moving to Touch ID because he doesn't want anyone to have his finger print and, "Besides, I'm so much faster entering my passcode than I know the touch ID could ever be," even though I've shown him how fast it is on mine. 6 digit passcodes are gonna piss him off so much, I can't wait. The six digit requirement is only if you use Touch ID. If he's not using Touch ID, the default is still 4.
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Super Dude posted:They want people to make desktop apps with Swift but they don't release it for Windows...what?
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Oh bummer...looks like Apple music IS replacing music.app. I hope I can clear away all the features I'll never use.* *unlikely, but I'll adapt and move on.  EDIT: Yeahhh..they're making Music.app even more convoluted to push Apple Music. To get to my own music, I'll now have to open the app, go to My Music and use a weird hodge-podge Album/Playlist view to find what I want. Rather than just opening the app and going to playlist. I get why they're pushing their music service, but I'm an "old man". I like my music, let me listen to my music easily. Snuffman fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jun 8, 2015 |
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Jun 8, 2015 22:09
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Shin-chan posted:The six digit requirement is only if you use Touch ID. If he's not using Touch ID, the default is still 4. Oh, drat.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:11
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ShoogaSlim posted:Yeah I'm bummed that it's back to the left, also. Swipe down is one of the gestures I use most in iOS right now. You'll be happy to know that swipe down for search is still present.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:11
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Snuffman posted:EDIT: Yeahhh..they're making Music.app even more convoluted to push Apple Music. To get to my own music, I'll now have to open the app, go to My Music and
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Jun 8, 2015 22:17
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The app will also remember the state it was last in when you used it too.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:24
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By default, notifications are now displayed in chronological order and grouped by day, rather than grouped by app.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:27
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Snuffman posted:EDIT: Yeahhh..they're making Music.app even more convoluted to push Apple Music. To get to my own music, I'll now have to open the app, and go to My Music
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Jun 8, 2015 22:27
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Whirlwind Jones posted:hosed up if true. It's not. The version in iOS 9 Seed 1 defaults to 'My Music'.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:34
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Three Olives posted:That's not really my point, I just think it is weird how Apple is touting that X now supports Apple Pay when it is just off the shelf hardware. Like my nail salon supports Apple Pay, they don't give a poo poo, their credit card machine just came with a reader built in. Walgreen now supports Apple Pay! With the same terminals that they have had for years and years for the credit cards with NFC chips that never became very popular. The differentiator with apple pay is the tokenization and bank back-end stuff for it, which is why you see so much talk about bank support. IIRC the last incarnation of google wallet tried to do an end run around the banks and/or put all your purchases through your google account and failed at that.
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thrawn527 posted:Ha, oh man. I have a friend who insists on not moving to Touch ID because he doesn't want anyone to have his finger print and, "Besides, I'm so much faster entering my passcode than I know the touch ID could ever be," even though I've shown him how fast it is on mine. 6 digit passcodes are gonna piss him off so much, I can't wait. By "anyone" I guess he means just "encoded in the write-only secure enclave on my iPhone's processor" because he drat sure leaves his fingerprints everywhere else he goes, including all over the visible surface of said iPhone. Tell your friend some random internet guy thinks he's dumb.
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enMTW posted:It's not. The version in iOS 9 Seed 1 defaults to 'My Music'.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Right? I'll reserve full blown whining until I've actually tried the new app.  I'm just vaguely interpreting off of screenshots. Music.app looked pretty awful under iOS7/8 until I removed a bunch of categories I never use. Wait and see!
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Jun 8, 2015 22:42
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OK, so this is what I'm taking away from the Apple Music:
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Jun 8, 2015 22:44
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Supgaiz posted:By default, notifications are now displayed in chronological order and grouped by day, rather than grouped by app. An upgrade is worth it just for this.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:45
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flosofl posted:OK, so this is what I'm taking away from the Apple Music:
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Rick posted:An upgrade is worth it just for this. ? You have the ability to change the order already.
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Michael Scott posted:? You have the ability to change the order already. EDIT: I know there's a setting but it doesn't appear to work. At least it's not retroactive.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:52
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Astro7x posted:The app will also remember the state it was last in when you used it too. If this actually works then it's well worth it and I'll cancel my Play Music subscription immediately. Hopefully this means it also won't auto play the first track in my purchased list every time I plug the phone into my car stereo.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:58
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The Platforms State of the Union event is also streaming: http://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2015/live/presidio_greys2jog1ot6u7/hls_mvp.m3u8 Currently talking about how new watch sdk works
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Whirlwind Jones posted:From what I can tell, Apple Music includes iTunes Match, but if you're a current iTunes Match user who doesn't want to become an Apple Music "member" then that's fine, iTunes Music will still exit as a separate service. I had read that as Apple Music works only stuff they already had in their store. The info page does state: quote:Does Apple Music work with iTunes Match? I like your version better, though. E: Since there's a 'free' tier of Apple Music, maybe it's one of those iTunes Match for people on the free tier and not needed for the subscription tier.
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Jun 8, 2015 23:02
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Whirlwind Jones posted:From what I can tell, Apple Music includes iTunes Match, but if you're a current iTunes Match user who doesn't want to become an Apple Music "member" then that's fine, iTunes Music will still exit as a separate service. I wonder if that's really how it's gonna work. My Match subscription expires in a few days, but I'll probably be signing up for Apple Music when it comes out. If Match really is included then I won't be renewing my subscription this month. I'm trying to find some info about this but I'm not having any luck... Edit: I did buy all my music from iTunes so I guess I won't be needing Match anymore.
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flosofl posted:I had read that as Apple Music works only stuff they already had in their store. The info page does state: quote:How does Apple Music know what songs are in my personal library?
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Jun 8, 2015 23:07
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Whirlwind Jones posted:This section makes it sound like Apple Music offers the same thing iTunes Match does. Welp. There you go. I'm glad to be proven wrong in this case. The iTunes Match statement must be for the non-subscription version of Apple Music. Which, looking at the feature comparison, makes sense.
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Jun 8, 2015 23:12
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I wonder how much of the terrible unrehearsed rambling in that keynote came from needing to fill time at the last minute because the All-New All-Different Apple TV stuff was supposed to be there but had to be pulled.
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Jun 8, 2015 23:16
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Roadie posted:I wonder how much of the terrible unrehearsed rambling in that keynote came from needing to fill time at the last minute because the All-New All-Different Apple TV stuff was supposed to be there but had to be pulled. I doubt it considering it went way longer than a lot of their previous keynotes.
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Jun 8, 2015 23:23
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If Apple Music isn't an addable SONOS service it can getfuct.
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Jun 9, 2015 00:23
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Are there screenshots of the music app anywhere yet? Or video of it being used? Mainly I just want to see if it still looks like unusable garbage or if they've actually redesigned it to be like...good.
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MrBond posted:The differentiator with apple pay is the tokenization and bank back-end stuff for it, which is why you see so much talk about bank support. IIRC the last incarnation of google wallet tried to do an end run around the banks and/or put all your purchases through your google account and failed at that. No, I appreciate all the work Apple did on the back end to get banks on board but I'm just saying from a consumer stand point stores aren't really doing anything to "support" Apple Pay, they are just off the shelf NFC enabled terminals that have been around for years even if nobody used them. Actually I think it is kind of funny, half of the NFC terminals that I see have been around for like 10 years back when NFC enabled credit cards were going to be the next hot deal and never caught on. Like I said, my grocery store and nail salon both take Apple Pay but they don't give a flying gently caress about it, their terminals just happen to be NFC enabled. It's like with CVS and the whole CurrentC deal, they have had NFC terminals in most of their stores for years and year and years and had to go out of their way to disable NFC when NFC became Apple Pay and not just this thing that nobody uses. edit: Trying not to be  Apple didn't invent NFC, I just think it's funny, it's like Chase bragging that you can use their credit card at pretty much any merchant, it has nothing to do with Chase, it's that all the credit cards are on on the Visa or Mastercard system, the retailers don't have to or give a poo poo that you card is Chase or not, they just care that it goes through the VisaNet system. Woohoo, you credit card terminal conforms to a decade old international standard, now get Chip and PIN dummies.edit 2: I feel like I am being pedantic, if ApplePay gets retailers to replace their lovely terminals with ones that support Chip & PIN and NFC, I'm all for it as a person that has gone half a dozen credit cards in the past two years because of data breaches, it just seems weird for Apple to brag about how many (few) retailers have non-complete poo poo insecure terminals that also happen to support the standard that Apple is using for NFC payments. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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So, they added an iCloud Drive app. It's the only Apple app you can hide from the home screen and it's hidden by default.
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TheJoker138 posted:Are there screenshots of the music app anywhere yet? Or video of it being used? Mainly I just want to see if it still looks like unusable garbage or if they've actually redesigned it to be like...good. There's been an updated version in the 8.4 beta without the Apple Music stuff. Had some nice improvements like the "recently added" section and queuing(finally). I doubt I'll be using Picky anymore after 8.4 comes out.
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Jun 9, 2015 01:10
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So if you have Apple Music, then there's no point in having Match, right? Since it sounds like Music does the same thing?
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Supgaiz posted:So, they added an iCloud Drive app. It's the only Apple app you can hide from the home screen and it's hidden by default. This is cool. Defaulting to hidden is not.
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Jun 9, 2015 01:47
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It's like apple don't want people using iCloud Drive for anything other than the iOS / OS X apps it's linked with. You have to use workarounds like Documents on iOS.
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There hasn't been any mention of Apple music working with Apple TV. I have iTunes Match currently and stream a bunch of music on my tv. Hopefully there is an apple music app update for it and they dump the beats app.
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