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Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Just had to do a clean format and reinstalled Windows 10. I used powershell to rip out all of the retarded default apps including the store, renamed the Cortana folder to get rid of that crap, but still this piece of poo poo called "paradise beach" keeps reinstalling itself. I hate this. The app itself doesn't bother me, whatever it is, but I just don't want it to decide things by itself like that. What program or part of windows is it that can just install poo poo like that?

And is there a way to get rid of the "try microsoft edge" nag messages on the startup screen? I didn't have those before my format but somehow they're there now.

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Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013


Thanks! That looks great, I hope it works.

There's something therapeutic about formatting a lovely Asus laptop with Windows 10 and deleting all of the bloatware, ads and horseshit it comes with by default, it's like cutting the tumors out of a diseased body. It's healing work.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Windows 10 just hijacked my screen and said something about an update and let me "choose" my privacy settings, i noticed everything was disabled except for a sneaky new setting about gathering data and tailoring ads that it had kindly enabled for me. I just canceled and clicked ask me later.

What's up with this?

Having Windows 10 feels like being engaged in trench warfare with my own computer.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

I'm extremely territorial about my computer and hate anything that installs itself.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Is there any way to complete disable Cortana now? The way I used to do it was to kill the task and then quickly rename the directory it was in. This doesn't work anymore.

There are also new horseshit icons in my start menu that don't seem to be apps, like "get help" and "mixed reality portal", how do I get rid of those?

Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Apr 21, 2017

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Klyith posted:

If they don't have an option for right click -> remove, you can try to follow these instructions:

https://thomas.vanhoutte.be/miniblog/delete-windows-10-apps/
http://mikefrobbins.com/2015/08/20/remove-app-packages-from-windows-10-enterprise-edition/

Second link is more detailed and despite the title saying Enterprise Edition it works exactly the same on any windows with powershell.

(You can also completely remove Cortana this way, but I don't recommend it because Cortana is also responsible for the useful things like type to find on the start menu and such.)

This doesn't work for Cortana for me, in the list of apps in powershell I also don't get anything that seems to match the "get help" stuff that's now in my start menu. Maybe it's just a link or something.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Is there any way to complete disable action center now?

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Ghostlight posted:

It keeps user profile directories and everything stored there, kills the core windows directories like program files and program data, and moves windows to windows.old like an update. Directories that aren't created by a windows install aren't touched providing they are outside of the windows structure that gets nuked - so like c:\porn\ is safe but c:\program files\porn\ isn't.

C:\Temporary files\Faxes\Inbox\0103948901348\Cache\Boring stuff\Oh god please dont look\Porn\

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Is there any good guide available for disabling all of the horseshit in the creator's edition?

For example, I turned off security center but now i get a stupid popup when i boot up my computer telling me to turn it back on.

I basically want my computer to not try to do things for me and turn off as many ads, useless apps and self-installing crap as possible, including cortana.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Ghostlight posted:

Turn your loving anti-virus back on you dingus.

I have antivirus on, obviously. I just don't trust security center to not bug me with popups and invasive poo poo.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

nielsm posted:

I haven't adjusted any settings for Security Center and I don't get any popups or invasive poo poo from it.
It sounds like you adjusted some settings and now you do get popups and invasive poo poo.
Maybe adjusting settings was wrong?

I'd rather run third party and not be told what software to use by my operating system, thanks.

Besides, defender is still on, it's just the central service that keeps track of what i am and am not running that i switched off.

Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Jul 3, 2017

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

SinineSiil posted:

Something important like a automatic scan found nothing or your display brightness is too high to have best battery life even though your computer is plugged in and isn't even using the built-in screen.
First thing can be turned off easily enough and second thing I can just ignore but let's not pretend it doesn't do stupid crap.
I also kind of recall people here recommending to turn it off when someone complained about it for first time and no-one seemed to lost their mind over it. (I haven't turned it off myself)

Yeah it was things like that that made me want to turn it off. I used to keep it on, but now that action center and security center are merged, if you want to get rid of annoying things like brightness warnings or saving space popups you have to disable the whole thing.

Security center is not a virus scanner, it just keeps track of what software you run and energy and brightness levels and whatever. I don't need my computer keeping track of what virus scanner and firewall I run. This is not some highly classified device with all of my personal data on it, it's an old gaming laptop that I'll just format in the off chance that a virus does come through, I just need windows to be fast, resource-low and not in my way.

Problem is, even if you disable it, you get warning messages from somewhere telling you to reenable it, which I haven't found a way to get rid of.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

isndl posted:

Microsoft isn't keeping tabs on your antivirus to just to protect your files, it's to prevent you from becoming a transmission vector or part of a botnet and adding to problems for everyone else. How you personally use the PC is irrelevant in that context.

This is like the anti-vaccination of the computing world, you can technically do fine without it but the mindset causes huge problems down the road.

Except I do run an antivirus program and firewall, I just don't want to be bugged by a nosy popup message generator designed for the kind of users who don't know what antivirus even is.

We all know that part of the reason why WIndows increasingly adds features that can't be turned off and try to manage all aspects of how you run your computer (including the move from traditional programs to apps that can only be removed in powershell if at all), is to control how users use their computer, not because these features are good for everybody who runs Windows. Removing the user's control serves the purpose of embedding more ads that are increasingly harder to get rid of.

The latest step was to merge action center and security center, the next step is probably to remove control panel and merge it with the settings app so your PC becomes a glorified smartphone, and to embed security center/action center in that. Ultimately they'll probably try to force people to use Windows Store to install anything at all. In that context, what's wrong with trying to retain control of what your computer does?

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

I just suddenly got a pop up out of nowhere urging me to log into the microsoft store. I manually deleted the store app months ago because I don't use it. Has anyone had this popup recently and know which app causes it to appear, so I can delete it?

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

I just wish steam and games and stuff would run on Linux. That's the only reason I don't use it.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Phoenixan posted:

Is there any way to stop that "Sign in to the Microsoft Store" notification? I get it every day even though I'm signed in.

I deleted the store app and only got it once so far.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

So another dumbass update dropped and now I can't type in Japanese anymore. When I switch with shift-alt it goes to Japanese IME but it stays in romaji mode with no apparent way to change to kana input.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

is there a way to make windows defender permanently shut the gently caress up about a certain file that i deem safe but which it tries to quarantine as a threat every day? i click on "allow on device" every time but this is a daily chore

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

an ms office crack, i'm assuming the reason it's so persistent about it is because it's not in microsoft's interests that i have this file, not because it's dangerous

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

it's not triggering when i run the software, it just says "hey this file is installed here we are removing it", it only started happening after a certain update which also deactivated my office installation, it worked without triggering defender for months before that

i use libreoffice but there are some cases where i need an excel or word file to behave in a certain way, libreoffice often behaves oddly when you get a file from someone else who has saved it in word

Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Sep 1, 2020

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

MikusR posted:

They do. And classify them as hack tools. Same with many nirsoft utilities. But you can easily add them to exclusions.
The reason, I think, is that the same definitions are used in business settings. And in those cases it's better to be safe than sorry.

yeah, this particular file is classified as a hack tool. i dunno, i allowed it to quarantine it and my office seems to remain activated, i'll see what happens. the laptop doesn't really contain anything sensitive (including no website logins or anything, it's just the one i take to work to show powerpoints and stuff), so i'm not too concerned.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

mystes posted:

Just got to run that office crack defender thinks is a trojan on the laptop you take to work. No big deal.

it's a powerpoint machine that i hook up to an overhead projector to explain the present continuous tense to a bunch of 15 year olds. somehow i dont think the chinese government is interested in stealing my grammar secrets

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

CaptainSarcastic posted:

If that's the case and you're making your own presentations it seems like Libre Office could probably take care of that. I've used it as my main office software even when I have actual Office available because I find it much less irritating than the Microsoft product. I've used it for Powerpointy stuff and it was more than competent, as I recall.

Hell, now that I think about it's Powerpoint that made me start using Open Office (predecessor of Libre Office) in the first place. My job required me to take people's pre-existing Powerpoints and convert them to web slideshows, and the export tool in Powerpoint would only save images as fuckoff huge bitmaps. Open Office would let me choose the image file, and actually spat out halfway decent HTML code instead of the weird bloated crap Powerpoint itself would generate.

yeah i use the libreoffice version when making my own documents, but problems arise when i try to open stuff in libreoffice that was saved in ms office by someone else, powerpoints end up all scrambled (text too big or offscreen etc), word files tend to have the pages messed up, which is annoying when it's a form or something that i need to fill in that's supposed to have certain things on a certain page (like the signature at the bottom, i've had that part end up on a separate page in libreoffice, i'm assuming this is some kind of subtle difference in the libreoffice and word file systems that microsoft uses to give people a reason to buy their software

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

an annoying problem thats been bugging me: i have my windows region set to "english (US)" since if i set it to my actual region it will do all kinds of annoying things like auto-translate stuff into dutch

but i want my time to be displayed european style, so 16:44 instead of "4:44 pm". ive changed this in the time and date settings, but it keeps changing back automatically, i guess based on my region. this is a small thing but it's stupid and annoying, how can i make the changes stick?

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Fame Douglas posted:

Did you change the Regional format in Time & Language -> Region? That one shouldn't auto-change at all. If it does, check whether some application is forcing language settings.

well the region doesn't change (i want it to stay on english(US) and it does) but the custom time settings that i apply on top of that from the "change data formats" menu don't stick, i don't think it's an app doing it it just seems like windows is going "no! you are in the US so you want it to say pm, regardless of what settings you chose"

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

i think this sort of thing is especially annoying for dutch people because were a basically semi-anglophone society who hate any kind of pandering in terms of language and want to switch into whatever language we please all the time. i hate how google handles this too

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Fame Douglas posted:

Just change the Regional format to your region, then instead of going the "change data formats" route - it's the solution to your problem. That's what that settings is there for. It won't change anything about the language or keyboard settings. I've been running other regional formats forever, because I dislike AM/PM.

the problem with this is that things like the xbox app then try to give me "regional content" which in practice means half of the stuff gets translated into dutch, like the app itself will still be in english but the categories will have dutch names. i don't want dutch on my computer, it's not a computer language

it really is infuriating, it's changed back again this morning even though i unchecked the "auto adjust the time" setting to see if that would do anything

Saukkis posted:

Have you tried choosing Regional Format "English (Netherlands)"?

same for this setting, although it changes different things

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Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Fame Douglas posted:

Do you have English (US) as the top language (with a Dutch keyboard) as well as the Windows display language set to English (US)? Half-translated Store apps happen when those aren't' in sync, from what I've seen. I have English category names in the Xbox app even with a non-English Regional format, but I need to keep English on top of the list.

i use a US keyboard and yeah they are all in sync, i used to have it set to "english (world)" but that still results in dutch stuff, it only stopped when i changed it to "english (US)"

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