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Thinking out loud. Mithross' bullshit game had two scum teams. We've seen one set of people flip here as a two person team. Let's assume for a minute that there are two scumteams, even though there was no NK last night. Which means that we currently have: 8 total people left -1 Kumba not in Votefinder That's a total of 7 people who can make the cuddle happen. 4 town vs. 3 non-town (Chaos 3p + 2 unknown scum) would be plausible today and put us at LYLO. It's also possible Chaos is our only non-town entity left since there was no NK other than my shot last night, unless Jake for some reason was the NK target and Asiina protected him. Or something else went on behind the scenes; I suppose it's possible that Mags protected/copped someone who was the NK target.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:05 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 22:39 |
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Mithross posted:I was roleblocked last night, I'm Norstein Bekkler. That is why the house of horrors is closed today. I'm outside of time and space, which is why I get a small bonus to all events. Was anyone else roleblocked at any time during the game?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:06 |
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Opopanax posted:In Avalon/Resistance I have a tendency to throw the first game as scum, simply because of the target it paints on you Coming back to this, Opop is one of the first people to float the "you bring down the chances of an event succeeding" idea in thread, which we now know the FATE team had. I've been operating under the assumption that Opop was town since he killed TT but if there are two scum teams this could be a scumslip.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:10 |
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Mithross posted:Probably. I got a bonus to the event (although not the same bonus a 1000ad person would have given), so either Gato is buff or we were sabotaged. Mithross actually floats this idea earlier than Opop.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:11 |
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Mithross posted:I gave you a short, dickish answer yesterday, I just got to this point in the thread. To be a little more clear, my role depends entirely on the actions of others to let me use abilities. As of yet, I haven't gotten to do anything with it. Part of that is us failing both challenges. (Sorry Opop, I wasn't sure you were around, and hoped my lesser bonus would be enough to let us win) Mithross, can you explain why you know you were roleblocked if your night ability is very dependent on winning challenges?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:12 |
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Mithross posted:I was roleblocked last night, I'm Norstein Bekkler. That is why the house of horrors is closed today. I'm outside of time and space, which is why I get a small bonus to all events. Yeah, this is a contradiction of what you said in the post I just quoted. What gives?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:14 |
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Opopanax posted:The post you quoted was in response to you yourself asking why scum would tank a mission Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm having trouble remembering the specifics of where and when the information about tanking poo poo and all of that and it's making my brain hurt. Probably is a dead end and the only useful information was TT scumslipping.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:18 |
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Tremendous Taste posted:Dude already role claimed, stop trying so hard This is the last thing I will say about JakeP: I don't think taste and Jake are on the same team at all but taste did a whole bunch of character assassination in response to my casework on him and if you compare the tone of taste and Jake they are pretty identical. This is why I am so insistent that Jake is scum: he's not basing his case on me on the poo poo I've done beyond finding every single thing he can nitpick about me and using it to say I'm bad at mafia. It's really lovely casework. Anyway I know this opinion is unpopular so I will drop it for today but I just want people to keep it in their minds moving forward.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:19 |
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Mithross posted:Probably because I got 20 sp from jakes sword, and someone put 2 and 2 together Wasn't the shop closed yesterday?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:24 |
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CapitalistPig posted:The merchant is gone early very mysterious, Norstein Bekkler's tent of horrors is still up though! Yeah, I am pretty sure the merchant never came back, Mithross.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:26 |
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##vote Mithross that is straight up a lie, caught yoooou
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:28 |
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Opopanax posted:You could do what I did and read in context. How did you even get that quote if you weren't looking at the thread? By reading the thread and then not understanding what you were saying. I'm really tired of people telling me I can't play mafia and will rage quit if it continues. It's one thing to call my actions scummy and disingenuous but to insinuate that I am an idiot who can't read and is poo poo at this game is incredibly grating and making it unfun when I am putting forth effort. I don't want to play in that game, please stop.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:41 |
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chaoslord posted:Quid is an Actual Scum So when I caught Mithross in a lie about buying an item yesterday, you think I made that up? Or what?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:42 |
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It was in context, I just didn't get what you were saying at the time. It seemed out of nowhere.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:44 |
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Also I guess I didn't actually read my post because I know my content is town
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:45 |
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I'd like to hear Mithross' response before I break it down for you if you don't mind.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:51 |
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I also don't really value your opinion on my being scum that much since you by your own admission don't give a crap about who gets dunked But I will explain my thought process once Mithross explains his dillyo.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 00:53 |
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chaoslord posted:Much like Mithross yesterday saying I never explained my votes, saying I don't give a crap about who gets dunked is a pretty generous (mis)reading of my posts. I wanted Taste dunked. I wanted WWM dunked. I wanted "Not me" dunked when it was becoming me vs Chic, especially when it could have given me an out if they flipped scum. I have very much cared about dunks. That line of events is disingenuously presented. I was posting and then I wandered away to do something else (in this case, pick up some packages from my apartment complex.) I came back and the event was full. Am I scum for getting my mail, chaoslord?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 01:05 |
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My point being you have absolutely no idea why I didn't join the event and to create a chain of causality based on KB's vig promise when the event was basically insta-jumped on is garbage.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 01:05 |
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Mithross posted:I never once said I bought an item, I said I got SP yesterday, and that my role relies mostly on town winning challenges. How do you know you were roleblocked?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 01:06 |
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I am now going to watch Modern Family with my girlfriend, if another person promises to vig me if I don't post in the thread please don't assume it is because I am scum thanks.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 01:06 |
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chaoslord posted:You're right, I don't know. That's why I said I think. You wouldn't be the first person to use "Oh no I was AFK" as a bad guy, so combined with the continued pushing of Jake I feel good about it. If you really did get your mail, though, then I hope you got something good! My mailbox was empty today. Not that I was expecting anything I got the two records from my record of the month club. Mithross, I am still waiting on why you knew you were roleblocked.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 01:32 |
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Mithross posted:Also, the merchant never came back, but each time has had a shop. That's where taste got the magic water and jurassic soup; there was a different shop in 65 million bc, like there is now in another world. It's been in the OP each day. So I could have bought an item, actually. Can someone corroborate this is true? I see nothing about this in Pig's posting. The only reference to the shop was the merchant, which Pig specifically said was gone and the Horror Tent was still open. I see nothing in thread to indicate that items were purchaseable to the general public in 65mil BC and I remember looking at it and seeing it was closed.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 01:58 |
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I can't figure this game out. ##unvote Items existing are throwing off my puzzling out and I just don't have the energy.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:15 |
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Since I promised to show my thought process, I thought Mithross initially had stated that he had no night action and then implied he knew he was roleblocked because his action had failed. When I asked him about that, this response:Mithross posted:Probably because I got 20 sp from jakes sword, and someone put 2 and 2 together ...read to me as "well duh, because someone knew I bought an item and put 2 and 2 together and roleblocked me," implying that his item action had failed which was why he knew he was roleblocked. Might have been a stretch. But now I'm wondering again because the item purchases are public in thread (at least in terms of them disappearing) and I don't even remember if his shop was selling poo poo. And since the scumteam were the only one who really had SP beyond Mithross and would know who was purchasing what...this doesn't make a lot of sense as a reason. I'm going to ##vote Mithross again. I don't like the way his claim has played out and enough of it is not adding up.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:19 |
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Opopanax posted:Although going by Taste's PM I guess if he's scum he wouldn't have had enough to buy it, so that's a good sign Unless scumteam getting points from failed poo poo has allowed him money to do so. Has there been anything else that would have given KB enough money for that? Asiina is the only person who's been on two events and one of them failed.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:20 |
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Although she wouldn't be announcing she got the shelter. Unless she bought both.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:20 |
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Quidnose posted:Asiina is the only person who's been on two events and one of them failed. I am actually not sure this is true hold on
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:20 |
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Event 1: Asiina, Mithross, Taste - Failed, no SP delivered to town. TT we know got silver points re: his role PM. Chaos lord gets Magic Water, usage unknown. Chic gets Jurassic Soup, empowers her Mithross receives 20 SP from the Jake sword. Event 2: Chaos, Mithross, Chic. Failed, presumably from Chaos. No silver points awarded to town. Event 3: KB, Asiina, Opop. Won, silver points received for town. The only people who have publicly received Silver Points are Taste (re: failure), Mithross (20sp), and KB, Asiina, and Opop. Asiina says she spent her SP on the Shelter which cost 15sp. So the reward is somewhere between 15 and 25sp since the Blade was out of reach. The means only a few people could have bought the blade: 1. Asiina, who was on both events and would have gotten money from the Event 1 failure if she is scum. 2. Mithross, who would have gotten money from two failed events if he is scum. Nobody else should be able to afford it at this point. Mithross, did you buy the blade?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:27 |
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Asiina posted:Screw it, I'm impatient. this is my favorite thing in the game
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:27 |
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Hmm, Opop, did you buy the blade?King Burgundy posted:Hah, amazing! I was leaning towards shooting Opop, my gut was telling me the scum was him. Guess not. We don't have any current corroborating evidence that whoever is left as a badman influences events, so I wouldn't make this jump and clear three people just yet.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:29 |
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CapitalistPig posted:Asiina and Jake have fun at the sleepover and they slept in the tent all night long without getting scared! ASIINA REPORT
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:30 |
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KB, did you buy the second blade?
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:31 |
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I know I am being nosy as poo poo but I have a theory
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:31 |
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I am going to go get some ice cream hope that's ok with you Chaos
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:31 |
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Nice, I'm walking to 7/11. Took my phone with me because I am addicted to mafia
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:34 |
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I really want to know if Mithross bought that blade
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:44 |
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If it protects you I would use it in case the sword backfires because I think you're town at this point and want you around.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:45 |
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Dark Horse JakeP kill? (Don't do this even though it would satisfy me greatly)
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 02:49 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 22:39 |
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Opopanax posted:I didn't buy anything because Mid Tonic sounded kind of lame, but I'm going to now because scum must have the aeon blade and that worries me. I think everything's out, bro. Hey KB, can you not kill Mithross until he answers my question and I weigh in?
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