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Brexit the Frog

hey byob

i've been making my way thru Star Trek TNG this past month (on s3 now), and i fear that i'm starting to like it more than Star Wars..?

has anyone had a similar progression through lovely and sad sci-fi?

please advise

# ? Sep 14, 2015 14:02

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 14:26

tao of lmao

Trek wins just on sheer volume alone imo TNG, DS9, and ENT are all worth watching. Wars has 3 good movies and 3 bad movies. The only bad trek series is voyager.

# ? Sep 14, 2015 14:55

wearing a lampshade

and fantreks. don't forget fantreks.

# ? Sep 14, 2015 14:56

fuck. marry. t-rex

What about star GATE

# ? Sep 14, 2015 14:58

Brexit the Frog

gently caress. marry. t-rex posted:

What about star GATE

i liked the movie well enough. haven't checked out the show

# ? Sep 14, 2015 15:24

Chill la Chill: Don't lose your gay

Sorry OP I did the opposite. Was exposed to star trek and shifted to star wars afterwards

Apparently I'm #1 Kotori fan

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# ? Sep 14, 2015 17:07

ron color

I love votager

# ? Sep 14, 2015 17:12

ron color

anything can happen there's no consistency. amazing

# ? Sep 14, 2015 17:14

DemonToadGoat

I like one, then the other

# ? Sep 14, 2015 17:18

mags: I am a congenital optimist.

voyager had the episode where paris went so fast he turned into a lizard and well that's really fast

paul_soccer12 posted:

everyone in the idf must die

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# ? Sep 14, 2015 17:27

tao of lmao

ron color posted:

anything can happen there's no consistency. amazing

there's coffee in that nebula

# ? Sep 14, 2015 17:59

joke_explainer

DS9 was Star Trek with long serialized plot arcs (the last 8 episodes are all pt 1 pt 2 all the way to 8... most seasons had an issue that spanned the entire season) and voyager was star trek with less writing constraint or something. All kinds of crazy poo poo happens. Tuvok and Tom Paris go back in time to 1996 LA and eat breakfast burritos with Sarah Silverman, which are delivered to the table they are sitting at by Tuvok who is asked what's up Tuvok my man?? by Silverman says Breakfast is up and dumps the to go bag on the table. It's loving fantastic

# ? Sep 14, 2015 18:12

joke_explainer

I only wish they could have made that episode today, and instead have visited the idealized version of the 90s people are constantly talking about online instead of just going outside because their studio was being fumigated or whatever

# ? Sep 14, 2015 18:13

Qwerinty: by zen death robot

watch voyager and all the star wars movies at once and denounce sci-fi forever

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# ? Sep 14, 2015 18:14

joke_explainer

Janeway: 'What are you doing Tom Paris'

Tom: 'They're pogs, Captain. Also, slap bracelets. These are banned in schools not to long from now. And I finally have a chance to complete my collection of garbage pail kids and beanie babies"

# ? Sep 14, 2015 18:22

Brexit the Frog

the captain has banned all pogs that say "POISON" on them, but have a look at this
(shows a milkcap with holographic printing and background made up of the word POISON in a small typeface)

# ? Sep 14, 2015 18:24

platonicbackrub

ron color posted:

anything can happen there's no consistency. amazing

much like your posting perhaps

# ? Sep 14, 2015 21:23

Captain No-mates

why dont you try growing up OP

# ? Sep 14, 2015 21:25

Uziduke: A storm over Europe unleashed
Dawn of war a trail of destruction
The power of Rome won't prevail
See the Catholics shiver and shake

tao of lmao posted:

Trek wins just on sheer volume alone imo TNG, DS9, and ENT are all worth watching. Wars has 3 good movies and 3 bad movies. The only bad trek series is voyager.

Voyager beats out DS9 any day and its better than 100% of all star wars.

Stargate Universe was great, a mix of Voyager and the new BSG, to bad it got canned.

# ? Sep 14, 2015 22:01

im cute

Rusty Staub posted:

i liked the movie well enough. haven't checked out the show

There's like, three or four Stargate shows and, boy, are they Something Awful!

# ? Sep 14, 2015 22:20

emoji

paco650 posted:

There's like, three or four Stargate shows and, boy, are they Something Awful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAgODVbPq78

# ? Sep 14, 2015 22:23

joke_explainer

In Season 1, Episode 6 of Voyager, 'The Cloud', Tom Paris introduces Harry Kim to his holodeck recreation of a pool hall in Marseilles, France, called the Chez Sandrine. During the intro to this he mentions he found the place on his second year at Starfleet Academy, when somebody pickpocketed his wallet. Kim remarks, 'Somebody picked your pocket on Earth?' incredulously, illustrating how unusual that sounds (and showcasing how different the Earth of the series is from the Earth of today). Paris remarks that they, generally, gave it back and it was just something they did for tourists looking for an authentic experience.

This bit of dialog confused me though. I mean, for one thing, have you ever seen anyone's wallet on Star Trek? Ever?

Even on Earth, you do get some extensive scenes of a very high-class New Orleans restaurant run by Benjamin Sisko's dad. But there's no money. People just eat and leave. Presumably, Sisko's dad and his servers are all just doing it for fun or to maintain some kind of live cultural knowledge/study of cooking, which would probably be pretty important given how frequently people are replicating things. Still though, no wallet. Computers seem to have no problem differentiating people's identification so I'm not sure what you'd even carry in a wallet.

Second, starfleet uniforms generally don't have pockets. The cadet uniform of the 2360s (i.e. the one we see Wesley in (and Paris's time in starfleet academy was during this decade)) has one large pocket on the knee. It is never seemingly used to store anything. This must be the pocket that is being discussed, but it's hard to imagine what he was keeping in there to steal, or how a pickpocket might manage to grab something from a knee pocket without you noticing.

Perhaps he was in civilian garb, but most of the people seen on Earth wear the same weird onesies or strange, future fashions that make no sense and also generally don't have pockets. You don't see anybody in the future in jeans or slacks until the Star Trek Abrams movie. Maybe Tom Paris is such a weird history buff that he wandered around with a big leather wallet full of fake money and IDs and poo poo just so he could pretend he lived in the past even harder. (He wanted to crew a sailing ship before his dad made him join the Academy.)

But anyway, I think the whole thing is pretty suspect. I don't know if Paris was intentionally misleading his colleagues about the pickpocket incident, or if everybody in starfleet actually does carry a wallet in a secret hidden pocket and we just never get see the wallets, and that one place on Earth still has pickpockets or something.

# ? Sep 14, 2015 22:37

im cute

joke_explainer posted:

In Season 1, Episode 6 of Voyager, 'The Cloud', Tom Paris introduces Harry Kim to his holodeck recreation of a pool hall in Marseilles, France, called the Chez Sandrine. During the intro to this he mentions he found the place on his second year at Starfleet Academy, when somebody pickpocketed his wallet. Kim remarks, 'Somebody picked your pocket on Earth?' incredulously, illustrating how unusual that sounds (and showcasing how different the Earth of the series is from the Earth of today). Paris remarks that they, generally, gave it back and it was just something they did for tourists looking for an authentic experience.

This bit of dialog confused me though. I mean, for one thing, have you ever seen anyone's wallet on Star Trek? Ever?

Even on Earth, you do get some extensive scenes of a very high-class New Orleans restaurant run by Benjamin Sisko's dad. But there's no money. People just eat and leave. Presumably, Sisko's dad and his servers are all just doing it for fun or to maintain some kind of live cultural knowledge/study of cooking, which would probably be pretty important given how frequently people are replicating things. Still though, no wallet. Computers seem to have no problem differentiating people's identification so I'm not sure what you'd even carry in a wallet.

Second, starfleet uniforms generally don't have pockets. The cadet uniform of the 2360s (i.e. the one we see Wesley in (and Paris's time in starfleet academy was during this decade)) has one large pocket on the knee. It is never seemingly used to store anything. This must be the pocket that is being discussed, but it's hard to imagine what he was keeping in there to steal, or how a pickpocket might manage to grab something from a knee pocket without you noticing.

Perhaps he was in civilian garb, but most of the people seen on Earth wear the same weird onesies or strange, future fashions that make no sense and also generally don't have pockets. You don't see anybody in the future in jeans or slacks until the Star Trek Abrams movie. Maybe Tom Paris is such a weird history buff that he wandered around with a big leather wallet full of fake money and IDs and poo poo just so he could pretend he lived in the past even harder. (He wanted to crew a sailing ship before his dad made him join the Academy.)

But anyway, I think the whole thing is pretty suspect. I don't know if Paris was intentionally misleading his colleagues about the pickpocket incident, or if everybody in starfleet actually does carry a wallet in a secret hidden pocket and we just never get see the wallets, and that one place on Earth still has pickpockets or something.

lol

emoji posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAgODVbPq78

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# ? Sep 14, 2015 22:46

mags: I am a congenital optimist.

joke_explainer posted:

In Season 1, Episode 6 of Voyager, 'The Cloud', Tom Paris introduces Harry Kim to his holodeck recreation of a pool hall in Marseilles, France, called the Chez Sandrine. During the intro to this he mentions he found the place on his second year at Starfleet Academy, when somebody pickpocketed his wallet. Kim remarks, 'Somebody picked your pocket on Earth?' incredulously, illustrating how unusual that sounds (and showcasing how different the Earth of the series is from the Earth of today). Paris remarks that they, generally, gave it back and it was just something they did for tourists looking for an authentic experience.

This bit of dialog confused me though. I mean, for one thing, have you ever seen anyone's wallet on Star Trek? Ever?

Even on Earth, you do get some extensive scenes of a very high-class New Orleans restaurant run by Benjamin Sisko's dad. But there's no money. People just eat and leave. Presumably, Sisko's dad and his servers are all just doing it for fun or to maintain some kind of live cultural knowledge/study of cooking, which would probably be pretty important given how frequently people are replicating things. Still though, no wallet. Computers seem to have no problem differentiating people's identification so I'm not sure what you'd even carry in a wallet.

Second, starfleet uniforms generally don't have pockets. The cadet uniform of the 2360s (i.e. the one we see Wesley in (and Paris's time in starfleet academy was during this decade)) has one large pocket on the knee. It is never seemingly used to store anything. This must be the pocket that is being discussed, but it's hard to imagine what he was keeping in there to steal, or how a pickpocket might manage to grab something from a knee pocket without you noticing.

Perhaps he was in civilian garb, but most of the people seen on Earth wear the same weird onesies or strange, future fashions that make no sense and also generally don't have pockets. You don't see anybody in the future in jeans or slacks until the Star Trek Abrams movie. Maybe Tom Paris is such a weird history buff that he wandered around with a big leather wallet full of fake money and IDs and poo poo just so he could pretend he lived in the past even harder. (He wanted to crew a sailing ship before his dad made him join the Academy.)

But anyway, I think the whole thing is pretty suspect. I don't know if Paris was intentionally misleading his colleagues about the pickpocket incident, or if everybody in starfleet actually does carry a wallet in a secret hidden pocket and we just never get see the wallets, and that one place on Earth still has pickpockets or something.

i think the pretending to be in the past part is more likely as humans of the future are weirdly fixated on it and seem to only enjoy old drama and classical music instead of any new compositions or, oddly, stuff from other cultures or time periods. rock music is all but abandoned, with only jazz surviving to the 24th century. sisko is obsessed with baseball, a sport that apparently isn't played anymore. picard only reads 18th century or earlier european literature and insists on owning actual books in a time when printed words are archaic and purely a novelty

paul_soccer12 posted:

everyone in the idf must die

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# ? Sep 14, 2015 22:47

GODSPEED JOHN GLENN: I put my thumb up my bum and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth.

Honestly, Babylon 5 or GTFO

# ? Sep 14, 2015 23:05

dumb crambo: Can't post for 3 years!

Captain No-mates posted:

why dont you try growing up OP

# ? Sep 14, 2015 23:12

Drink-Mix Man: You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

I bet Tom Paris would actually like and watch "Voyager"

# ? Sep 14, 2015 23:19

joke_explainer

CAT BRUSH posted:

i think the pretending to be in the past part is more likely as humans of the future are weirdly fixated on it and seem to only enjoy old drama and classical music instead of any new compositions or, oddly, stuff from other cultures or time periods. rock music is all but abandoned, with only jazz surviving to the 24th century. sisko is obsessed with baseball, a sport that apparently isn't played anymore. picard only reads 18th century or earlier european literature and insists on owning actual books in a time when printed words are archaic and purely a novelty

"Computer, outfit us with stylish but inoffensive period clothes for 1996 Earth culture"

"Affirmative"

"Great now we'll really fit in"

# ? Sep 14, 2015 23:19

joke_explainer

Drink-Mix Man posted:

I bet Tom Paris would actually like and watch "Voyager"

absolutely

# ? Sep 14, 2015 23:21

Savage For The Winjun

star trek is way cooler than star wars but you have to be more ashamed of it so there is a tradeoff

# ? Sep 15, 2015 01:23

drilldo squirt: a beautiful, soft meat sack

Uziduke posted:

Voyager beats out DS9 any day and its better than 100% of all star wars.

Stargate Universe was great, a mix of Voyager and the new BSG, to bad it got canned.

You're wrong and most likely retarded.

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# ? Sep 15, 2015 09:51

drilldo squirt: a beautiful, soft meat sack

Im absolutely furious about this guy liking voyager I mean, come on.

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# ? Sep 15, 2015 09:55

ron color

voyager is the one people will watch and remember

# ? Sep 15, 2015 14:22

Uziduke: A storm over Europe unleashed
Dawn of war a trail of destruction
The power of Rome won't prevail
See the Catholics shiver and shake

drilldo squirt posted:

Im absolutely furious about this guy liking voyager I mean, come on.

But they have the hot chicks on Voyager.

# ? Sep 15, 2015 17:00

tao of lmao

voyager is bad in any quadrant

# ? Sep 15, 2015 17:06

GEExCEE

ds9 is the best

# ? Sep 15, 2015 17:25

tao of lmao

GEExCEE posted:

ds9 is the best

truth

# ? Sep 15, 2015 17:27

ron color

Star Trek will not hold up to the test of time they are all bad--except for the one that has the most bad episodes

# ? Sep 15, 2015 17:39

bacalou

nothing holds up to the test of time, ron color. the grading scale is curved and god + all the angels kind of hosed us over

# ? Sep 15, 2015 18:48

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 14:26

ron color

obviously society still exists for 800 more years so that a time traveling space ship can crash into the 1970s and then ed begley jr and the voyager crew invent the microchip

# ? Sep 15, 2015 19:34

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