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Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.


Howdy, folks! Leavemywife here, with another SSLP of another RPG!

And a Dragonball Z RPG at that! It's a fairly solid game in its own right, covering from just after the death of King Piccolo to the fight with Vegeta. That might not sound like a whole hell of a lot game, but we'll get about twenty hours out of it, as there's some side stuff we can do, as well as bits of story you might not expect covered in a DBZ game. It's got a good cast of characters, and had a lot of love put into it. For those of you reading this thread, I'm going to guess you're unfamiliar with the game, which leads me to my spoiler policy.

:ducksiren:SPOILER POLICY:ducksiren:

So, when it comes to Dragonball Z, pretty much everyone knows about it; we all know that Goku becomes a Super Saiyan, Vegeta becomes a good guy, and that Chiaotzu sucks. Knowing that information, spoilers for the series at large are perfectly okay. However, spoilers for the game itself? Not so cool. There are some cool things in this game, some twists and turns you might not expect, so don't go spoiling things within the game. There is some overlap between the two, as this game covers the opening sagas of the series. So, for something like that, we know that Piccolo kills Raditz and Goku, but let's not talk about specifics within the game itself, y'dig?

Voting Information

Well, there might not be a lot of voting this go 'round. We can't rename anybody, which is unfortunate, as that means there's not going to be any Bowsers here. Which makes me sad, but it's okay, because I'm sad on the inside and you don't have to deal with that. However, we have a party limit of three, so I guess every now and again, I'll ask you guys who should be in the active party.

Update Schedule

I'll try and update every two or three days, but occasionally, I'll get antsy and fire off an update before two days is up. You all know how I update; I'm a madman about it.

I also announce when I update on Twitter, if you're into that sort of thing.

With all of that out of the way, let's head out.

Updates

Update One: The Story Begins With The End Of Their Training!!
Update Two: Their Final Exam! Can They Survive It!?
Update Three: Orin Temple's Fighters Defeated! Can Krillin Restore Honor To The Temple!?
Update Four: Yamcha's Hideout Seized! Can He Take It Back!?
Update Five: Tien's Self-Doubt! Can He Overcome It!?
Update Six: The Tournament Has Arrived! Who's The Strongest In The World!?
Update Seven: The Fate Of The World Hangs In The Balance!! Can Goku Defeat Piccolo To Save Earth!?
Update Eight: Chi Chi's Wedding Dress Will Burn!? Can Goku Put Out The Flames Of Fire Mountain!?
Update Nine: Guardian Of The Furnace? Is Annin Too Fiery For Goku!?
Update Ten: Old Foes Return! Why Are They Seeking The Egg Of The Fire-Eater Bird!?
Update Eleven: Grandma Hakkake In Trouble!! Can Her Honey Be Recovered!?
Update Twelve: Ox-King Can Wait! Sight-Seeing Must Be Done!!
Update Thirteen: One In A Million!? Can Goku Overcome The Odds!?
Update Fourteen: Goku's Brother Appears! What Does He Want!?
Update Fifteen: The Ultimate Team Up!! Goku And Piccolo Combine Their Strength!!
Update Sixteen: Raditz Confronted!! Are Goku And Piccolo Strong Enough!?
Update Seventeen: Piccolo Takes Matters Into His Own Hands! Can Gohan Become A Warrior!?
Update Eighteen: Gohan's True Power!? Can Piccolo Contain It!?
Update Nineteen: Krillin's Most Dangerous Mission!! Will He Survive!?
Update Twenty: A Child's Life In Danger!! Can Tien And Krillin Retrieve The Medicine!?
Update Twenty One: Exciting Update Title!! Yamcha Rejoins The Party!!
Update Twenty Two: The Sacred Land of Korin!! Their Training Begins!!
Update Twenty Three: Into The Hermit's Cave!! Will The Sacred Water Be Recovered?!
Update Twenty Four: Kami's Training Begins!! But Has Gohan Survived His Half-Year Alone?!
Update Twenty Five: Piccolo Returns!! Will Gohan Finally Begin His Training?!
Update Twenty Six: Goku Arrives In Otherworld!! But Can He Survive Hell?!
Update Twenty Seven: Goku Escapes From Hell!! Has He Found King Kai's Place?!
Update Twenty Eight: Princess Snake's Hospitality!! Can Goku Survive Her Kindness?!
Update Twenty Nine: Goku Arrives On King Kai's Planet!! But Can He Qualify To Start Training?!
Update Thirty: Goku's Training Begins!! Can He Defeat An Old Foe?!
Update Thirty One: The Search For The Dragon Balls Begins!! But Where To Start Looking?!
Update Thirty Two: Gohan Has Two Dads!! They're Going To Play At Muscle Tower!!
Update Thirty Three: The Yunzabit Heights!! Is The Ice Truly Impenetrable?!
Update Thirty Four: The Ice Melted!! But Who Beat Them To The Dragon Ball?!
Update Thirty Five: The Gentlemen's Is Full!! But Can He Pass The Two-Star Ball?!
Update Thirty Six: Ol' Scratch's Shitter Has Been Flushed!! But Can The Dragon Ball Be Repaired?!
Update Thirty Seven: The Desert Has Its Secrets!! But Is The Six Star Ball One Of Them?!
Update Thirty Eight: The Mysterious Cave!! An Old Foe Emerges!!
Update Thirty Nine: Pilaf's Castle Infiltrated! But Can Our Heroes Survive His Deadly Games?!
Update Forty: Shenron Hasn't Been Summoned Yet!! But Can Our Heroes Defeat The Pilaf Fusion Mech?!
Update Forty One: Gohan Trapped In The Ruins!! Will An Old Friend Be His Salvation?!
Update Forty Two: Thieves In The Ruins?! Have They Taken The Devil's Bracelet?!
Update Forty Three: Master Mutaito's Training Grounds!! Can Kami's Trainees Save Their Friend?!
Update Forty Four: The Ultimate Technique!! But Has Goku Learned It In Time?!
Update Forty Five: The Saiyan Attack Begins!! The First Confrontation!!
Update Forty Six: Nappa Steps Up!! His Power Is Monstrous!!
Update Forty Seven: Goku Arrives!! But Is He Powerful Enough To Stop The Monstrous Nappa?!
Update Forty Eight: The Endgame Begins!!
Update Forty Nine: Secrets In The Sewers!! The East City Ruins Hold A Secret!!
Update Fifty: The Ultimate Enemy!!
Update Fifty One: The Final Battle Begins!! Vegeta Has A Trick Up His Sleeve!!
Update Fifty Two: Vegeta's Trick Has Been Defeated!! But Will That Stop The Prince Of The Saiyans!?


Danaru's Legendary Side Story

Side Story - Super Saiya Densetsu! Update 1


The Legacy of Waffleman

Waffleman_ posted:



Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku is an action RPG made by Webfoot Technologies and published by Infogrames for the Game Boy Advance in 2002. It was not only the first DBZ game on the Game Boy Advance, it was the first DBZ game made by a western studio for a western audience and one of the first GBA games to use full motion video.

It is also quite bad. Boring, repetitive combat, frustrating gameplay, imprecise hitboxes, braindead AI, and an incredibly short running time all contributed to this game somehow selling 1.4 million copies and spawning two sequels which are supposed to be much better.

Leavemywife will be joining me on this journey to see how far DBZ games have come that probably won't last more than three hours.









Lobster Ball GT: The Final Combat


Now, Should I CLEAN the Trash of the Universe? Let's Play Dragonball GT Final Bout!




Final bout is a strange game where your inputs feel more like suggestions than commands and everyone moves like they're trapped in jello. This game features an :effort: English dub where none of the anime voice actors were brought in (mostly because GT wasn't a thing at the time), but instead used an entire unaccredited cast! (Steve Blum is Goku BTW) Not to mention most of the in-fight voice clips are STILL in japanese! There are 10 characters at the start, but you can unlock 6 more by playing the arcade mode. You can also unlock one more character with a code, but that doesn't matter because the game doesn't save your progress so you have unlock everyone every single time you boot up the game!

Joining me on this playthrough of the arcade mode are super warriors of space Mateo360 and Heavy Sigh. There may be another video where I show off the rest of the unique cast as well as the other modes, but I would have to force myself to play more of this game. We'll see. With that said here we go!

WAIT! Hold up

Before you watch the LP I do want to show off the one thing I like about Final Bout, the original opening. Okay, carry on.

Video #1: "You Jerk!"




Leavemywife posted:

Hey, there, folks! Today, instead of an update, there's a little bit of some more DBZ related media, in the form of Battle Stadium D.O.N.! It's a Smash Bros-esque fighter, but featuring characters from Dragon Ball Z, One Piece, and Naruto (hence the D.O.N. in the title). Join us as we don't introduce ourselves, don't have any idea what is going on, and we come dangerously close to fanfiction territory!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtkzlHEhYlY


Finally, there's also a slot machine minigame that we talked about a little bit for unlocking stuff. If you'd like to see that bullshit in action, look no further than this video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy0PEvbRGSs

Fionordequester posted:

Hello everyone! This is Fionordequester, and welcome to Let's Speed Run Dragon Ball Z - Legend of the Super Saiyan!

[img]http://lpix.org/2308932/Dragon Ball Z - Super Saiya Densetsu (J) (V1.1) [T-Eng0.99Final DragonballZ Translations].2015-12-12 19.10.11.png[/img]

Yes, that's right! There ARE ways to play it fast, and in fact, I wanted to really explore this game. After reading Danaru's LP, I still felt as though there was more to say, and in fact, I actually kind of liked playing this game, even if it is clearly flawed.

Plus, there are all SORTS of ways to game the system, as players in Japan will tell you. In fact, this game was so infamously buggy, that I've seen Japanese websites that call it "Dragon Ball Z - The Super Bug Legend". The programming was so unpolished, in fact, that the designers themselves included a statement about that in the manual! So in addition to seeing this game cleared in a blinding 2 hours, 42 minutes and 33 seconds (not all at once mind you...), you will also be getting bonus videos of all the different glitches you can take advantage of as well?

If all this and more sounds good to you, then come, and step into the Super Saiyan Legend, along with me and my two partners, Blaze Dragon and Covok! LET'S....DO IT!!

DBZ: Legend of the Super Saiyan Episode 1 - The Chase for Gohan! (1st boss defeated)

DBZ: Legend of the Super Saiyan Episode 2 - Montage Mania! (5x Saibamen defeated)

DBZ: Legend of the Super Saiyan Episode 3 - The Burning Battles(Cui Cui Defeated)

DBZ: Legend of the Super Saiyan Episode 4 - Programming Problems (Dodoria Defeated)

Total Time Taken So Far: 59 minutes and 50 seconds



Combat Lobster posted:

Now that Waffleman's Legacy is finished it's time to look forward to a new legacy...

The Legacy of Everyone else and maybe a little Goku II



Webfoot Technologies' follow up to LOG1 Legacy of Goku 2 covers Future Trunks' arrival all the way to the end of the Cell Games. It's a vast improvement over the first game on all fronts including more playable characters, open world map, a way better leveling system, transformations, and improved combat!

This gonna be a long LP, probably the longest I've ever done, but I'm gonna try and cover as much content as I can. Also if you wanna jump in for some co-commentary action and are available anytime from Thursday to Sunday free feel to drop me a line here or through PM. All I ask is that you at least know how to use some kind of sound recording software.

Videos

Youtube Playlist

Part 1 w/ Heavy Sigh

Leave fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jan 28, 2016

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Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
Hey, we've got some fan art to show off!

Daigerus posted:

Belated Christmas gift or early New Years gift, you decide!

Figured this guy needs some love, since I don't recall seeing him in any other DBZ game, and more RPGs in general need to have more of him:



Daigerus was apparently a huge fan of the panda with a gun, and who the hell can blame him? This poo poo is awesome.

Daigerus posted:

You guys ask for really weird things (this coming from someone who just drew a pistol-wielding panda), but who am I to argue?



However, guns can be offensive to some people, so we applied the good ol' fashioned cartoon censoring to the panda's gun, but not his language!

Leave fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Jan 3, 2016

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.
Update One: The Story Begins With The End Of Their Training!!

Howdy, folks! Welcome to the first update of Attack Of The Saiyans! In this update, we'll start our adventure, so let's head out.



This game is an RPG, and it kicks a lot of rear end. It's probably the best DBZ RPG ever made. If I can find a poor schmuck someone looking to run a small side feature, we'll also see an example of a loving terrible DBZ RPG.



We have no other options, so we start a new game, and we immediately come to this shot of Shenron.



He's summoned with the seven Dragonballs, and can grant one wish to who has summoned him. His power is nearly limitless.



I don't know if I've ever written a sentence that has that many a's in it. Holy crap.



King Piccolo is an evil being, one of the biggest bad guys in the original Dragon Ball series, as well as a demon. Kami is the guardian of Earth (his name actually means "God"), and created the Dragon Balls.



King Piccolo had gathered the Dragon Balls, wished for eternal youth, then murdered the poo poo out of Shenron. He was a bad dude. But Kami revived Shenron, rewarding Goku for his defeat of King Piccolo. At first, Kami wasn't cool with bringing the balls back, as he had originally created them to inspire people to acts of heroics and bravery, but people are stupid assholes and wished for selfish poo poo. However, Goku was so nice and loved his friends enough, Kami decided to bring them back.



King Piccolo had killed Master Roshi, Shenron, and Chiaotzu at that point. Krillin had been killed by Tambourine, one of Piccolo's henchmen.



And so ends the info dump there. Holy crap. I know a fair bit about DBZ, but some of the events of DB elude me (as I haven't seen the entire show), so the Dragonball Wiki helped with a lot of that info. And then I got sidetracked looking at the different Shenrons. It's like regular goddamned Wikipedia, but featuring anime and energy beams.



Expect a lot of these title cards. And a lot of different locations; there are plenty of places to visit in this game.



Not every location has these three shnooks sleeping like a bunch of bums, though. The guy on the bed is Yamcha, a former bandit, the bald guy in orange is Krillin, who is the butt of many jokes, and the other guy is Tien, who has another eye in the middle of his forehead. The blue haired lady walking into the room is Launch, and she's a sweetie.



Expect to see a lot of those little emotion bubbles, as they come up pretty often.



When a character is speaking, we get a big ol' portrait of them.



Launch is pretty soft-spoken, so she's not getting through to these guys.







Krillin and Goku are pretty much best friends.



You'll probably get your rear end beat, Krillin. While you may go on to be the strongest human fighter in the series, that's still about as effective as being the biggest hummingbird in a group of hawks.





Krillin gets up and we get the ellipses above his head. Those come up a lot. Don't expect to see all of them, since I'll do what I can to cut out most of them.



As they are occasionally redundant.



This exclamation point is also fairly common. I've never played a Metal Gear game, but I can't see a ! without associating it with the alert noise.



Jesus. Until taking shots of this, I didn't realize how often these came up.



By the way, Krillin is only about as tall as your average eight year old. He's just a little fella. :3:



And he just sneezed.



Leading to the sweatdrop.



It's...Cold? Which leads to sneezing, I guess.



...Oh, no. You don't want Launch to sneeze.







Yeah, she sneezed and changed hair colors.



Whenever Launch sneezes, her personality swaps. Blue-haired Launch is a sweetie, friend to everything. Blonde Launch?



She's kind of a badass, who doesn't care for your poo poo.



To put some more perspective on that, she once tried to blast Goku in the crotch with a laser gun.



I'm not 100% on the context there, but in case you thought I was bullshitting, here's a shot of it.



Anyone in their right mind listens to blonde Launch.



And so ends the cutscene.



We're now in control of our character; we can swap between our leader with the push of a button, but we'll roll as Krillin for a while. I'll explain that bar at the bottom of the screen in the next update, when it becomes relevant.



On the map, that exclamation point marks people and objects you can interact with. There's a ton of goddamned incidental dialog in this game, so expect to see plenty of it.



Master Roshi is a martial arts master, who is currently training these three, and had trained Goku. He's the one who invented the Kamehameha technique and taught it to Krillin, Goku, and Yamcha. We'll be meeting him in a minute.



As there are things to examine in this room!



Oh, yeah, Master Roshi loves porn, by the way. Guy's over 300, so cut him a break.



Just loves his porn. He's the kind of guy, that when he dies, one of his last requests will be to clear his browser history.



There are also items hidden about these spots, such as this Luck Fruit. When used on a character, this permanently raises their Luck stat.





Downstairs is the other level, and room, of Roshi's house. Hell, Roshi himself is right there.



And he is happier than a pig in mud to see us.



At one point, Roshi was pretty much the strongest fighter on Earth, but his age is catching up to him; his students are stronger than he is, but don't let that fool you. He'd still kick any of our asses.



As far as I remember, that does it for the different bubble emotions that we'll see. There might be one or two I've forgotten.



Krillin raises a fair point; Roshi isn't the most active himself, and loves take-out pizza, porn, the internet, video games, and long naps.





Tien actually used to be an antagonist, but with the help of Goku, he sees the error of his ways, and of the teachings from his former Master, Shen. Tien used to be a huge dick, but he's okay now.





Yamcha there used to be a bandit, and fought Goku before, but they quickly became friends. He also used to be afraid of women, but got over that. He also has the hots for Bulma, who we'll meet later on. He also has the hair of a hippie.





I'm going to need to make character portraits. There's a good bit of dialog and cutscenes between dungeons and what-not.



That isn't to say that Roshi is weak, per se; he's got a good bit of power to him, but these fighters are just outpacing him.



Oh, for an amusing anecdote about Roshi, he agreed to train Goku on the condition that the kid would bring him a foxy young lady.



Calm down, Yamcha. It was funny.





"It's your training dungeon for the new players!"





Goku and Krillin did a lot of poo poo when training with Roshi.



He's also the younger brother of Fortuneteller Baba. I don't know if that's relevant right now, but it's something to mention.





Everyone shits their britches over this. Wait, does a karate gi have britches?



Well, if you say so, Krillin.



It's a little early for that, I agree.



He does give us a few items to start with, and they're pretty useful.



Small Beans restore 150 HP to a character. Roshi also gives us 5 Poison Recoveries, which heal Poisoning, and 5 Bind Recoveries, which heal Paralysis. That also ends the scene with Roshi, so we're free to move around again!



And to immediately talk to Roshi again.



Roshi is also known as the Turtle Hermit, and he also lives with a talking Turtle.



Man, now I just realized I'm starving. I wonder if there are chicken fingers in the freezer.



At no point in the game will we need to use a toilet. But it is good to know there's one available if such a need comes up.



There's nothing else to do here, so let's head outside.



Whenever we're in a new location, we get a nice view of it, as well as the name showing up in the lower left corner. The Kame House is in the middle of the ocean, so it amuses me to no end that Roshi loves delivery pizza.



This is Turtle, who is named Turtle, and lives with the Turtle Hermit.



He's also going to explain the save points to us.



They're apparently a creation of the Capsule Corporation, the biggest corporation on the planet, which makes just about anything and everything you'd need, and also pioneered the tech to fit basically anything in a capsule. And I mean anything.





No reason not to follow his advice.





The save point will create a little house or rest area for us to save at, which also fully restores our HP and Ki points (our MP for this game).



There are two slots for saving, if you were curious.



Hey, Turtle, don't be repeating what I already told them!



Really, any time you encounter one of these, there's no reason not to use it. They appear fairly frequently, too, and there's at least one in every dungeon.



But that sums up our first update. Next time, we'll get to some gameplay, do our first dungeon, and punch a lot of snakes!

Stay tuned!

Slur
Mar 6, 2013

It's the Final Countdown.
And so begins a monolithic adventure.

They did a good job with the portraits in this one.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
Oh hell yeah this looks awesome. I never really thought of it, but "<character> used to be a huge dick, but he's okay now." sums up every single one of the Z fighters aside from Goku and Gohan :v:

Also if you're still looking for someone to help with a side feature, I love both DBZ and also terrible RPGs

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

quote:


He's summoned with the seven Dragonballs, and can grant one wish to who has summoned him. His power is nearly limitless.

One of the things I really do appreciate about this series is that when they say "grant any wish you have," they loving mean it. Immortality? Sure! Bring someone (or an entire planets worth of people) back from the dead? You got it! Make a new loving planet for your friends to live on? Let me know when you've got an actually challenging request.

Even if Shenron just wound up becoming a reset button later in the series, the shear scale of the power he was allowed to wield within the narrative is actually somewhat unique.

Keeshhound fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Aug 13, 2015

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Keeshhound posted:

One of the things I really do appreciate about this series is that when they say "grant any wish you have," they loving mean it. Immortality? Sure! Bring someone (or an entire planets worth of people) back from the dead? You got it! Make a new loving planet for your friends to live on? Let me know when you've got an actually challenging request.

My favourite part about this is that Shenron said he couldn't just kill Vegeta and Nappa, which either means he was lying and trying to get them to stop crying to him every time something bad happens, or bringing someone back from the dead is way easier than just killing someone.

I don't know which one I prefer, honestly.

Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007
So whatever happened to Launch in the Manga? I recall reading the entire Dragonball series from the original to the end of Z but Launch just disappears after a while. Did Toriyama just forget about her existence between the endless fighting sequences?

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Danaru posted:

My favourite part about this is that Shenron said he couldn't just kill Vegeta and Nappa, which either means he was lying and trying to get them to stop crying to him every time something bad happens, or bringing someone back from the dead is way easier than just killing someone.

I don't know which one I prefer, honestly.

I think the excuse was that while he held phenomenal cosmic power, he couldn't kill anyone stronger than his creator. Which is a pretty cheap limitation, but what else are you going to do if you want to make a series about punchmans punching each other to see who punches hardest?

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

One of the best DBZ games hands-down, definitely the best DBZ JRPG. I never got too far but what I have played is a ton of fun. I love it's more active combat system, it makes me think of the Mario RPG games.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Sylphosaurus posted:

So whatever happened to Launch in the Manga? I recall reading the entire Dragonball series from the original to the end of Z but Launch just disappears after a while. Did Toriyama just forget about her existence between the endless fighting sequences?

That's exactly what happened, yeah. Toriyama forgot. He has a terrible memory.

Keeshhound posted:

One of the things I really do appreciate about this series is that when they say "grant any wish you have," they loving mean it. Immortality? Sure! Bring someone (or an entire planets worth of people) back from the dead? You got it! Make a new loving planet for your friends to live on? Let me know when you've got an actually challenging request.

Even if Shenron just wound up becoming a reset button later in the series, the shear scale of the power he was allowed to wield within the narrative is actually somewhat unique.

It should be noted that Shenlong does have limits. He, or any of his kin for that matter, can't grant wishes that exceed their creator's powers. This is, of course, very vaguely defined and rarely amounts to anything. Bringing the entire people of a planet to another, and reviving basically everyone in two planets? Perfectly doable (if taxing, as even by the end of the series that meant cutting the amount of wishes Shenlong could grant). Killing someone? No, that's way too hard.

Basically all the dragons can grant wishes as long as they don't interfere with the story, which is fine. It's good writing to at least make sure that there isn't a sure-win button.

Anyways, about this game. I played it, I liked it, but there's a point later on I couldn't clear at all. There's just this big difficulty spike, and I guess the game wanted me to grind hard but I couldn't be arsed. It's still a good game, though, and I'll gladly follow to see what I didn't get to play.

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.

Danaru posted:

My favourite part about this is that Shenron said he couldn't just kill Vegeta and Nappa, which either means he was lying and trying to get them to stop crying to him every time something bad happens, or bringing someone back from the dead is way easier than just killing someone.

The benchmark, I think, is that an eternal dragon can't grant wishes that require more power than the kami who created the dragon - in this case, Kami. Kami is probably limited in how he can use his power, since he's the guardian of Earth. I would assume that dead people are usually happy to return to life, whereas most living people don't really want to die. So Shenron can restore people to life pretty easily, but would only be able to kill anyone whom Kami could kill if he were allowed to do that. That doesn't cover most of the people whom the main cast of the story want dead at any time.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Keeshhound posted:

I think the excuse was that while he held phenomenal cosmic power, he couldn't kill anyone stronger than his creator. Which is a pretty cheap limitation, but what else are you going to do if you want to make a series about punchmans punching each other to see who punches hardest?

The nerdiest conversation I've ever had was about if Aladdin wished for the Genie to gather the 7 dragonballs, whether Kami and therefore Shenron could kill Jafar.

Nidoking posted:

I would assume that dead people are usually happy to return to life, whereas most living people don't really want to die. So Shenron can restore people to life pretty easily, but would only be able to kill anyone whom Kami could kill if he were allowed to do that.

Huh, I never really thought of it that way. Death really is pretty cheap.

Danaru fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Aug 13, 2015

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

Sylphosaurus posted:

So whatever happened to Launch in the Manga? I recall reading the entire Dragonball series from the original to the end of Z but Launch just disappears after a while. Did Toriyama just forget about her existence between the endless fighting sequences?

There's a running joke with DBZ fans that Akira Toryiama regularly forgets characters and plot points while writing by the seat of his pants. On the other hand, while its a joke it is also literally true. Dip into various interviews and he'll mention that he forgot about Launch, or SSJ2, or people's hair colours. I believe there's one where Eiichiro Oda (the guy doing One Piece, and a huge fan) compliments him on a particularly awesome robot, and Toryiama just goes "What now? A robot? Sure, I probably did that."

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Danaru posted:

Oh hell yeah this looks awesome. I never really thought of it, but "<character> used to be a huge dick, but he's okay now." sums up every single one of the Z fighters aside from Goku and Gohan :v:

Also if you're still looking for someone to help with a side feature, I love both DBZ and also terrible RPGs

INCLUDING Goku. He was a little rear end in a top hat before he fell on his head.

Also, most, if not all, of the junior generation Z fighters started off as good guys, not just Gohan.

ParanoidLogician
Jul 24, 2012

Where did the punster go when he was defeated? The "punitentiary"!
Another RPG that has a relation to Akira Toriyama? Leave, are you trying to segue into LPing some Dragon Quest games, because you could have just jumped to that. I kid, I kid, but I'd love to see you tackle one of the games at one point.

Granted you probably won't and it would be a prime idea for someone like me to try and tackle except I'm pretty sure like 80-90% of the series has been LPed and slapped on the archive.

Leavemywife posted:

And so ends the info dump there. Holy crap. I know a fair bit about DBZ, but some of the events of DB elude me (as I haven't seen the entire show), so the Dragonball Wiki helped with a lot of that info.

I would seriously recommend watching or reading old school Dragonball (I've been planning on rewatching it myself for some time now), because I think it honestly holds up the best in comparison to DBZ and is way more entertaining for plenty of reasons. Also, it's cast remains fairly useful throughout it's whole story.

Chickenfrogman
Sep 16, 2011

by exmarx
Easily the best DBZ RPG, though I have some nostalgia for Buu's Fury.

Frankomatic
Aug 22, 2007

I've got to get a picture of this!
Ah, this game is really awesome. Probably the best pure RPG style RPG I can think of for the franchise. I had some minor complaints about the battle system (any my problems might have been self caused), but it was still a good ride.

As an aficionado of Dragonball, Bad RPGs, and Bad Dragonball RPGs, I can see if I can spare a little time for a bit of talk about bad Dragonball RPGs if assistance is still required...


e: Minor context for Goku nearly getting shot in the dick: Launch was the girl he eventually brought back to Roshi to get his training. Due to lack of beds, Blue Haired Launch, not being an idiot, chose to bunk with Goku (...or possibly Krillin choked and made the suggestion at the last second, losing my street cred here). She woke up Blonde Launch and sort of flipped her poo poo at him being in the bed with her and goes for the gun. It ends about as well as most people trying to shoot Goku does, as you might guess.

Frankomatic fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Aug 13, 2015

Kemix
Dec 1, 2013

Because change

Danaru posted:

My favourite part about this is that Shenron said he couldn't just kill Vegeta and Nappa, which either means he was lying and trying to get them to stop crying to him every time something bad happens, or bringing someone back from the dead is way easier than just killing someone.

I don't know which one I prefer, honestly.

I also believe that later in the DBZ series he was getting sick of seeing Goku and friends' faces every year...or that could just be DBZ Abridged messing with my memory, which wouldn't surprise me. I watch that more than the actual show :v:

SMaster777
Dec 17, 2013

I wish this was my Smash main.
Bwhahahaha, in True Leavemywife fashion, one game ends and the next immediately starts up. I've never actually played AotS, so... guess this will be interesting to see.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Kemix posted:

I also believe that later in the DBZ series he was getting sick of seeing Goku and friends' faces every year...or that could just be DBZ Abridged messing with my memory, which wouldn't surprise me. I watch that more than the actual show :v:

GT ends with the spirits inside the balls turning evil because they over/misused them for the last 30-odd years. But that's GT.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.
I haven't played this, but it looks pretty neat. I'm a pretty big sucker for Dragonball stuff, so gonna be following along with interest!

Anoia
Dec 31, 2003

"Sooner or later, every curse is a prayer."
I honestly was only aware of the DBZ fighting games and the MMO before this. I'm interested to see how this goes.

Brewsuke
Jan 8, 2014

Anoia posted:

I honestly was only aware of the DBZ fighting games and the MMO before this. I'm interested to see how this goes.

The Legacy of Goku series are the only DBZ RPGs I was ever aware of, so I'm excited to see how this goes, too.

EDIT: But apparently there are like, thirty DBZ RPGs, not including Dragon Ball Online. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Category:RPG_games

Brewsuke fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 13, 2015

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Kemix posted:

I also believe that later in the DBZ series he was getting sick of seeing Goku and friends' faces every year...or that could just be DBZ Abridged messing with my memory, which wouldn't surprise me. I watch that more than the actual show :v:

I'm pretty sure he got sick of their poo poo in the show as well. I remember him getting sassy in Dragonball XenoVerse too, although that may have had something to do with me gathering the seven balls and wishing for a haircut. :v:

Brewsuke
Jan 8, 2014

Danaru posted:

I'm pretty sure he got sick of their poo poo in the show as well. I remember him getting sassy in Dragonball XenoVerse too, although that may have had something to do with me gathering the seven balls and wishing for a haircut. :v:

Everything I hear about Xenoverse makes me want it more. Can you wear shirts with random english words on them and mom jeans? Because if you can, I'm probably going to immediately buy it.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


Sadly, they only let you recolor a couple of outfits because, um...

I dunno. It's kind of depressing.

Plus every outfit has stats attached. so if you PVP you risk being... SUB-OPTIMAL.

Brewsuke
Jan 8, 2014

Tallgeese posted:

Sadly, they only let you recolor a couple of outfits because, um...

I dunno. It's kind of depressing.

Plus every outfit has stats attached. so if you PVP you risk being... SUB-OPTIMAL.

So no pink shirts with 'BADMAN' on them?

This is the worst news ever.

I just wanted to get my 90s anime fashion on. Is that too much to ask?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
It should be noted that Shenron totally could have killed Nappa and Vegeta. Just wish that their space ships disappeared. They would suffocated in Space.

Quantum Toast
Feb 13, 2012

Leavemywife posted:



Krillin gets up and we get the ellipses above his head. Those come up a lot. Don't expect to see all of them, since I'll do what I can to cut out most of them.



As they are occasionally redundant.
I guess putting some on his forehead saves time?

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


Brewsuke posted:

So no pink shirts with 'BADMAN' on them?

This is the worst news ever.

I just wanted to get my 90s anime fashion on. Is that too much to ask?

If you get the PC version there are clothing mods, but they won't show online.

They don't have Mercenary Tao's KILL YOU either.

Digital Jello
Nov 2, 2012

Now I have a machine gun. Ho! Ho! Ho!

Leavemywife posted:



I'm not 100% on the context there, but in case you thought I was bullshitting, here's a shot of it.

Actually, that's not Launch getting pissed because Goku won't wake up; if I recall, Roshe or someone convinced little Goku to try and sleep with her or something, and when she sneezed and became the blonde badass, she misconstrued Goku's intentions for perversion and pulls a gun on him. I also think it's the one time in the series where Launch is dangerous enough that Goku has to knock her out with a punch.

My memory might be a bit skewed on this though, it's been a long time.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Quantum Toast posted:

I guess putting some on his forehead saves time?

Reply if you thought Krillin's head was a dragon ball, when you watched DBZ as a kid.

I did. :downs:

azren
Feb 14, 2011


Leavemywife posted:

covering from just after the death of King Piccolo to the fight with Vegeta.

That makes me a little sad; Freeza has always been my favorite DBZ villain.

Resurrection F was awesome.

silversatyr
Jul 29, 2014

Go on an adventure ordained by fate?
-->Okay! I'll grab my stuff!

-->Eh.
Wow, you just dove right on in to a new LP, didn't you, Leave? Great news for us readers!

This game... I really enjoyed but for some reason I stopped playing at some point and didn't pick it back up again. Wait... was it this game? Was there another RPG on DS where you played through Dragonball and in to DBZ? Or am I thinking of something else? Geez. >.<; My mind, the siv.

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

Danaru posted:

Oh hell yeah this looks awesome. I never really thought of it, but "<character> used to be a huge dick, but he's okay now." sums up every single one of the Z fighters aside from Goku and Gohan :v:[/spoiler]

Technically just Gohan.

Goku was a dick when he was a baby (before the head wound).

Edit: Oops, somebody beat me to it :downs:

mauman fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Aug 14, 2015

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.

Digital Jello posted:

Actually, that's not Launch getting pissed because Goku won't wake up; if I recall, Roshe or someone convinced little Goku to try and sleep with her or something, and when she sneezed and became the blonde badass, she misconstrued Goku's intentions for perversion and pulls a gun on him. I also think it's the one time in the series where Launch is dangerous enough that Goku has to knock her out with a punch.

The difference could also be in the localization, if you watched the series on Cartoon Network. They made a number of changes in the name of making the series a bit more kid-friendly, some of which are better known than others and many of which are just completely silly. I think a good deal of the material that focused on the Turtle Hermit's perversion disappeared along the way.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
This is the best Dragonball RPG with its only downsides being you really can't change plot outcomes (something you could do in other RPGs) and they never made a sequel covering 'Defenders of Namek' which is apparently what the Namek Saga is called. But this is an awesome game from Monolith Soft (so of course it's an awesome game) and I'm happy to see it LPed.

Oh, it does have a bit of a grind problem, but that's subvertable if you go to a particular place in the mountains and just kill end-game level enemies with a lot of risk-reward.

Also it's not that Roshi convinced Goku to sleep with her, it's that Goku was sleeping with blue Launch, who sneezed in the middle of the night, so when she and Goku woke up A. she had no idea where she was and B. Goku was oblivious to what the problem was (because he's Goku)

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
Potentially controversial, but factually true statement: Dragonball is better than DBZ.

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Some Numbers posted:

Potentially controversial, but factually true statement: Dragonball is better than DBZ.

No that's about right. I liked Krillin, Vegeta etc. more in Dragon Ball Z because they got a lot more development. But DB is much better on the whole.

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