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precision posted:It ends up being much better than the pilot gave me reason to believe it would be. And I loved the pilot. So, yeah I'd say it's worth watching if you liked the pilot even a little. Same here. I liked the pilot a lot and then I though "well let us see if it keeps it". Instead it got better. I am now recommending this to everyone I know, best TV Ive watched in a while. Season 2 is about to begin inst it?
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The one thing bugging me is that, after the hugeness of the attack, every government in the world would probably have every single agency after those responsable and there is no way they woulndt have a clue about Elliott and the others yet (and they are not being very careful at all) Also, one thing that is not clear to me: did they wiped just all debt in the world, or all financial records? Assuming is even possible to erase the former without erasing everything
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The institution theory is lame and dumb so I hope is not true
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By the way, is there any way to legally watch this show if you dont live in the USA or Europe? Hulu dont service us third-worlders, and neither does Amazon Prime, I think.
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It could be that neither the dog nor the burning are real, that Eliott sees the patients around according to their craziness or something (she is really a pyromaniac, the guy has an imaginary dog friend, and Leo really is obsessed by Seinfeld). And maybe whatever that the dog guy is trying to convince him into doing is an escape plan from the institution. oh god, you guys sold me into asylum theory, but I still hope is not true
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WampaLord posted:E: VVV After a certain point, "X thing Elliot sees isn't real" becomes really lazy writing. He's got Mr. Robot already, how many other visual hallucinations does he need? I agree. That's whyI hope is not true, but rewatching the premiere looking for it, I've found it very plausible
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Maybe I'm just completely oblivious to a ludicrous degree, but I watched season one going in blind and just went with the flow, never putting in any thought as to whether Elliot was Mr. Robot, even though he asks that specific question in one of the early episodes, if I remember correctly. Like, I guessed that was a possibility, but there was always some other story or urgent thing going on that was in the foreground so I didn't really think about it. I only watched s1 a few weeks ago, and had it spoiled for me by the person who recommended it to me, who said "there's some crazy tyler durden poo poo in this show". He never said who it was, but when you are looking for a tyler durden situation, is very easy to notice all the hints during all scenes with Mr Robot (the way nobody seems to react to what he says, even when he being loud; the way nobody talks directly to him or even looks directly to him when Elliot is present etc). I also guessed he was his father in that scene when he throws Elliot at the stones But I never guessed that Darlene was his sister, so there was still this twist for me. And I really liked how it changes her character completely but it without feeling artificial. Because at first she is just like the crazy free girl who takes a lot of liberties and forces intimacy with some guy he just met, and her character feels natural and her scenes works. And then she was actually his sister all along and still her character and her actions feels natural and her scenes still works. Someone said above that "tyler Durden" is now a somewhat overused trope but they handled it pretty well and it was good, and I agree 100%
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HorseRenoir posted:Remember that initial ratings report that said the premiere was the lowest rated epidode yet? Turns out that more than half the audience either watched it on DVR or VOD: http://www.businessinsider.com/mr-robot-season-2-premiere-ratings-2016-7 That reminds me of something Ive asked earlier but nobody answered: is there any legal way to watch this show outside the USA? I suppose its ratings would increase tenfolds if you add all the people all over the world pirating it. Last week I searched for a way to watch the premiere and pay for it and could not find any, cause I live in south america. We got netflix here but no hulu. Amazon Prime has it but will not allow it to non-american customers. Its amazing that we still dont have anything really like Steam for movies and TV
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Escobarbarian posted:like iTunes, you mean? iTunes has it? I dont have a mac EDIT: vvvvvv I dont have windows either. But really, Im outdated. I never knew itunes sold video. To my defense, last time I used it was a decade ago Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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JazzFlight posted:I dunno if this episode added to or took away from the institution theory. I guess it took away from it a bit unless they're playing the long game with retcon flashbacks later. How can the scene with the fat man and the beaten programmer guy could be explained inside institution theory? If Elliot is inside and institution, so is he. And Elliot could not be imagining that scene, since he wanst on it. I am now 100% convinced that it is bullshit Episode was maybe a bit slow, but good. Elliot walking around tripping like hell was awesome, Elliot eating the pills from thew vomit, Elliot meltdown at the church group. Its a great character and the actor is really killing it. And FBI lady is right now my second favorite character Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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JazzFlight posted:Craig Robinson isn't a patient (he's a staff member) and the theory could still work. Hmm, yes, you are right. Still, I dont believe it. And I hope is not true, cause it would make his scenes walking around the streets completely high less cool
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Ok, and I guess is also still possible that Leo would be selling pills inside the institution (maybe he steals from the place pharmacy). But how come Elliot got to stay 5 days without sleep and clearly shitfaced all the time, vomiting all over the place, without any doctors or nurses bothering him?
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I just though: Tyrell killed Romero on Mr Robot's order
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Personally I think it was Tyrell who pulled the trigger, but the idea was from Mr Robot
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Weaponized Cum posted:well don't ever watch Narcos because the Colombian cartel guys speak 100% Mexican Spanish Pablo Escobar himself is played by a Brazilian actor and his Spanish is just awful. But still, I think is a good show
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I was a little puzzled by that chess too. I didnt paid that much attention to the moves, but I play chess since I was a kid and I never had a stalemate, and I dont think is even possible to have one with that many pieces still on board (I might be wrong about that)
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Its probably something really horrible, but not pedo. So organ trafficking or something
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Chadzok posted:It's very different to the first season. I love the paranoia of all the characters - the feeling that the audience is being deliberately kept in the dark on major plot points really works well with all the main characters being in danger in multiple ways. As much as I want to scoff at the mental institution theories there is reasonable doubt that what we are seeing is actually happening the way it is presented, particularly given the 'twist' of the first season and his monologue at the start of this one. It's all well-paced and not rushing to a conclusion. Loving it. I agree with all this. Im loving this season. The one thing that bugs me a bit is that they talk about the 5/9 like a huge event that broke the world, but then that's not what we see. Most of the time everything seems to be going on like always Also, after this ep Ive jumped off the institution boat. There's Darlene apparently talinkg about their mother and, more importantly, its really hard to make sense of Ray and the final scene in thew episode this context
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Why did Tyrrel killed that woman again? It was just a psycho moment or we got any kind of explanation for that?
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JazzFlight posted:If the institution theory falls through and everything is as it seems, then the first 5 episodes of weird build-up about where he is just became wasted potential. We're to then believe that his actual mother is just hanging out around the house with no interaction at all with anyone? Why does his therapist's room now have an odd light fixture in it (similar to his house) that wasn't in the first season? How convenient it becomes that Ray "knew the chaplain" at the group meetings and got Elliot's journal. Why is the diner so institutional with its cafeteria lines? Ok, those are good points, but IDK, I guess we have to wait and see
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Grem posted:I'd like to hear a doubter of the institution theory explain the door slam before Ellitot meeting Gideon at "home" and the basketball hitting an invisible chain link fence, both from the first episode of this season. What with the door slam? And I could not find "the basketball hitting an invisible chain link"
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Well I guess we can explain both as not so good choices by the sound efffects guys edit: personally, Im not sold on the institution theory. But the one thing I find hard to explain otherwise is the fact that Elliot supposedly lives with his mother but makes all his meals in this strange big restaurant that really looks like a hospital restaurant Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Aug 7, 2016 |
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I prefer that Elliot was saved through blind luck. Him loving with a crazy mans head to convince him to murder him is very implausible, supervillain levels of implausible
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I dont like institution theory because I dont like the idea this show needs a mind blow "fight club like" reveal each season It was awesome in the first season, but it becomes kind of a lame gimmick if they gonna do it every season That said, I think is very possible indeed
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precision posted:His mother doesn't exist and he's living in an empty house. That actually makes some sense. It would explain why he never eats with her
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Doctor Butts posted:Why would he shoot himself? It makes no sense and would be beyond stupid. Its like "it was all a dream!!" again but the whole loving season I also think Elliot really wanted to help Ray, cause Ray helped him. But at same time, it seems like he did needed access to a computer and had no other way, otherwise why would he do his thing in Ray's office, where he had to hide it from the thug guy, instead of going to a lan house or to fsociety hideout or Angela's house or something
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Snak posted:I thought that he explicitly told us that he wasn't allowing Mr. Robot to access computers because he couldn't be trusted. well, that was before he decided to help against the FBI But I like precision theory above
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Paperhouse posted:Friends probably don't hack the FBI from their friend's computer. They also probably don't do it under the watchful eye of some security guy unless there is no other option He only wrote the malware, he dindt hacked the FBI there (as far as I understood) But yeah, if he had another computer to use, why do it there with a thug watching over his shoulder
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Shooting Blanks posted:I...don't even get the reference. Me neither. Great weird episode. A bit slow and the sitcom segment was maybe a bit too long, but awesome anyway. loving Alf, that was something I didn't see coming. But goddam they leave us in two cliffhangers like that, I wish I could binge what this poo poo Tyrell is definitely dead.
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Benson Cunningham posted:Is that lawyer ever going back to her apartment? Not even to check on poo poo? Yeah, this is bugging me a bit. How long has been, a week? She could come back at any minute, it is the worst hideout
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nickmeister posted:The FBI lady is awkward as gently caress. She sure is, but I guess this is what I like most about her
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Ray is also all kinds of cool and Leon is hilarious. This season introduced a lot of awesome new characters
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EL BROMANCE posted:Sure, but that's not the mindset people who run dark markets have. The only bit of non realism is that Ray seems to be competent when it comes down to dealing with people in a violent way, where the real DPRs are scrawny libertarian nerds masturbating while fantasizing about being a gangster on a computer. He seems more like a real gangster that decided to try an e-commerce. He is not a tech guy himself, he hires nerds to run the thing for him
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I disagree. Its well directed and Im interested in all plots going on. Its slow, but slow can be good. Im watching it because its enjoyable to watch and intriguing, not just because I want to know how it ends. Compare it to GoT last season, for example, which is the exact opposite: just plot points being hit one after the other, like checking off items from a list, all character motivations are artificial and forced just to arrive at the next plot point. Its loving awful
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Antti posted:The big question or plot-driver in S1 was "Will f-society hack Evil Corp and put the financial system in meltdown?" This exactly
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I was thinking yesterday: is kinda missing that the show never mentions bitcoins. After they deleted all the regular digital money, would not make sense that bitcoins would became very very important? edit: vvvvv humm no, I didnt. But now that you mentioned, I do remember the IT guy saying something about bitcoins wallet being emptied or something Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Aug 14, 2016 |
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SlipkPIe posted:Bitcoins would never become important no matter what global crisis happened I dont think so. In a world where all the money left is cash and there's being controlled because there's not enough for everyone, bitcoins would certainly have its moment
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Bape Culture posted:How would it? It's still tied to real money in that generally people cash out bitcoins for real goods and services?? Im no specialist, I never even used bitcoins. But In a world where most money is gone, I would think that this already established alternative money would became very valuable
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2024 03:41 |
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So institution theory was almost right after all. But it was really well done and prison actually makes a lot more sense, considering all. Everything fitted very nicely I actually almost guessed it on the basketball court scene, the thought of that being in prison crossed my mind for an instance Leon got me completely off guard though
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