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Peroxide Cowboy: Nov 30, 2013

Quotes #21,244 and #14,547.

:dogbutton:

edit: Holy poo poo Ben you loving creep.

Peroxide Cowboy fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Apr 16, 2016

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:11

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 13:15

Ragequit: Jun 1, 2006; Lipstick Apathy

Hezzy posted:

Doxxing isn't a good idea, wait for mod approval

It's about me. I am probably allowed to say my own "supposed" name. Happy to wait either way.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:11

Sir Simon Milligan: Mar 27, 2003; Yes, I have walked along the path of evil many times, it's a twisting curving path, that actually leads to a charming block garden, but beyond that evil!

You know what country has good terrorists? France... When I was living in Aix... these people bombed the city hall... but they payed all the homeless people outside to go away first. #4,890

And technically, she's not *my* three year old... I just kidnapped her. #20,108

But what if I meet my future wife, get married have children and the children become th e next hitlers... and then I'll never have the chance to have genocidal kids:~( #10,413

He so silly.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:12

Phi230: Feb 2, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Just post
We have crossed all lines of discretion

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:12

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Phi230 posted:

Just post
We have crossed all lines of discretion

It's all gone to poo poo.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:13

boviscopophobic: Feb 5, 2016

Ash1138 posted:

If they shitcan Ben, does he spill the beans? On the one hand, he's a spineless loser. On the other hand, he has nothing and is nothing without Lord Croberts and Wing Commander. Like being expelled from The Garden of Eden. What would he have to lose?

Spilling the beans would be giving the goons/DS what they want -- the very same toxic dinks who were responsible for his downfall.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:13

Berious: Nov 13, 2005

Lime Tonics posted:

I could start a profitable religion. #587

It just keeps going ffs

You sure could Ben, you sure could.

I'm mostly excited about the loving years of Twitch quotes we've unearthed

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:13

Tokyo Sexwale: Jul 30, 2003

G0RF posted:

I'm sorry -- the Book of Loaf is a laundry list of S.J.W. Unforgivable Sins and if CIG thinks they'll sweep this under the rug and do The Escapist Shuffle on this they're going reap the whirlwind.

I can't recall a single story in gaming history with the built in potential energy that this one has. Even if the gaming press keeps playing Hamlet, it doesn't matter anymore. I'm not talking about Book of Loaf specifically-- I mean the whole thing including it. It's made of the kind of stuff that a seasoned pro (Atlantic, NY Times, etc.) could fashion an absolute masterpiece from-- the water cooler story of the season. The one that bags them millions of clicks and serves up as many high-dollar ads for luxury watches and vehicles and vacations in the process. It's not just an odd gaming story-- the scale of it, the enormity of it defies such dismissals.

It's hilarious, heartbreaking, eye-popping madness at this point and what is perhaps most amazing about it is that it's all right there. The gold is everywhere-- glistening in the riverbed, gleaming through the dust. This is 1848 at Sutter's Mill kind of stuff... You barely need a mining or refinement operation -- the nuggets need only be picked up, pocketed, melted down and fashioned into a treasure.

I don't know when it happens but that it will happen is inevitable now. And when it finally breaks -- really breaks big -- you'll hear the annoyed signs of gaming journos everywhere as they realized they'd been walking over it, swimming above it for years and they missed it. It was their beat, their homeland-- and they missed it.

Yet again, they missed it.

Gold Rush! was my favourite Sierra game, so I love you for that reference. This is the kind of story that could conceivably show people 'gaming media' isn't just a bad joke, but just like with Ion Storm it took a regular reporter at a regular newspaper to break that floodgate.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:15

Tokyo Sexwale: Jul 30, 2003

Berious posted:

You sure could Ben, you sure could.

I'm mostly excited about the loving years of Twitch quotes we've unearthed

we could go hog wild in every AtV and RtV until the end of CIG with this.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:16

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

Jason Sextro posted:

Gold Rush! was my favourite Sierra game, so I love you for that reference. This is the kind of story that could conceivably show people 'gaming media' isn't just a bad joke, but just like with Ion Storm it took a regular reporter at a regular newspaper to break that floodgate.

I used to love Sierra games... Then they started using the crap rear end notype interface and I said to hell with Sierra, I'll find a new game... #4,316

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:16

Kakarot: Jul 20, 2013; by zen death robot; Buglord

Holy! This Ben stuff is creepy. Hope derek is archiving!

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:16

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:16

FlyingKipper: May 11, 2005

I wonder how happy Time Warner are going to be when they realize exactly what kind of employees CIG hires?

My guess is that TW Business commercial is never seen again.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:18

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Ash1138 posted:

If they shitcan Ben, does he spill the beans? On the one hand, he's a spineless loser. On the other hand, he has nothing and is nothing without Lord Croberts and Wing Commander. Like being expelled from The Garden of Eden. What would he have to lose?

I just don't know if he'd want to. He doesn't seem like the sort who would talk, not against Chris and Sandi who have treated him very well. I'm only guessing but he doesn't strike me as the sort who would go rogue-- and honestly, it's possible Chris and Sandi would 'take care of him' in such a way as to reward his silence.

I'm just speculating but I don't think he'd be getting little digs in here and there like some have (Wingman, etc.)

Honestly they could pretend to let him go and flip him to a salary from a sub-company. The optics would look right from afar (terrible under audit). These are the kinds of outcomes I would assume would be discussed.

If they fired Will for the 'leaving marijuana on his desk while doing a video interview' embarrassment (even though I'd guess they didn't want to), I think they'll use similar logic here. If they circle wagons and wrap arms around Ben and say 'we support him' then they'll pay a very high price (in the press and internally with their beleaguered and demoralized workforce).

Foundry employees are tasked with saving CIG from Chris Roberts. Chris' future is in THEIR hands. They already see the indulgence of the LA group as an affront, surely-- and Ben's title is an insult to folks at Foundry who CAN ACTUALLY DESIGN AND BUILD SPACESHIPS. But this? This would only add to their frustrations and the fallout, I suspect, would be organizationally severe.

Chris has to keep Foundry happy more than he has to protect Ben from himself...

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:18

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

boviscopophobic posted:

Spilling the beans would be giving the goons/DS what they want -- the very same toxic dinks who were responsible for his downfall.

That's a double edged sword. On the other hand, if he gets shitcanned, he could turn on CIG for not backing him up. Then again, he'd be too dumb to do that because Alexis (the other half of their income) works there. And the poor woman is going to be caught in the crossfire no matter how this swings.

Either way, his rear end is going to end up in a cramped chair, in a well airconditioned room in which he will be sweating buckets of lard, while under deposition.

I've said it before, I will say it again: There is absolutely NO version of this, whereby these rear end-clowns get away with what they've done.

This, again, are the happenstance effects of the E.L.E.

D_Smart fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Apr 16, 2016

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:20

osker: Dec 18, 2002; Wedge Regret

G0RF posted:

I just don't know if he'd want to. He doesn't seem like the sort who would talk, not against Chris and Sandi who have treated him very well. I'm only guessing but he doesn't strike me as the sort who would go rogue-- and honestly, it's possible Chris and Sandi would 'take care of him' in such a way as to reward his silence.

I'm just speculating but I don't think he'd be getting little digs in here and there like some have (Wingman, etc.)

Honestly they could pretend to let him go and flip him to a salary from a sub-company. The optics would look right from afar (terrible under audit). These are the kinds of outcomes I would assume would be discussed.

If they fired Will for the 'leaving marijuana on his desk while doing a video interview' embarrassment (even though I'd guess they didn't want to), I think they'll use similar logic here. If they circle wagons and wrap arms around Ben and say 'we support him' then they'll pay a very high price (in the press and internally with their beleaguered and demoralized workforce).

Foundry employees are tasked with saving CIG from Chris Roberts. Chris' future is in THEIR hands. They already see the indulgence of the LA group as an affront, surely-- and Ben's title is an insult to folks at Foundry who CAN ACTUALLY DESIGN AND BUILD SPACESHIPS. But this? This would only add to their frustrations and the fallout, I suspect, would be organizationally severe.

Chris has to keep Foundry happy more than he has to protect Ben from himself...

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4acb72f26cad04a030ceeae5fc9e219e
I keep reading this and his CR obsession is just absolute madness.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:20

Tokyo Sexwale: Jul 30, 2003

Daztek posted:

I used to love Sierra games... Then they started using the crap rear end notype interface and I said to hell with Sierra, I'll find a new game... #4,316

I know you made that up because there's no way Ben Lesnick enjoyed any game that wasn't Wing Commander.

The only thing that I think will get Ben fired is bringing to attention his unflattering quotes about Chris Roberts.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:20

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Kakarot posted:

Holy! This Ben stuff is creepy. Hope derek is archiving!

I've scraped and archived the entire site, and uploaded to an Amazon S3 repo.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:21

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

I believe that people change, and what someone was like years ago may not represent who they are now. Addicts, the sick, victims of abuse, people can be subjected to horrible things and become better for it.

Ben Lesnick is not one of those people. He is still the same spiteful, petty, stupid person he was at the beginning of Star Citizen, and seeing those posts I see no reason to believe he was any different back then. He has no business representing a company, especially one created by the community they serve. Frankly he has failed every challenge set before him, and I see no reason to believe this will be any different.

He will not be fired. He knows too much, and if he were to be let go he would not sign a NDA. Doing so would kill his only hope at making money; selling his story. The damage Ben can do is incredible and I have no doubt that he would do it if there was nothing left.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:21

Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

G0RF posted:

I just don't know if he'd want to. He doesn't seem like the sort who would talk, not against Chris and Sandi who have treated him very well. I'm only guessing but he doesn't strike me as the sort who would go rogue-- and honestly, it's possible Chris and Sandi would 'take care of him' in such a way as to reward his silence.

I'm just speculating but I don't think he'd be getting little digs in here and there like some have (Wingman, etc.)

Honestly they could pretend to let him go and flip him to a salary from a sub-company. The optics would look right from afar (terrible under audit). These are the kinds of outcomes I would assume would be discussed.

If they fired Will for the 'leaving marijuana on his desk while doing a video interview' embarrassment (even though I'd guess they didn't want to), I think they'll use similar logic here. If they circle wagons and wrap arms around Ben and say 'we support him' then they'll pay a very high price (in the press and internally with their beleaguered and demoralized workforce).

Foundry employees are tasked with saving CIG from Chris Roberts. Chris' future is in THEIR hands. They already see the indulgence of the LA group as an affront, surely-- and Ben's title is an insult to folks at Foundry who CAN ACTUALLY DESIGN AND BUILD SPACESHIPS. But this? This would only add to their frustrations and the fallout, I suspect, would be organizationally severe.

Chris has to keep Foundry happy more than he has to protect Ben from himself...

Please check your PMs G0RF

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:21

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

osker posted:

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4acb72f26cad04a030ceeae5fc9e219e
I keep reading this and his CR obsession is just absolute madness.

Mind, he has/had a friend called Chris Reid

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:22

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

somewhere, some how, beer is cumming

Efb by the man himself

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:22

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

G0RF posted:

I just don't know if he'd want to. He doesn't seem like the sort who would talk, not against Chris and Sandi who have treated him very well. I'm only guessing but he doesn't strike me as the sort who would go rogue-- and honestly, it's possible Chris and Sandi would 'take care of him' in such a way as to reward his silence.

I'm just speculating but I don't think he'd be getting little digs in here and there like some have (Wingman, etc.)

Honestly they could pretend to let him go and flip him to a salary from a sub-company. The optics would look right from afar (terrible under audit). These are the kinds of outcomes I would assume would be discussed.

If they fired Will for the 'leaving marijuana on his desk while doing a video interview' embarrassment (even though I'd guess they didn't want to), I think they'll use similar logic here. If they circle wagons and wrap arms around Ben and say 'we support him' then they'll pay a very high price (in the press and internally with their beleaguered and demoralized workforce).

Foundry employees are tasked with saving CIG from Chris Roberts. Chris' future is in THEIR hands. They already see the indulgence of the LA group as an affront, surely-- and Ben's title is an insult to folks at Foundry who CAN ACTUALLY DESIGN AND BUILD SPACESHIPS. But this? This would only add to their frustrations and the fallout, I suspect, would be organizationally severe.

Chris has to keep Foundry happy more than he has to protect Ben from himself...

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:22

Chalks: Sep 30, 2009

They won't give a poo poo, not will they do anything about it. If they had a professional PR guy he would probably tell them to fire Ben but they've got no accountability and nobody giving them good advice.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:23

Peroxide Cowboy: Nov 30, 2013

"If I were like a pedophile or something I might do that." #14,546

"No, but If I was going to rape 12 year old girls I'd get a vasectomy... but I'm not so I won't so there." #14,547

<Trelane> "Sometimes I envy the Japanese. Like, I bet their Ramen is much better than the crappy Ramen we have here. Also, the radiation from Nagasaki and Hiroshima will one day result in the creation of Nipponese Supermen"
<LOAF> "And they get to have sex with thirteen year olds all the time. Instead of once or twice a month." #21,244

- Ben Lesnick

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:23

osker: Dec 18, 2002; Wedge Regret

Daztek posted:

Mind, he has/had a friend called Chris Reid

Hah, gently caress me, I thought there was a Psycho type scenario in which he is talking to a Chris Roberts pillow doll on a rocking chair with its back turned to us.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:24

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I believe that people change, and what someone was like years ago may not represent who they are now. Addicts, the sick, victims of abuse, people can be subjected to horrible things and become better for it.

Ben Lesnick is not one of those people. He is still the same spiteful, petty, stupid person he was at the beginning of Star Citizen, and seeing those posts I see no reason to believe he was any different back then. He has no business representing a company, especially one created by the community they serve. Frankly he has failed every challenge set before him, and I see no reason to believe this will be any different.

He will not be fired. He knows too much, and if he were to be let go he would not sign a NDA. Doing so would kill his only hope at making money; selling his story. The damage Ben can do is incredible and I have no doubt that he would do it if there was nothing left.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:24

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Chalks posted:

They won't give a poo poo, not will they do anything about it. If they had a professional PR guy he would probably tell them to fire Ben but they've got no accountability and nobody giving them good advice.

I have already notified David Swofford via email and Facebook. I also just tweeted at him

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/721434689332998144

D_Smart fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Apr 16, 2016

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:25

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Derek, did you know about this site before it was posted?

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:25

A Neurotic Jew: Feb 17, 2012; by exmarx

D_Smart posted:

I have already notified David Swofford

lol nice

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:26

Kakarot: Jul 20, 2013; by zen death robot; Buglord

alphabettitouretti posted:

It's a real shame that Lesnick's deep thoughts are archived on an obscure site where few can enjoy them.

https://twitter.com/BenLesnickSays

Oh shiiieeet

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:27

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Google Butt posted:

Derek, did you know about this site before it was posted?

No. The news broken (by a Goon) in my private Discord server channel. It went crazy from there. And it's not even 24hrs yet.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:28

A Neurotic Jew: Feb 17, 2012; by exmarx

https://twitter.com/ShitLesnickSaid/status/721434921127043077

:knope:

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:28

TTerrible: Jul 15, 2005

A Neurotic Jew posted:

https://twitter.com/ShitLesnickSaid/status/721434921127043077

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:29

osker: Dec 18, 2002; Wedge Regret

NSFW but kind of funny that he inserted his name in there.

osker fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Apr 16, 2016

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:30

Generation Internet: Jan 18, 2009; Where angels and generals fear to tread.

https://twitter.com/discolando/status/721432094455439360

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:30

Lime Tonics: Nov 7, 2015; by FactsAreUseless

They have 6 days till the next live show, plenty of time.

I am still puzzled why he would keep all this stuff. The whole news reporter picture thing is what creeps me out the most though. I know I said Bens murder dungeon ARG last night, but drat.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:30

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

out of everyone at cig, I feel the worst for the slimy nerds wife

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:30

Tokyo Sexwale: Jul 30, 2003

I'm wagering Lando has never been a Lesnick fan.

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:31

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 13:15

SurfaceDetail: Feb 17, 2016; by Cowcaster

Generation Internet posted:

https://twitter.com/discolando/status/721432094455439360

getting the vibe he and ben werent friends lol

# ? Apr 16, 2016 21:31

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