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Crash74
May 11, 2009
Giant dick monster duh

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

McGiggins posted:

Thread owns, spaceships pwns, Karl is bad, etc etc

What would goons do if they had a mocap studio or four of their very own?

Make porn.

I'd fleece so many nerds that even Chris Roberts would applaud me.

Misren
Nov 30, 2014

First the doctor told me the good news: I was going to have a disease named after me.
Is star citizen a game yet?

Roshambo
Jan 18, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlfZi1eq_88

I know someone personally who has 5,000 dumped into this garbage. I tried to explain to him at 250 it was a rip off and over the course of 3 years I guess they have suckered him into more. At first he called it an "investment", but I explained to him an investment entails some kind of return on his money. I explained to him refunds were entirely possible if you threaten a chargeback, but his faith in Chris Roberts hasn't wavered. Angry Joe is his primary source for video game reviews, and I finally made the connection tonight. The hiding purchases from spouse and neglecting household bills is a very real thing. All I can do is stand by and watch. For some reason Star Citizen is an all consuming thing with people.

I am of the opinion that crowdfunding is poo poo and early access is toxic to video games as a whole.

I hope Derek Smart burns CIG to the ground.

Roshambo fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Nov 30, 2015

McGiggins
Apr 4, 2014

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
I predicted the porn reply, and I too would make CGI porn to fleece people with the dreams of the ultimate porno. It would be weird to do both roles I think though, especially having to edit that poo poo in post.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


I know this is going to sound condescending but I genuinely don't understand how anyone can see one of this guy's videos and not immediately go "Oh this is a channel for idiot children." I mean I'm no one to judge, I like video games and children's cartoons, but seriously- what about him says "Here is a credible source for news about your hobby?"

Kakarot
Jul 20, 2013

by zen death robot
Buglord

Sarsapariller posted:

I know this is going to sound condescending but I genuinely don't understand how anyone can see one of this guy's videos and not immediately go "Oh this is a channel for idiot children." I mean I'm no one to judge, I like video games and children's cartoons, but seriously- what about him says "Here is a credible source for news about your hobby?"

lol

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

McGiggins posted:

I predicted the porn reply, and I too would make CGI porn to fleece people with the dreams of the ultimate porno. It would be weird to do both roles I think though, especially having to edit that poo poo in post.

No need to edit, there's already a fetish for that.

Ravane
Oct 23, 2010

by LadyAmbien
I'm gonna put a space opera twist on this latest phrase:

Go frack yourself, Karl! :smuggo:

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
I said it before, but it seems like the pool of suckers for Star Citizen and Soylent are pretty much the same; hyper-compulsive people who want to live in THE FUTURE!!

Just waiting for the first emaciated corpse with cadmium poisoning found clutching a HOTAS in front of a SC crash screen.

bald gnome error
Feb 9, 2011
I'm so loving mad about that last Karl post that I'm going to give you all my apple pie recipe

PIE CRUST

A lot of people are scared of making pie crust from scratch. It is okay! You just have to remember one secret and your crust will come out flaky and moist and buttery, not heavy or chewy. The secret is that your butter has to be cold. This applies even once it is in the crust. Your dough will be a pain in the rear end to work regardless, but if you keep the dough cold you will be just fine. (Toss it in the fridge/freezer as you work it with your hands and it warms up; a double-crusted pie is nice for this because you can work one crust while the other chills again.)

2.5 cups flour
1 tbsp sugar
3/4 tsp salt
1 cup butter
~5 tbsp ice water

Make some ice water. Remember: cold! Mix up your flour, sugar, and salt evenly. Take your butter out of the fridge and cut it into the dry ingredients. A couple of forks work okay for this if you don't have anything fancier. Try to touch the butter as little as possible with your hands. Keep cutting the butter into little chunks and mix it with the dry ingredients until everything has a roughly even, sandy texture. You can still have some bigger chunks of butter in there, but keep them to the size of a blueberry at absolute largest. Pea-size is better.

Take your ice water and add it tablespoon by tablespoon, mixing in evenly, until a dough forms. Again - try to work it as little as possible - when you're done, it will be kind of annoying to get it into a ball, and some little pieces will be flaking off all over. That's cool. Just slap them onto the dough mass and go with it.

Divide your dough into two rough balls, wrap in plastic wrap, pop them in the fridge for about half an hour.

While that chills, you can make your APPLE PIE FILLING!

~6 Granny Smith apples (are there other kinds of green apples even?)
2 tsp lemon juice
2/3 cups brown sugar
1/4 cup white sugar
(you can alter this blend of sugars to taste, this is just my personal preference; you can also add vanilla at this point if you want some. I like ~1 tsp of vanilla bean paste)
3 tbsp cornstarch
1 tsp cinnamon
pinch nutmeg
pinch salt

Core apples and slice, mix dry ingredients, mix with apple slices and lemon juice (& vanilla if desired). Christ, wasn't that easier than the crust?

Hahahaha sucker! Now it's crust time again! Seriously though, if you're patient, this isn't bad. Take a dough ball out. Start rolling it to a size that will overlap your pie pan reasonably (you'll need the overlap to make a nice sealed edge). When it gets warm and you can see/feel the butter starting to work fully into the dough, rather than remaining flaky and slightly lumpy, rewrap and put back in the fridge. Repeat with other dough ball. Repeat switching until both crusts are of a suitable size.

Butter the pie pan, lay down the bottom crust, and make sure you have a nice even seal around the bottom and sides of the pan. Pour apple filling in. Add a few little dots of butter all around the top of the filling. Lay top crust over, and roll the overhang from both crusts into a cute little rim around the pie. Maybe you want to make a pattern with a fork, or use your thumb to make a wave pattern, or whatever. Go nuts.

Once everything is sealed up nicely, cut vents in the top crust. You can do slits if you are boring. My mom always did heart-shaped vents so I usually include at least a couple. Maybe you can write a message if you are skilled with a knife!

If you want the best, tastiest top crust, you should brush it with some milk and sprinkle it with cinnamon sugar.

Bake at 425 degrees for 15 minutes, then reduce the heat to 375 and let it go for about an hour longer. You'll know it's done when the juices are bubbling and everything inside has solidified into a bit more of a jelly than a loose pile of fruit.

Oh, I almost forgot the most important step! poo poo! The absolute most important part of this recipe is, of course, GO gently caress YOURSELF, KARL

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Totallynotkarl posted:

Sometimes I just want to go outside and scream until I fall unconscious. It's like trying to teach dogs not to lick their balls... They said leave it be, heck even Karl said leave it be, there will be at least one i.... . telling you that there are papers with a different opinion than what's written in the books, even though I pointed that out. Just think about what impact on human population something like this would have.

McGiggins
Apr 4, 2014

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy

Jobbo_Fett posted:

No need to edit, there's already a fetish for that.

:( This makes me a sad person. Not kink shaming though.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Prop Wash posted:

hahahaha citizen just walk away from the screen like citizen close your eyes hahaha

Bitter Beard
Sep 11, 2001

I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing!!

Broccoli Cat posted:

well, another awesome metagame stern talking-to logged.

by association, I might as well claim a little bit of



Being linked with nerd depression *slash* Christ Robert's biggest crowd funded game flame out and SA being the cause of it; I'm cool with that.

no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Bitter Beard posted:

Being linked with nerd depression *slash* Christ Robert's biggest crowd funded game flame out and SA being the cause of it; I'm cool with that.

They buy jpegs as anti-depressants. Its depressing.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

People have mentioned that departures are expected after the "holidays". Is this real and are we talking January?

The part of me that wants some sort of success for this game keeps getting comprehensively beaten around the head by the assholes who are backing it. Soon my desire to see it burn will be the only thing left.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Chalks posted:

People have mentioned that departures are expected after the "holidays". Is this real and are we talking January?

Chris and Sandi give themselves a bonus every Christmas. Funds are low, so they have to let some people go.


A concept art sale is planned, and will hopefully fleece nerds generate some extra income.

Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!
I wouldn't be suprised if they're rushing to get the PU in a stable state before slashing head count. If the PU is still crashing repeatedly 4 months later, they'll basically only have Wulge/Karl defending them .

no_recall
Aug 17, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Chris and Sandi give themselves a bonus every Christmas. Funds are low, so they have to let some people go.


A concept art sale is planned, and will hopefully fleece nerds generate some extra income.

New yacht vs a bunch of programmers.

Choose.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

no_recall posted:

New yacht vs a bunch of programmers.

Choose.

Yacht, because Chris likes to go phishing

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
Hey, Monaco for an aging, talentless actress during the Grand Prix ain't cheap.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

McGiggins posted:

What would goons do if they had a mocap studio or four of their very own?

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



we did it m8s o7



see you in the 'verse

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator
:bravo: isn't supposed to be a sincere applause, I've long thought.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


toanoradian posted:

:bravo: isn't supposed to be a sincere applause, I've long thought.

you're thinking of :downsbravo:

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator
oh then :downsbravo: to me

ether
May 20, 2001

Chin posted:

Here's the best video of exciting multicrew 2.0 action I could find:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWn3E3ya_M

CIG designers sat down and figured out how to make a screen full of shield controls even less fun by having you stare helplessly at SYSTEM UNAVAILABLE half the time.
I'm the slightly off-center shipmodel in the shield display

Really, why the gently caress doesn't a LEAD CHIEF UI ENGINEER GURU not see that poo poo? 'It's an alpha' is not an acceptable excuse because it doesn't look like placeholder content at all.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Justin Tyme posted:

you're thinking of :downsbravo:

I dunno the bravo emote strikes me as pretty sarcastic.

Iglocska
Nov 23, 2015

ether posted:

I'm the slightly off-center shipmodel in the shield display

Really, why the gently caress doesn't a LEAD CHIEF UI ENGINEER GURU not see that poo poo? 'It's an alpha' is not an acceptable excuse because it doesn't look like placeholder content at all.

Slightly?

ether
May 20, 2001

Iglocska posted:

Slightly?

Could also have gone with 'I'm the 45 degrees turned shield display', a visualization that has front-shields in the top-left, and aft-shields in the bottom-right is really bad for snap judgements where to divert energy to shields. If they manage to make a fun mini-game of balancing shields this HUD is actively trying to work against you.

As with a lot of things about Star Citizen it looks polished if you only take a quick glance. We call that 'Hollywood' at our company, lifted straight from the old westerns where towns usually just a bunch of facades. We make things like that for demo's and tradeshows where people have no time to actually see it's far from done or actually functioning, it's sole function is suggesting we have something. Diffirence is that we actually do implement it eventually. The term however seems extra relevant for CiG though.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Chalks posted:

People have mentioned that departures are expected after the "holidays". Is this real and are we talking January?

The part of me that wants some sort of success for this game keeps getting comprehensively beaten around the head by the assholes who are backing it. Soon my desire to see it burn will be the only thing left.

CIG normally closes for two weeks over Christmas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zQwHfszgLc&t=442s

Above video shows them moving to the new Austin office in mid December 2013. If the Austin office is downsizing and moving as rumoured, this would be the mostly likely time for it to happen, especially if they had a yearly lease.

CIG filmed something like 16 separate pieces of content at the Austin office recently, that content could easily be used to obscure the Austin move. Don't want tricky questions about Derek Smart predicting something that turned out to be true. Also if no attempt is going to be made to even pretend that Austin is a major studio internally anymore, this would be a good time to leave, if they hadn't already decided to redeploy your job to Manchester/Hollywood/Frankfurt.

EightAce
May 10, 2015

Watch it all come crashing down on his head and wonder why any of us gave him money in the first place.

Renegret posted:

I tried watching the Wing Commander movie last week because I heard it was awful but I wanted to experience it for myself.

It was real bad.

Now imagine that pile of poo poo and add even worse dialogue .......... Now add some really creepy uncanny valley A list actors that sound as if they are struggling to offload a serious log whilst reading that same terrible dialogue off an idiot board.
Now consider 10 hours of this !! interspersed with brief and buggy as gently caress dogfights.

Welcome to Squadron 42

Ahh Yes
Nov 16, 2004
>_>
Just been watching a Citizen stream the VERSE, and it's loving infuriating.

Holy loving poo poo, I've never seen a game look so nice and crash so much.
I feel sorry for the poor bastard trying to make a living streaming Star Citizen, god drat.
Chris Roberts needs to fix this poo poo, given people have paid money to crash or to fail to login or given "servers full" errors. Or maybe (just maybe) if the game works getting teleported and then killed. And probably loving crashing again.

Do the backers have the patience for this? Cause just watching what it's like was pretty loving bad.
lol.

:bravo:

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Dante80 posted:

First of all, this is a cool video (if you disregard the incredibly frustrating shaking).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5UrT1EhWE

Secondly...how big is that moon over there?

Why the hell is the POV shaking like that

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

:bravo: is normally sarcastic but since dsmart uses it sincerely you just have to adjust your reactions when you see him use it

you use :downsbravo: when you're not even going to bother with a thin veneer of irony





to be honest you don't see either used all that often these days

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

AP posted:

5 days in November left. Assume 300k per day remaining, they'll likely do better but I do see possible early signs of internal morale failing, so very possible they don't have a nice video of the phoenix to show on Around the Verse and therefore gently caress this day's sale up.

November 2013 $7,880,937
November 2014 $6,123,928
November 2015 $4,400,000 (estimated)

A better result of 400k a day and giving an extra sale day would still see them below 5 million in November 2015, ~1 month after showing SQ42, social module &, AC 2.0. Funding is drying up and it's a long time on 1-2 million per month until they try to force something out the door in May 2016.

They'll break 5 million raised in November today, so did better over the weekend than I thought, they did keep refilling the 10,000 $30 game packages though. They did add an extra sale day as expected, still might "forget" to turn the sale off for a couple of days in December.



Phoenix countdown tracker appears to be broken, possible they'll say they sold out as "sale went far better than expected".

Should end the day a few hundred thousand short of 100 million, so they might do a flash sale or something stupid just to break it today, last day of sale so it's just possible they'll break 100 million anyway.

AP fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Nov 30, 2015

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

Dante80 posted:

First of all, this is a cool video (if you disregard the incredibly frustrating shaking).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU5UrT1EhWE

Secondly...how big is that moon over there?

I like how there's some station nearby casting a shadow over the moon, but nothing from the asteroids.

Also the complete lack of collision detection for 90% of the asteroids.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

That is one expensive USB stick!


Also, is the cockpit supposed to be where the glass(?) is? Is the ship supposed to fly vertically?

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King of Cheeses
Jul 25, 2007
Crusty on the outside, smooth and creamy on the inside.

You can turn this post completely on its head. I'd argue the people closer to the development seeing the slow progress are those least objective, while others from outside are coming along and saying "After 3 years ... this!???".

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