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Hey I'm glad you went through with this In Training, Haruhi's maybe my favorite show and usually gets interesting reactions from people I don't think it's overhyped, overrated, or any less complex than it's most ardent evangelists claim Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Something to keep in mind for all 'serious haruhi watchers' - who is the author? Most important works of film/tv postmodernism, from Hitchcock to Evangelion fit the auteur theory in some way or another, but Haruhi is unusual in that it's a stylistically coherent work of the strongest order without any single dominant voice behind it, to my knowledge. In other words Keep this in mind, because it's constantly reflected in the plot. There are lots of shows without an 'author,' but I don't know any that manage Haruhi's level of consistency and self consciousness. Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Aug 15, 2015 |
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A big reason to insist on broadcast order is that it forces even the dimmest people (myself included) to think hard about narrative structure, and how the order of events change the meaning not only of everything that follows but everything prior. This idea is baked into every level of the show, and it's tasty. When I watched it a second and third time I tried making up my own episode orders to deliberately change the meaning of things we can't talk about yet, and sure enough it works well. Everything in Haruhi is in a state of ambiguity, and experiencing it chronologically, while fine, just isn't the most fun, or, as Haruhi would say, the most interesting way to do it. It's a seriously modular show, and definitely by design, but I think they put a lot of thought into the broadcast order. I am convinced every episode matters and there is no filler. Orthodox Haruhism or nothing, imo Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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I just wanted to let you all know, in advance, that every morning I wake up and open palm slam a vhs into the slot. its hare hare yukai and right then and there I start doing the moves alongside the main character, yuki nagato, and so on
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 00:29 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:yuki is the main character in my nightmares I envy you
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 00:38 |
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CrazySalamander posted:I actually enjoyed The Disappearance of Yuki Nagato better than Haruhi, because it had less Haruhi, who I always found annoying. I watched Haruhi for the characters that weren't her. She was grating and annoying but the other characters made it worth it.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 01:09 |
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I mean look, Haruhi is a show where the structure matters a lot, and the form informs the feeling. There's lots of reasons to love the show and I think its structural sophistication is a good one. That's gonna sound silly if you think it's all big budget waifu nonsense, but if you think that then you haven't watched or haven't watched closely. But I admit I really have no idea how it works, only that I can see it working, and so can a lot of other fans. Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Aug 15, 2015 |
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same
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 04:40 |
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Hey anyone read Hyperion? Does it have much to do with the show?
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 04:42 |
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Maybe we should put Haruhi-chan on the agenda. Just saying, it's a classic in its own right, and not that long.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 05:10 |
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I need to watch that ONA again, from what I remember it's highs were never as good as Haruhi-chan but it was more consistent
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 21:34 |
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Davincie posted:it was.. uhh lets say very cheap Yeah but I remember liking that about it, or at least not minding it. Maybe I'll check it out again this weekend
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 21:38 |
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littleorv posted:CST is the only real time. give my regards to the big country
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2015 04:19 |
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yo 5PM PST represent, just don't commute-post
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2015 04:30 |
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Namtab posted:What will win, my love of anime or my love of being a good nurse no man should die for an anime. but for this anime... maybe...
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2015 04:33 |
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for anyone looking for some background material before we get going I recommend https://www.gutenberg.org/files/18269/18269-h/18269-h.htm#SECTION_II and/or http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Always-Wanted-Afraid-Hitchcock/dp/0860915921 I have an uncle who works at kyoani and he tells me their adaptation was heavily influenced by Pascal and Lacan, and anyway they are pretty legit: 164 He who does not see the vanity of the world is himself very vain. Indeed who do not see it but youths who are absorbed in fame, diversion, and the thought of the future? But take away diversion, and you will see them dried up with weariness. They feel then their nothingness without knowing it; for it is indeed to be unhappy to be in insufferable sadness as soon as we are reduced to thinking of self, and have no diversion. Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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The Colonel posted:You've gone too far this time. we'll see!
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2015 09:06 |
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StandardVC10 posted:I wonder how Kyon got that higher-angle shot of the school roof at the beginning of Yuki and Mikuru's climactic battle. this has bothered me for years
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 15:24 |
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Dick Spacious CPA posted:Taniguchi seems like the type of guy that would have one of those drones. he helped them get that shot for the film but then he accidentally crashed the drone through a window on the upper floor of the school and got in trouble. canon
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 15:28 |
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thank you in training
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 15:33 |
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what a time to be alive
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 16:14 |
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Satoru Kōsaki was the composer for Haruhi and Lucky Star and some other stuff and I think he's really good and should be mentioned
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 16:33 |
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yay Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Aug 18, 2015 |
# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 19:51 |
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I was gonna say best frames of the show so far but then, if you include the ED, and looking back at some of the other gifs, it's like gently caress, this show is so good
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 20:28 |
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In Training posted:I wish I was better at making gifs because I can only use free software that screws up all the colors and I feel like I'm doing the show a disservice. you're doing great! but admittedly nothing will ever be enough
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 20:36 |
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.jpg posted:I noticed that too, though I think the desks might be cg and the lighting done in post. Even so, it's still a level of dedication you don't see very often. no doubt there's a ton of post work when it comes to the lighting, but I think it's in good taste, and it just feeds my conviction that kyoani has a godlike understanding of space and how to have fun turning space into 2d
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2015 20:50 |
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the only really tasteless cg desks I can remember will be coming up later in the melancholy arc, (and even then the blocking and composition is great) - y'all might remember what I'm talking about, it's one of the things people point to as "so 2006" or whatever, but there might be more awkward cg desks I've intentionally forgotten because of severe bias
Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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In Training posted:There's some CGI zooms here and there but I think I know what you're talking about. the particularly egregious CGI is used well though, since (later Melancholy spoilers) its used for alien super powers. Really heightens the sense of confusion and bewilderment. I know it was likely a cost-saving measure at its core but they make still manage to make it thematically cohesive maybe it's not as well known as I thought but I bet we'll see it come up in this thread when we get to the proper episode Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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If you've (tried to) read the light novels, you know Kyon's narrative voice is one of the biggest improvements of the adaptation. Or maybe the translation is just lovely I dunno but he's so uncool in the LNs
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 19:46 |
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Kytrarewn posted:Supplementary viewing: Season 2 of Symphogear features another character voiced by Sugita Tomokazu (Kyon) dealing with (Haruhi episode BroadcastOrder 4-5 major spoiler) another high school girl with ridiculous levels of apparent power and reacting very differently. Is it worth 10 hours of your time watching s1 and s2 for the sake of maybe a total of 45 minutes of Sugita Tomokazu if you aren't otherwise interested in Symphogear? Probably not, but it's something I found interesting while watching it. meanwhile supplementary reading: The World as Will and Idea, all of the pages
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 20:10 |
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anyone who owns haruhi merch should post it, there is no shame and now is the time only thing I ever owned was the first light novel which I thrifted after getting halfway through and realizing it wasn't worth hurting myself for the sake of anime research. great drawings though. Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Aug 19, 2015 |
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StandardVC10 posted:Not technically an emptyquote. you can empty quote bro this is a safe space, especially for a righteous cause
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 22:40 |
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ChubbyThePhat posted:I find to be the cause of all long standing avatars. yeah man you're an og in my eyes but yeah effort and dollars (another thing haruhi is "all about")
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 23:05 |
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In Training posted:every shot of her breasts yes alec, I'll take 'things that are good about mikuru' for 100
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 01:15 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:Uh huh....so...Nagato's an alien.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 01:23 |
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 01:37 |
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the score is good, I'm tellin ya
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 01:40 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:So Kyon knows about the weirdness then. Wish he'd share with us. kyon doesn't even know about his internal weirdness, much less what's actually happening around him. he's cool
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