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UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



The Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame is voted on by a group of active and retired wrestlers, reporters, and historians. Candidates are inducted if they earn 60% of the vote in their category. Candidates are dropped from the ballot if they fail to earn 10% at any time or 50% if they've been on the ballot 15 years.

The criteria for the Hall of Fame is a combination of drawing power, being a great in-ring performer or excelling in ones field in pro wrestling, as well as having historical significance in a positive manner. To be eligible a wrestler must be 35 years old and debuted 10 years ago or been a wrestler for 15 years.

Longevity should be a prime consideration rather than a hot two or three year run, unless someone is so significant as a trend-setter or a historical figure in the business, or valuable to the industry, that they need to be included. However, just longevity without being either a long-term main eventer, a top draw and/or a top caliber in-ring performer should be seen as relatively meaningless.


The Ballot (2014 vote %)

United States/Canada
Daniel Bryan (*)
Junkyard Dog (16)
Edge (36)
Curt Hennig (23)
Ivan Koloff (48)
Brock Lesnar (56)
Randy Orton (*)
CM Punk (19)
Big Show (*)
Sgt. Slaughter (22)
Sting (33)
AJ Styles (**)
Ultimate Warrior (20)

Japan
Jun Akiyama (29)
CIMA (*)
George Gordienko (25)
Volk Han (51)#
Mashiko Kimura (23)
Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan (17)
Yuji Nagata (37)
Shinsuke Nakamura (*)
Mike & Ben Sharpe (46)
Minoru Suzuki (22)
Kiyoshi Tamura (23)
Akira Taue (16)

Mexico
Perro Aguayo Jr. (**)
Brazo de Oro & Brazo de Plata & El Brazo (16)
Cien Caras (54)#
Hector Garza (15)
Ultimo Guerrero (24)
Karloff Lagarde (48)
Blue Panther (28)
L.A. Park (24)
Huracan Ramirez (27)
El Signo & El Texano & Negro Navarro (36)
Vampiro (11)
Villano III (33)#
Dr. Wagner Jr. (24)

Europe
Jim Breaks (14)
Big Daddy (43)
Horst Hoffman (23)
Billy Joyce (27)
Kendo Nagasaki (15)
Jackie Pallo (27)
Rollerball Mark Rocco (32)
Johnny Saint (29)
Ricky Starr (**)
Otto Wanz (25)

Australia/Pacific Islands/Caribbean/Africa
Spyros Arion (15)
Johnny Barend (10)
Brute Bernard & Skully Murphy (12)
Carlos Colon (56)
Dominic DeNucci (21)
Killer Karl Kox (32)
Mark Lewin (38)
Mario Milano (11)

Historical
The Assassins (Joe Hamilton & Tom Renesto) (48)
Red Bastien (34)
June Byers (14)
Cowboy Bob Ellis (**)
Bob Geigel (**)
Pepper Gomez (10)
Dick Hutton (13)
Rocky Johnson (12)
Kinji Shibuya (14)
John Tolos (13)
Enrique Torres (25)
Von Brauners & Saul Weingeroff (10)
Johnny "Mr. Wrestling II" Walker (21)
Tim "Mr. Wrestling" Woods (24)
Ron Wright (**)

Non-Wrestlers
Bill Apter (42)
Dave Brown (13)
Jim Crockett Jr. (23)
Jim Crockett Sr. (44)
Gary Hart (33)
Jimmy Hart (36)
Howard Finkel (29)
Jerry Jarrett (44)
Larry Matysik (16)
Gorilla Monsoon (33)
Gene Okerlund (36)
Don Owen (30)
George Scott (19)
Stanley Weston (31)

* New to ballot
** Re-added after dropping off
#Will drop off if with less than 50%

List of WONHOF members
Voting trends from 2008-2014

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UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



quote:

I spoke to Zane Bresloff 3-5 times daily, and that was his department. He's the guy selling the tickets and he never thought Sting was a guy who sold tickets. It was Hulk and it was Goldberg the next year.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Star ratings are useless for comparing between eras and arguably promotions but not the worst thing for something like Edge vs. Orton.


If you want an estimate of how many voters get their history from WWE here's the vote for Moolah from 2008 to 2014.


There is absolutely no case for Moolah. She had meaningless longevity, drew no major gates, and had a hugely negative influence on style of women's wrestling. Reporters and historians are vocally opposed. She's a terrible candidate even before you consider the monstrous treatment of her roster.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Edge does not have one particularly strong group of supporters.

Brock's support is ridiculously slanted.
Historians/Active/Retired/Reporters
#2/21/24/1

e: transposed historians and reporters. Point stands

UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Sep 14, 2015

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Edge & Christian posted:

I know it's not *just* supposed to be drawing power, but the idea that Edge is questionable as a draw next to other inductees (Angle, Benoit, Guerrero, Mysterio, Jericho) seems weird to me.
It's not that Edge is less of a draw. It's that he's less of a wrestler and needs to boost his case by proving he's a draw. I would argue Edge was a much better promo than most of them but that's harder to quantify.

The cruiserweights also have the world traveler cred that Edge missed out on. This has a secondary effect of increasing the number of guys you worked who might vouch for you, which is how Angle got in after 5 years in the business. Dave says wrestlers love Angle. The very very biggest stars and guys who have wrestled everybody put Angle in their top 5.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



quote:

Issue won't be out for a few weeks, but 7 new Hall of Famers in 2015. Most newcomers since 2004.

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UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



At least Bryan is close and Orton (as in all things) flopped.

Dave should wait a year after death before re-adding guys. His obits are amazing research but votes months later are not an honest reassessment.

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