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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 243 days!
Who isn't looking forward to a President who the Republicans hate even more than Obama?

e: also 8 more years of very serious people talking about Bill's penis on the nightly news.

Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 05:50 on Sep 23, 2015

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SOME PIG
Aug 12, 2004

Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures
*crickets*

Well op... what makes YOU excited for her presidency? I'm trying, here.

maker
Jun 1, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
As a millennial i am so happy she supports the gays now! Her plan to sorta kinda control college costs is REVOLITIONARY!! I'm okay with still paying a few grand a year, hilary has got my back. She only wants me to pay 250 dollars for my mediation a month! Wow I can't wait to devote 2/3rds of my student stipend for drugs that keep me senile! I'd give to her campaign if i had any disposable income not dedicated to loan interest payments!!
Yaaaaas Hilary ! Your are girl!

Fish Cant Hold Gun
Jul 2, 2015

by Ralp

JeffersonClay posted:

I can find no credible reason to believe any of this.


DutchDupe posted:

I remember reading about it in Game Change and I thought that was a fairly well researched book.

Yeah, Game Change was my source. Here's an excerpt from a blog post by a HuffPo journalist about why she chose not to report on it at the time:

Bill Clinton's Mistress: The Story That Never Was posted:


In February, 2008, while I was covering the Texas Democratic primary for HuffPost's OffTheBus, I voluntarily passed on an opportunity to write about former president Bill Clinton's longtime mistress. With considerable amusement, therefore, I anticipate reading Game Change, Mark Halperin's and John Heilemann's salacious new book about the 2008 presidential race, which will be released tomorrow, because they apparently rush in where I feared to tread. "After some discreet fact-finding, the [Hillary campaign staff] concluded that [the rumors] were true: that Bill was indeed having an affair," H & H write. "For months, thereafter, the war room within a war room braced for the explosion, which her aides knew could come at any moment." That moment could have occurred during the Texas primary.

...

At the time I covered the rally in Victoria, I had decided not to follow up on another story about Bill Clinton that had come my way--one involving his longtime mistress. I mention the nature of the Clinton story with some specificity now only because months later, after the Democratic primaries, the National Enquirer wrote about the relationship. In Texas, staring this story in the face, immediately I turned aside. If I know all about this woman, then surely every national reporter does and is as wary of the story as I am. Nevertheless, I was careful never to mention anything to anybody at [HuffPo]. I rationalized the refusal to follow through by telling myself that Clinton's private life was peripheral to the race.

I really recommend a read through of Game Change you're interested into getting insight into the mind of Hillary Clinton and Clintonworld. She's fiercely loyal to Bill, but he really hosed her over numerous times in '08. He was a huge liability for her, and there's a real vulnerable moment towards the end where she admits to Mark Penn that she simply can't control Bill. He's like this force of nature that she has to try and corral like a bucking bronco. The Game Change movie focused on just the Palin stuff for obvious reasons, but to me the heart of the story belonged to the Clintons. The t-shirt I posted shows that she learned all the wrong lessons too, which is sad.

For those of you who are gossips with no shame, this is the woman Bill was seeing:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belinda_Stronach

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:

Yeah, Game Change was my source. Here's an excerpt from a blog post by a HuffPo journalist about why she chose not to report on it at the time:


I really recommend a read through of Game Change you're interested into getting insight into the mind of Hillary Clinton and Clintonworld. She's fiercely loyal to Bill, but he really hosed her over numerous times in '08. He was a huge liability for her, and there's a real vulnerable moment towards the end where she admits to Mark Penn that she simply can't control Bill. He's like this force of nature that she has to try and corral like a bucking bronco. The Game Change movie focused on just the Palin stuff for obvious reasons, but to me the heart of the story belonged to the Clintons. The t-shirt I posted shows that she learned all the wrong lessons too, which is sad.

For those of you who are gossips with no shame, this is the woman Bill was seeing:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belinda_Stronach

Game change has some third hand account which doesn't name the woman. That Huffpo journalist sits around tweeting about #obamabull all day, and that post is promoting her e-book. Is there any non-tabloid/free republic support for this?

Fish Cant Hold Gun
Jul 2, 2015

by Ralp
Not that I've found in my extensive research (i.e. the first page of google results for "Bill Cliton affair 2008").

So, it just comes down to whether you believe Halperin and Heilemann. I personally choose to; their methodology is interesting and seems sound, and no one has sued them for libel. Steve Schmidt called watching the film version (where much of the dialogue is taken verbatim from the book) an "out of body experience." It seems to sync with the reality we saw from our side of the fence.

But most importantly I want to believe their stories. I want to believe that Rick Perry was wacked out on pain killers and insomnia during the Oops debate. I want to believe that some of John Edward's staffers were conspiring to leak news of his affair in the event that it looked like he might win the nomination out of loyalty to the party, since it would of destroyed him in the general. I want to believe that Mitt Romney constantly made fun of Christie's weight and gave him the code name "pufferfish" during his VP vetting. I want to believe that Stuart Stevens, one of Romney's top strategists, was so horrified during the Clint Eastwood empty chair Dadaist masterpiece that he ran out of the room and threw up in a trash can.

I cannot wait for the book they write about this election. It'll probably be the greatest story ever told.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

crazy eights posted:

Hello friends. Please read the rules....:doh:

what? I was actually serious :(

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
What did people think Bill Clinton stopped having sex with people? That's his thing.

I don't hold it against Hillary though.

Harrower
Nov 30, 2002
Gotta get Slick WIlly back into the white house at any cost.

Kempo Yellow Belt
Jan 5, 2012
Fun Shoe

Abner Cadaver II posted:

she did just say she opposes the keystone pipeline so that's actually good

and we didn't even have to wait for her to become president to get an answer.
:neckbeard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft_BQNyxrRw

CSPAN Caller
Oct 16, 2012
This lady knows how to joke around! Also, snapchat!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK1A0od12CY

Boosted_C5
Feb 16, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 years!
Grimey Drawer
Just dropping in to share my condolences friends.

I know what it's like to have to support a cold, robotic, uninspiring, candidate with zero charisma who struggles greatly just to make cringe-worthy attempts to appear human and relatable.

:mitt:

Good luck and Godspeed Hillary supporters.

Swedgin
Aug 22, 2006

by exmarx
Her voting record in the Senate was to the left of Obama and comparable with Warren.

Fish Cant Hold Gun
Jul 2, 2015

by Ralp

CSPAN Caller posted:

This lady knows how to joke around! Also, snapchat!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK1A0od12CY

She clearly hates doing poo poo like this, but all her focus groups and internal polling tell her that people find her "cold and in in unrelatable", so she has to contort herself into doing these cheeseball groaners rather than just be herself. In reality there's nothing wrong with being a stern and very serious person, especially if you're someone that is going to be the chief executive of the US. But in the Donald Trump era we expect our leaders to be able to politik AND to sing and dance for our amusement. It is kind of fun to see these old people debase themselves with memes they don't understand.

EmpyreanFlux
Mar 1, 2013

The AUDACITY! The IMPUDENCE! The unabated NERVE!
Hey Hillary fans, please expound on Hilary's plans as president so I can be as enthused as you are.

Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:

She clearly hates doing poo poo like this, but all her focus groups and internal polling tell her that people find her "cold and in in unrelatable", so she has to contort herself into doing these cheeseball groaners rather than just be herself. In reality there's nothing wrong with being a stern and very serious person, especially if you're someone that is going to be the chief executive of the US. But in the Donald Trump era we expect our leaders to be able to politik AND to sing and dance for our amusement. It is kind of fun to see these old people debase themselves with memes they don't understand.

It's odd for me as well, but I think the disconnect is that while many could easily accept a serious person, Hilary seems to lack inspiration or decisiveness in her exposition and platform. Thus she unfairly sounds hollow in speech and her aides best advice is "make jokes", jfc. Shes not a carnival barker or an empty suit, and if she has strong opinions she should voice them instead.

I would honest to god vote for Hillary as God Empress if she was ruled with an iron fist and promised to crush the puny racists and that Sherman was good, and correct and The March to the Sea should be a national holiday. Just any strong, good stance will do.

Something Else
Dec 27, 2004

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Another cool thing about Hillary is that she wants to be President so, so badly, probably with all her heart. That's passion I can get behind

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!
have we considered the possibility that Hillary's been cucking Bill for years and is just better at keeping it on the dl? it might explain why she's still with him

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!
like what if she and al gore have been getting it on since 94

EmpyreanFlux
Mar 1, 2013

The AUDACITY! The IMPUDENCE! The unabated NERVE!

Abner Cadaver II posted:

like what if she and al gore have been getting it on since 94

Jokes on her, Bill and Gore have been getting it on since '92.

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!

FaustianQ posted:

Jokes on her, Bill and Gore have been getting it on since '92.

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
the title says it's not, but I have this feeling the op is being ironic.

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
Here is why i'm unironically excited for a Hillary Clinton Presidency

















spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
Yeah, that's something I hadn't considered. Republicans have spent the last quarter of a century just making GBS threads on her, her daughter, everything about her. So voting in someone who likely hates Republicans as much as I do will be good. She comes off as someone who probably digs getting revenge so a Hildawg presidency will be good when she like, goes to her inauguration wearing Ken Starr's pelt

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
I hope she send Mitch Mcconnell a poop in a box.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

The reason I wholeheartedly support Hillary is because of paid family leave. It's awesome.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

spacemang_spliff posted:

Yeah, that's something I hadn't considered. Republicans have spent the last quarter of a century just making GBS threads on her, her daughter, everything about her. So voting in someone who likely hates Republicans as much as I do will be good. She comes off as someone who probably digs getting revenge so a Hildawg presidency will be good when she like, goes to her inauguration wearing Ken Starr's pelt

I sure hope she draws some republican blood instead of kitten scratches like Obama if elected Pres for sure

I am unironically enjoying the finger in Boehner bit, double entendres are the best.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

spacemang_spliff posted:

Yeah, that's something I hadn't considered. Republicans have spent the last quarter of a century just making GBS threads on her, her daughter, everything about her. So voting in someone who likely hates Republicans as much as I do will be good. She comes off as someone who probably digs getting revenge so a Hildawg presidency will be good when she like, goes to her inauguration wearing Ken Starr's pelt

but she will still pass the tpp

who cares if she embarrasses idiot repubs

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

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Top City Homo posted:

but she will still pass the tpp

who cares if she embarrasses idiot repubs

What's the difference between pretending like you know everything about the TPP and pretending like you know everything about the Iran nuclear deal? Besides one being a left argument and one being a right argument.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
There are moments when her eyes don't emit the cold, dead stare of a soiopath, and in those rare times I sometimes think: "Maybe she's a real person".

That's my Hillary 2016 endorsement.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
She's been good to my family and 8 years of Hillary would ramp the GOP from Trumpocaust to Trumpstinction, this is my Hillary 2016 endorsement.

It's kinds sad Bernie seems incapable of making people angry, he's just to nice and unthreating.

Spiky Ooze
Oct 27, 2005

Bernie Sanders is a friend to my planet (pictured)


click the shit outta^

JeffersonClay posted:

Here is why i'm unironically excited for a Hillary Clinton Presidency

She's already undermined that by being their kind of war hawk, and being Wall Street brethern... I mean what else is there.

She won't talk about Jesus all day long? That's cool but not anywhere near enough.

Kanthulhu
Apr 8, 2009
NO ONE SPOIL GAME OF THRONES FOR ME!

IF SOMEONE TELLS ME THAT OBERYN MARTELL AND THE MOUNTAIN DIE THIS SEASON, I'M GOING TO BE PISSED.

BUT NOT HALF AS PISSED AS I'D BE IF SOMEONE WERE TO SPOIL VARYS KILLING A LANISTER!!!


(Dany shits in a field)
I'm excited to see the banks take another dump on the economy and have Hillary pay the bill for them, with tax payers money.

No, wait, that's not me, that's the richest most imoral people in the world. Easy mistake to make.

Something Else
Dec 27, 2004

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THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Veskit posted:

What's the difference between pretending like you know everything about the TPP and pretending like you know everything about the Iran nuclear deal? Besides one being a left argument and one being a right argument.

The terms of Iran deal have been released publicly

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Something Else posted:

The terms of Iran deal have been released publicly

Hard to release the details of a deal that doesn't exist yet. (Talking about TPP here).

Veskit
Mar 2, 2005

I love capitalism!! DM me for the best investing advice!

Something Else posted:

The terms of Iran deal have been released publicly

And?

crazy eights
Aug 23, 2015

by Lowtax
Getting a little off track here folks :)

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Kanthulhu posted:

I'm excited to see the banks take another dump on the economy and have Hillary pay the bill for them, with tax payers money.

No, wait, that's not me, that's the richest most imoral people in the world. Easy mistake to make.

TARP actually made the taxpayers money, and it forestalled a massive global economic catastrophe so let's hope we don't have some economically illiterate socialist in power if that situation arises again.

Spiky Ooze posted:

She's already undermined that by being their kind of war hawk, and being Wall Street brethern... I mean what else is there.

Campaign finance reform
Campus sexual assault
Climate change and energy
College
Criminal justice reform
Disability rights
Early childhood education
Economy
Gun violence prevention
Health care
Immigration reform
K–12 education
Labor
LGBT equality
Rural communities
Small business
Social Security and Medicare
Substance use disorder and addiction
Voting rights
Women’s rights and opportunity
Workforce and skills

Think of these as the stones in Hillary's gizzard which she will use to grind the GOP into paste.

crazy eights
Aug 23, 2015

by Lowtax
Those are certainly some words OP! :) I am excited for what Hillary will do regarding "women's opportunity" :)

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

JeffersonClay posted:

TARP actually made the taxpayers money, and it forestalled a massive global economic catastrophe so let's hope we don't have some economically illiterate socialist in power if that situation arises again.
I hope for that.

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Something Else
Dec 27, 2004

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

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That's the difference

Venom Snake posted:

Hard to release the details of a deal that doesn't exist yet. (Talking about TPP here).

Actually several congresspeople have been allowed to view the terms of the deal in private


crazy eights posted:

Getting a little off track here folks :)

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