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I get the feeling that Derek is a huge investor of Star Citizen and he is doing this reverse psychology thing to this autist whales because they are so autistically predictable.
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EminusSleepus posted:I get the feeling that Derek is a huge investor of Star Citizen and he is doing this reverse psychology thing to this autist whales because they are so autistically predictable. I wonder how much money Chris Roberts paid Derek under the table E: Do you guys think Braben is in on it too??
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Mar 25, 2016 13:02
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Risc1911 posted:WOW! They threw away the Illfonic sound design, which was incredible and recorded it again? No really, this is amazing. It literally sounds like someone rustling a rucksack above your head and rattling a belt to either side of you. This is exactly the kind of sound that Bunnyman would make creeping around that corridor.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:03
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Scruffpuff posted:Like a great philosopher once said, "The mind makes it real." These people are so desperate for the space game of their dreams, that they're shackling every hope and dream they have onto the first person to promise it to them, even if that person is totally incapable of delivering. The desire to escape real life is just too strong. Consider their posts - they can't conceive of a world where lots of people see that Star Citizen is failing - in their world, only Derek Smart claims it. In their world, Derek WANTS it to fail. In their world, giving Star Citizen more money hurts DEREK'S feelings. In their world, the game will come out. Their world is not the real world, so nothing they do will make sense out here where the rest of us live. Their actions only make sense in the context of the imaginary world they built in their heads. Since they live in an imaginary world 100% of the time anyway, I'm not sure why they need Chris's so badly. Waiting for the point where a cultist actually realises what Derek is saying about the problems with the game. "Thanks to PR guy Derek, I went to the CIG Austin studio and convinced Chris to step down as head of the project and found a competent lead designer to take his place! Hah! Where are your predictions of failure now?" To which the only possible reply would be "Touché"
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Mar 25, 2016 13:04
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Ghostlight posted:Every great troll consists of three parts or acts. The first part is called "The Pledge". The troll shows you something ordinary: a stupid comment, a procedurally generated bird or a photoshop. He shows you this thing. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it to see if it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course... it probably isn't. The second act is called "The Turn". The troll takes the ordinary something and makes it something unbelievably stupid. Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to think you're better than him. But you wouldn't ban him yet. Because making himself look stupid isn't enough; he has to reveal it in a manner that embarrasses you. That's why every great troll has a third act, the hardest part, the part we call "The Prestige". This is a Good Post.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:08
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Sushi in Yiddish posted:Now this is what a game in development video can look like They should keep this all 2D. It looks like the menus for the old X-Wing and Tie Fighter games. Clicking on animated hangar doors, etc Risc1911 posted:WOW! They threw away the Illfonic sound design, which was incredible and recorded it again?  all that tail and echo was baked into the sound samples? Did they sound the same when fired in a corridor? Half-Life had clean weapon sounds that were modified by a DSP system picking up hints the map makers put in. Holy poo poo.
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Risc1911 posted:WOW! They threw away the Illfonic sound design, which was incredible and recorded it again? *Spoilers* based on the sounds, I was able to track down their updated player character model 
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Mar 25, 2016 13:19
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Risc1911 posted:WOW! They threw away the Illfonic sound design, which was incredible and recorded it again? Just fuckin' clankin' a pair of grenades next to a mic, not even "pulling the pin noises" or "rolling down a corridor" noises just literally -primary school clacking a pair of coconuts and pretending you're a horse- levels of sound design. OVER 100 MILLION DOLLARS EVERYONE OVER 100 MILLION DOLLARS EVERYONE OVER 100 MILLION DOLLARS EVERYONE OVER 100 MILLION DOLLARS EVERYONE OVER 100 MILLION DOLLARS EVERYONE
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Mar 25, 2016 13:19
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you will constantly hear the sound of your spaceman falling down the stairs
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Mar 25, 2016 13:22
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Star Citizen - Whenever Derek's rambling reached its peak, I'd just buy another ship
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Mar 25, 2016 13:22
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Daztek posted:Star Citizen - Whenever Derek's rambling reached its peak, I'd just buy another ship im confused as to why they think derek would be angry that they, the people who hate/cyberstalk him, are throwing more of their money away?
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Mar 25, 2016 13:24
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Happy Sisyphus posted:im confused as to why they think derek would be angry that they, the people who hate/cyberstalk him, are throwing more of their money away? Because they think Derek is poor and somehow is jealous of Star Citizen's $110million or I don't know 
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Mar 25, 2016 13:26
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Happy Sisyphus posted:im confused as to why they think derek would be angry that they, the people who hate/cyberstalk him, are throwing more of their money away? Not that they're throwing it away (in their minds, at least), so much as pledging it to their Supreme Leader Chris Roberts, in absolute confidence that he will make the BDSSE, and to spite Derek. They think Derek is just jelly that no one plays his games, and that Christ Roberts has $110+ million to develop Star Citizen.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:27
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Happy Sisyphus posted:im confused as to why they think derek would be angry that they, the people who hate/cyberstalk him, are throwing more of their money away? I'm trying to imagine what my 2001 self would have said to the concept of people doing anything to spite Derek, let alone lighting hundreds of dollars on fire, and I'm pretty sure I would not have been able to actually accept the concept as plausible. People are hosed up, man.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:28
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Daztek posted:I wonder how much money Chris Roberts paid Derek under the table as they say "the industry is small lol everyone knows everyone"
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Mar 25, 2016 13:30
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Just to make this perfectly clear. I remember a guy going to EA and spreading the joy via stickers and papers of sausage citizen. I bet EA are glad they arent bound to this as it will blacken thier name and make them the worst company in america. And ya the role of oversight is essential because if not you get CR.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:31
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TTerrible posted:They should keep this all 2D. It looks like the menus for the old X-Wing and Tie Fighter games. Clicking on animated hangar doors, etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2OVeUxfjuM&t=3275s The OLD system has the character audio straight down the middle which is the correct way to do it. The NEW system has every sound the player model makes panned out left and right in first person mode which is loving stupid. If you pause the video and look at the text you can see they are automating the volume of each sound by the speed of each limb and the distance from the camera. Each sound is well recorded so you can hear exactly what it is - someone shaking some poo poo in front of a mic. Altogether it sounds like a bag of rubbish being shaken around. It's loving crap, and I hope there's at least one other audio guy in here who can back me up on this, it sounds like poo poo. Each bone in the model has a separate sound, but once you get beyond 4 or 5 things your brain doesn't know the difference and it sounds like a mess. In fact I've just realised that's why they've had to pan the jingly jangly high end sounds out to the sides, there are so many individual sounds going on they've had to separate them out, and that's your first move right there, panning them out of the way. Really really terrible sound design in my humble semi-professional opinion. Toops please send this to your audio friend.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:34
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Risc1911 posted:WOW! They threw away the Illfonic sound design, which was incredible and recorded it again? for the love of god, someone make a thread about this on the forum. The sound was recorded in the office with some 3rd grade material instead of what Ilffonic showed. The guys who are doing it probably have no loving experience what so ever with audio. Sidenote : do you guys think squadron 42 would get the same treatment? Meaning amateur hour? So far this is the saddest thing I have ever seen from SC. I mean I literally have no words for it. And it also illustrates how hosed up this whole " development" is.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:39
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SomethingJones posted:Really really terrible sound design in my humble semi-professional opinion. Toops please send this to your audio friend. Someone please look for a post on the official RSI forums proclaiming that this new sound design is "revolutionary", and the "most impressive sound design I have ever heard in the history of games". Because you know it will happen.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:40
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When the game either collapses under its own weight or releases like the floating turd it is Braben should give out free copies of the base E:D to celebrate. By then the base game would be dirt cheap and you can get people to buy the dlcs for more profit.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:41
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Daztek posted:E: Do you guys think Braben is in on it too?? CR: "Whoosh spreeaow shhhhpptt fwoom." /waves hands around DB: "Yeah, just like that Chris. Just like that."
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Mar 25, 2016 13:42
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D1E posted:Someone please look for a post on the official RSI forums proclaiming that this new sound design is "revolutionary", and the "most impressive sound design I have ever heard in the history of games". Ask and yee shall receive.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:46
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Wait, I'm confused. Why are they recording sound when they could just engineer a state of the art acoustic simulation engine to make all sound as it happens, procedurally? It seems like that would be more immersive and authentic.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:47
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chaosbreather posted:Wait, I'm confused. Why are they recording sound when they could just engineer a state of the art acoustic simulation engine to make all sound as it happens, procedurally? It seems like that would be more immersive and authentic. Please someone ask Chris if this will be in the game.
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chaosbreather posted:Wait, I'm confused. Why are they recording sound when they could just engineer a state of the art acoustic simulation engine to make all sound as it happens, procedurally? It seems like that would be more immersive and authentic. Because they're short around 50 engineers and so now the forum moderators are responsible for the game's sound design.
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Crazy_BlackParrot posted:for the love of god, someone make a thread about this on the forum. Honestly, you can get away with that recording setup, although having the mic in the corner of the room is a bit odd. I've used a shotgun to record a vocal track in a room like that back when I didn't know what I was doing. You can pretty much get away with it for little sounds like that. If they knew what they were doing they'd have a foley artist come in and perform to their animations. Those guys and girls are seriously talented with super sharp timing. Taking a big loving rustling noise and leather sounds and putting one on each moving anim bone and expecting it to sound good? GET THE gently caress OUT. But seriously now guys. Every single loving thing they do is pure poo poo. poo poo physics, poo poo broken animations, barely watchable poo poo loving video promos of mumbling bumbling buffoons talking poo poo. poo poo flight model. poo poo environment design. And now poo poo audio design. All poo poo, all of it. All pure loving poo poo. A total disaster, a laughing stock, a money pit, a trainwreck. Long may it continue.
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quote:CIG if i'm not mistaken have three offices full of developers and because those offices are located in different timezones each work is passed to another office at workday end. So basically all development is constantly in progress and this mean that 3 years of development is equal to 9 years A few pages back but this one is fantastic and should not be overlooked.
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... such thinking gives me hopes for squadron release in late 2016 or begining of 2017
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I'm the guy who decided to put the professionally recorded sounds of actual weapons being fired in different acoustic situations in the bin and jingle some keys and a bag in front of a mic instead
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cocaine dad show posted:I'm the guy who decided to put the professionally recorded sounds of actual weapons being fired in different acoustic situations in the bin and jingle some keys and a bag in front of a mic instead Are you Chris Roberts???
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SomethingJones posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2OVeUxfjuM&t=3275s Toops audio friend is completely out of SCs league. I would like their take on this too. What a loving shitshow.
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SomethingJones posted:stuff Even so, who the hell get the bright idea to put a jingly bell sound on movement? It sounds like Santa in space. STAR CITIZEN - Just when you thought it couldn't be worse.
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Mar 25, 2016 13:52
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@Dsmart woke up with some fire in his gut cause he's going off on twitter right now. https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/713345642622558208
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canepazzo posted:A few pages back but this one is fantastic and should not be overlooked.  G0RF, you need to update you graph
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Chalks posted:Hey obsessive CIG fans - please keep doing this. Seriously. If your burning hatred for anyone who disagrees with you is so strong that this seems like a good idea, then the life lesson you'll learn at the end of this will be worth every penny, trust me. Yes this is something I ve also seen a lot. These guys seem to think that the only variable worth tracking is cash inflow. They somehow asume that given enough cash anything is possible. Many of these cultist can not even comtemplate the possibility that CIG does not have the right management wisdom and the technical competence or tools to deliver the dream. In their minds, with enough cash, it is all a given.
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I remember when I first downloaded and tried out the PTU. I sat there, experiencing the head bob, motion blur, unskippable animations, and I was just bemused. I remember squinting and getting a confused look on my face, to the point my wife noticed and asked me, "What's that face for - what are you looking at?" and my response, "I'm not sure yet." I tried to see what the fuss was about, and all I got was a bad experience. I don't mean "I threw up on the roller-coaster" bad experience - I mean "I didn't find out until the following morning she was a man" bad experience. The PTU is horrifyingly, stupefyingly bad. I had suspected something was wrong with the project for a long time, but once I saw what they'd gotten done, I knew all bets were off. In a sane world, the very day the PTU was released should have also marked the day of the very last dollar they ever raised. The fact that the funding has not come to a full stop is irrefutable evidence of rampant mental problems among his backer base. People should get on that server, gently caress about a bit, look up with a grin and say, "You're kidding, right? This is a parody or something, get out." And you have to say, "No, I'm sorry, this is really the game. There is a parody one, but it's actually better than this. I'm afraid this is honestly what they built." But that isn't what happens. They log in, cream their pants, and throw more money at CIG. I have zero sympathy for anyone running this company. It may have started as an honest endeavor, but it's not any more - and it hasn't been for a long while now.
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Scruffpuff posted:I remember when I first downloaded and tried out the PTU. I sat there, experiencing the head bob, motion blur, unskippable animations, and I was just bemused. I remember squinting and getting a confused look on my face, to the point my wife noticed and asked me, "What's that face for - what are you looking at?" and my response, "I'm not sure yet." "But they can't fix it if we don't invest. Clearly you don't understand game development" - A cultist answer to that.
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Give them more money, shut up and eat your poo poo. I'm done now, I don't even feel bad for these dickheads, if you have money in this you deserve to be loving mocked on the internet forever. Hello Games developed a procedural scoring system, got loving 65 Days of Static in to record a shitload of awesome music, never been done before. Tiny team making something truly artistic and unique. And here's CIG loving around with a mic in a backroom, and making something that sounds like total poo poo. Pan all your player character sounds out to the sides in an FPS game, that's a GREAT idea.
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Daztek posted:Are you Chris Roberts??? so that's errr a pretty good question uhhhh, and uuh, so in terms of you know, sort of, the question, it's well errr, like, who exactly uh who, then uh, so this is uhhhh, who and so on and errr, so there you go, dunno if that uhhh answered the question
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I didn't think this week could get any better, but here we go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLpYxot95Ns quote:This episode was wrought with technical difficulties. I had some issues with a USB hub with caused my video to fail and when setting up the call Ben and I were unable to get audio to work. In the end, I have Ben's video and Audio and my Audio. That is a win when you see You're up SomethingJones 
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