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super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
https://en.gundam.info/about-gundam/series-pages/builddivers/gbwc/0-a.html

Turns out Build Divers has sidestories on GundamInfo and these are possibly the wildest things I have ever read:

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“He destroyed us with one shot… He’s as strong as the devil…”

“Exactly. I am the one who owns the abyss of GBN and rules over darkness. I am the all-seeing, all-knowing fallen angel…Louis XIII.” A quiet voice echoed throughout their cockpits.

”Louis XIII…?!”

Barely managing to stay afloat, Carl said in surprise, “Do you happen to be… Are you…?”

“You’re a middle schooler, aren’t you?” Tim shouted with all of his remaining strength.

A pause that felt like an eternity ensued.

”…W-why do you know that?”

“Your name gives it away. Let me guess, eighth grade?”

“N-no! I am the true heir of Satan and the master of dark and light Lucifer’sー”

“Oh, then tell me the answer to the infinitesimal calculus problem I’m about to ask you!” Carl poured salt into Louis XIII’s wound.

“I haven’t learned that in class yet!”

“He’s definitely a middle schooler.”

“I, the master, have reservations for cram school, and will log out now.”

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super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

ImpAtom posted:

Beyond Fate is easily one of the highlights of Gundam Age and it's probably singlehandedly responsible for Asemu Asuno's relative popularity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FuWZeE_N6Y

I would rewatch that scene of him going all SUPER PILOT on Desil just for that track.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

Improbable Lobster posted:

i thought the RXR-44 (F-50D) Guntank from F91 was a pretty cool take on a similar design

The Loto was designed as a predecessor to it.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

tsob posted:

I think Side 3/Zeon being dissolved as an independent entity predates Unicorn, but I honestly couldn't tell you where I'm getting that idea from.
It's in Moon Crisis as well. Serves as the main trigger for the whole plot.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Seabook's disguise is still the absolute worst and I love it.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
This decentralised solar system concept is why I wish Dust had a translation. Sengoku Jidai UC Gundam is honestly such a wild thing to see play out.

Also there are Neo Titans and I'm always down for Hasegawa's out-there poo poo.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Yeah, the original Crossbone is a pretty straightforward schlocky action story. Kid teams up with a team of noble pirate types to bring down an evil empire. Solid enough interactions, fun action, not amazing, but serviceable enough.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Maybe ANU a little?

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

Onmi posted:

The Albion, Sans Synapse, Keith and Kou is folded into the Titans following Stardust, presumably as part of the effort to cover up 0083. Synapse is Court Martialed and executed. Keith is relegated to some backwater base and Kou is the same after his imprisonment

Being relegated to a backwater base seems to be how the Titans deal with troublemakers. The same happens to Ford and Agar after they disobey orders and run off to stop Zeon Remnants from blowing up the Republic with nuclear bombs.

Also gotta say, the Gundam Legacy manga definitely conveyed some "bonds between men" energy between those two ex-Gundam pilots.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
The only "Psycommu" unit the Feds need in the OYW is the GM Juggler.

I love that beautiful disaster.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
I've met people who legitimately think the Titans were right. Their thought processes are along the lines of "it makes sense that the Feddies would need a force to take out those uppity Spacenoids so we NEVER AGAIN have the OYW".

Also they really love the Woundwort.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Elle soloing Neo Zeon off screen puts her above Roux for me, personally.

Also because I love the Mk. II.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Judau's piloting skills seem less average and more just ridiculously specialised for something like the ZZ.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

ImpAtom posted:

I just don't want to see Crossbone Gundam again for a long, long, long time.

I'm still confused how we got three games of half-hearted Crossbone and didn't even get the X3.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

the format of crossbone being multiple short manga means that there are a shitload of main unit upgrades. it's hard to keep track of them all.

But it's not. You have the original Crossbone, which is a straightforward schlocky action thing that follows a simple linear thread of pirates fight bad guys to save the Earth. Kincade starts in the X1 and sticks with it the whole time, while Tobia starts off in a Pez Batalla and later pilots the X3 until it's destroyed. They had the Pez in VTX, though it was an enemy unit only.

They adapted the original Crossbone pretty well in Alpha 2, hit all the main plot bits and did all the upgrades, so it's not something they couldn't have fit in.

Skull Heart is a collection of stories that all have Tobia in the X1 Skull Heart, so they could pick and choose from it easily. That's what they did with the Amakusa chapter.

Steel Seven is once again pretty linear, and the main upgrade is just the X1 Skull Heart being refitted into the Full Cloth. There's not too much complexity there either.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
I wish the Brawrello got more love.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Of course Amuro can use the Mobile Trace System. After all, was he not one of the many Gundam Fighters who launched up into space to aid in the fight against the Devil Gundam?

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
SEED's pretty big in China, and given how big the ACG culture in Shanghai is, it's not an unexpected choice.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
The Sword Skygrasper in OMNI vs ZAFT is possibly one of the greatest things to play in a Gundam Vs. game, matched only by stuff like Hildolfr's spin tactics.

You essentially do two things: ram things with a sword and shoot with the Vulcans.

The story stages where you fight ships are incredible because you're some rear end in a top hat in a Skygrasper dragging a sword across the Dominion like you're keying Azrael's car or something.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
The most likeliest thing they'll do in a funky SRW crossover plot is probably like the fifth or fourth coolest thing you can think of for the funky crossover plot. It'll be cool and fun but probably not the coolest.

So Setsuna will probably uh, tell Mika that he is Gundam and then Tekkadan can start a ongoing permanent contract with Celestial Being to bring about world peace via armed intervention.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

chiasaur11 posted:

It's also funny how SEED is a UC redo that adds in a Japan analogue just so Japan isn't the villains any more... and the villain factions are more popular.

I might have missed something, but as popular as SEED is, I don't see much merch suggesting that the audience is huge on ORB as a faction, while Zeon moves all kinds of merch.

M1 Astrays and the uh, Murasames, are not particularly exciting grunt suits.

Especially when you compare them to ZAFT's myriad funky machines.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Humanity going into space isn't all good either, because there's going to be conflict when you move an entire labourer class up there to build the stuff while the decision-makers who benefit the most are all cushy back on Earth. The same unjust systems are reproduced in space, and eventually something's going to give.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
YAS coming out of retirement to direct Doan's Island is just absolutely incredible. What a legend.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

jackhunter64 posted:

He can't stay hard but he eats it like a champ.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2021-06-17/gundam-yoshiyuki-tomino-reminds-us-all-that-char-definitely-has-sex/.174037

Tomino posted:

They start moaning as soon as their character gets touched by a man. There are times I find myself thinking, 'The guy wasn't dexterous enough to warrant that reaction!' Or something like, 'Have some pride when you're being made love to!' I get really exasperated, wondering why on earth they don't think something like, 'If this man doesn't lick my vagina, I'll beat the crap out of him!'

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

The Notorious ZSB posted:

Victory is bonkers but lets stop trying to act like it's "good". It has a very sloppy plot structure, is exceedingly wasteful and mean to the characters, and frankly doesn't have a cohesive theme outside of Jack from LOST's ethos of WE HAVE TO GO BACK (to kasarelia)

When I watched Victory it seemed as if it was going for something about the exploitation of women at times but the Tomino got in the way.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
So far from what buddies have told me and what gameplay and stuff I've seen of it, Code Fairy's got a fascinatingly bizarre tone.

Gameplay that's really good at nailing the energy of "Zeon ace on the frontlines dealing with the Feds rapidly getting better tech and overwhelming you", story that seems very at odds with itself like having vengeful Federation rival stuff juxtaposed against Halloween parties, stuff like that.

It seems pretty fun, with perfect lines like "The Battle of Loum, a desperate battle for independence".

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Reconguista of G makes people genki.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

Warmachine posted:

Did Blex's proposal actually have wide enough support to be theoretically possible to pass, or at least not seem like some fringe ideology? What did the actual politics of 'let's move the capital into space' look like?

http://www.ultimatemark.com/gundam/archive/zetagundamnovels.html

The Zeta novels expand on the AEUG's thing more.

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Afterwards, the people living in space, or Spacenoids, had continued pushing for the conservation of the one and only Earth. But the Earth Federation government embarked on a frenzy of reconstruction in a bid to restore the planet.

Before the Universal Century, this might have seemed like a sensible plan. But in an age where space colonies had been created, and countless millions of people lived in them, the only imaginable reason for reconstructing Earth was that they were habituated to deliberately polluting it.

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The faction of people living on Earth, the ones called Earthmen, were investing huge sums in rebuilding old cities in the name of reconstructing the Earth. This merely meant that humanity was laying the groundwork to pollute Earth's surface all over again.

On the other hand, matters such as the reconstruction of colonies damaged in the war were left entirely to the Spacenoids who lived in them. At first glance, this might seem like a recognition of Spacenoid independence, but instead it was merely neglect. Absolutely no economic assistance was provided.

On the political front, a postwar family register system was announced that would bring all the Spacenoids living in the colonies under the supervision of the Earth Federation government. All of humanity would be numbered, and measures could be taken in advance to control independence movements like the Principality of Zeon. This was a phenomenon of a regressive era.

A movement to reject the family register system arose in the colonies of Side 1, and the Earth Federation government regarded this as an act of rebellion. This was where the activities of the anti-Earth Federation government organization known as the AEUG began.

"If Earth has been destroyed at the hands of humanity, then isn't it only fair to the Earth that gave us life for us to assist the regenerative powers of nature?

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During the nearly four years that followed, the anti-Earth Federation government faction within the Earth Federation Space Force began taking concrete action. This action was carried out by an anti-Earth Federation government organization known from its initials as the AEUG. The colonies of Side 1 and Side 2 became AEUG strongholds, its influence spread among the Spacenoids, and it was also gaining more sympathizers among the soldiers of the Earth Federation Forces.

Two years ago, the Earth Federation government had employed brutal measures in an attempt to suppress this movement. The same poison gas once employed by Zeon was used to attack a colony. The target was Side 1's Banchi 30, where a large-scale AEUG rally was taking place, and 15 million Spacenoids were killed in one stroke. As the colony was a perfectly sealed space, the operation went flawlessly.

The AEUG's resolve was hardened, and a series of skirmishes took place throughout the moon and colonies. But this was part of the Earth Federation government's plan. It was meant to lance the boil of the anti-Earth Federation movement, so that it could be wiped out.

For this purpose, part of the Earth Federation Forces were used to form a special forces unit called the Titans. A base was constructed for them at the former Side 7, now known as Green Oasis.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

tsob posted:

Interesting that the Titans were formed to fight the AEUG specifically, while AEUG formed in response to general Federation aggression and authoritarianism; including at 30 Bunch. The impression I had always gotten was that the Titans formed first, that AEUG formed in response to the Titans specifically and that the Titans were the ones who gassed 30 Bunch. I guess it might be because Bask was the one who helmed the gassing of 30 Bunch according to the show, so it implies it was the Titans; rather than that he was made part of the Titans once they were created.

Yeah these novels are concurrent with the show and I assume the show works off the Titans being newer (which lines up with a lot of Zeta focusing on the Titans being kinda a newer group setting itself up), but obviously media since then has gone with the Titans showing up first (and solidified in 0083).

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

Jobbo_Fett posted:

You know what?

What happened to Yazan? Its been so long and I don't recall him dying.

Yazan!!!!

He fell into a manhole.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
You won't be able to appreciate somebody opening a pickle jar with ease if you don't see so many others struggle with the pickle jar.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
All your friends and family live on Zeon and they're a good motivator for sticking with it. Defecting's hard, and might get them in trouble too.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Inoue basically just writes whatever he finds interesting and sometimes this pans out pretty great and sometimes this pans out pretty bad.

Love the guy's writing.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Fa's performance basically swerves between "just surviving" and "solidly competent" every episode.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

wait a second. wfm is set in space, and chuchu is a ms pilot. how does she get a helmet on?

Same way as Cosmo.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

Methodology and taste in Gundam aside, I think the biggest thing -- which is also "yeah, there's probably a Gundam for everyone" -- is that even respective Gundam shows are lands of contrast, with ups and downs in quality. Like I think there's a good middle stretch of Zeta that's kinda boring, ZZ's Dublin Arc is some peak Gundam, and I think everything in Destiny up to around Break the World is actually pretty good. And even some of the bad Gundams have a lot of good points or fun casts or great sequences (everybody loves the Freedom reappearing over Orb in SEED, iconic moment). I also do respect what Victory was trying to say even if Tomino kneecapped himself in the process.

Just gotta approach Gundam with a clear mind and see what vibes and what doesn't vibe with you. Whether it's good or not doesn't really matter and at the end of the day you just gotta enjoy the stuff you wanna enjoy, drop the stuff you don't like, et cetera et cetera. Big franchise with uneven batting average, after all.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

the only consistent element is a piloted mech with a v-fin, and even for that there are exceptions.

The real consistent element is that every time I watch a Gundam I feel the urge to shell out money for model kits.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

Endorph posted:

the movies seem to be better put together but im not sure on their sub situation

The first three movies got released with official subs on Gundam Info a while back, but they're not available on their channel right now.

Movies 4 and 5 only just got released so they'll take a little longer.

Movies are definitely the better experience so far -- the overall thing is the same, but just a more cohesive product.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

wdarkk posted:

Do we know when in October exactly G-Witch will start airing? I'm not really familiar with anime seasons so is there a standard date for fall shows to start?

October 2. A bunch of this season's shows will be ending either next week or the week after (based on when they aired initially and episode counts being 12 or 13) if they haven't already, then G-Witch will show up.

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super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019

NikkolasKing posted:

It is remarkable how I've never met a single person who liked AGE in all these years.

Some of it sounded kinda interesting, too.

There's a decent buncha people who like AGE but nobody really feels strongly about AGE.

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