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A Citizen posted:goons are from SomethingAwful.com forums. they've been around for like a decade at least. They have quite the reputation around the internet. depending who you ask they're either a sociopathic bunch of griefers or they're cool legit gamers who use "meta tactics" in games. you can visit their forums and get the general tone. They're constantly trolling and defend everything they do by just saying they're kidding around and shouldn't be taken seriously. Then they demand to be taken seriously - really, they're kind of like "bad dogs" that love whatever attention they get, good, bad, doesn't matter. they'll piss on your floor just to hear you scream because they don't care about the difference between positive and negative reactions. to them it's just the attention they care about. No room for the sociopathic legit gamer, I see.
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Truga posted:That's not what you said earlier. Yes. VR takes time to make it work right, because you need to have the backend to handle all the head movements. Lack of those things makes people sick. Huh? Motion sickness mostly comes from movements not matching visual input. You don't cure motion sickness with code. Truga posted:But no, FPS games work just fine in VR. In fact, they're much easier to play in VR, because aiming with your head is much more intuitive than aiming with your mouse, and your head is already really loving good at aiming, better than a mouse unless you're a veteran FPS player. Okay, which VR games are you playing where you're aiming with your head? I use head-tracking all the time for sims, including arma 3, and it's not nearly as useful as you might think, requiring that the 'look' and the 'aim' are separate. Even the lookdown system on the KA-50 usually prompts a pause in tracking. Also, forgot to thank you for letting me know that the 'suit' was a 'class action'. That makes it even funnier. Hav fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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hanales posted:Looks like typical LA industrial/warehouse space. Probably cheaper than what they had before. Next to a railroad. Definitely cheaper, but well placed for 'rent a wreck' and a couple of bodyshops.
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Dec 9, 2015 21:28
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neonbregna posted:Ands it all hard disks what a fuckin pleb EVO SSD. C'mon man, don't kick a kid when he's down. He bought XFX PSU and Corsair memory.
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Dec 9, 2015 21:48
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starkebn posted:What are you going to do in this 'game' when it's finished? Throw it on the pile of digital cruft I have taking up digital space.
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Dec 10, 2015 18:38
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xanif posted:What are you talking about? B-17s ran tons of missions in WW2 without fighter escort and it totally wasn't a loving horrid idea. If you read your link, deep missions usually ended up with high casualties until they ran with a fighter escort; "Such high losses of air crews could not be sustained, and the USAAF, recognizing the vulnerability of heavy bombers to interceptors when operating alone, suspended daylight bomber raids deep into Germany until the development of an escort fighter that could protect the bombers all the way from the United Kingdom to Germany and back." Really dumb arguments in a space game, though.
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Dec 10, 2015 20:15
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xanif posted:I read my link. I thought my sarcasm was effectively conveyed by the description of "loving horrid idea." I'm hopped up on flu medicine, and I missed the sarcasm. I apologize. Glad I deleted the potted history of bomber command. I'm gonna go lie down.
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Dec 10, 2015 20:30
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D_Smart posted:By your asinine reasoning, every restaurant on Yelp would be suing people posting bad reviews which cause other people to not visit. Oh wait! That's right, some have actually tried that. Cases tossed. Damages awarded. SLAPP - 'Strategic Lawsuit against public participation' - generally to stop people bringing suits to 'chill' conversation. Dietz vs Parry, Fairfax County, Virginia. Sued for defamation over a yelp review and prevailed. You don't get shielded from libel and slander for anything, and it's certainly a lot more common than you make out. Generally lawyers will advise against defamation suits over the internet because they're uncertain to produce the results, and can lead to a blowback from the perception that someone larger is attacking someone smaller, or 'SLAPP'. Yelp itself sponsored the Speak Free Act (H.R. 2304: Securing Participation, Engagement, and Knowledge Freedom by Reducing Egregious Efforts Act of 201) to try and shield yelpers from defamation lawsuits, but it's unlikely to pass.
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Dec 11, 2015 16:07
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:You do realize that every time you post about how you "predicted" something and then link back to the same content it makes you look less credible, right? Repeating the same thing over and over again, especially when there's no visible evidence of you following up on all of those threats, does nothing but expose you to ridicule. After four months, I don't think this lawsuit is coming out.
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Dec 13, 2015 18:23
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D_Smart posted:I just want to know where the money went and because I have a feeling that if/when this all collapses, someone is likely to end up in jail. Why is this important?
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Dec 13, 2015 21:16
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D_Smart posted:All of the above ended up being exactly as I said it would. Not sure which ones you missed. When is the complaint being filed, and which jurisdiction, TIA.
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Dec 13, 2015 22:01
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Madcosby posted:So I did read your post and just made a joke, but I did it because you have a serious problem deflecting the conversation to an easier argument to avoid being in the wrong. But you've already made up your mind he is wrong, making arguing with you a fruitless and pointless activity. Stop reading his poo poo if it triggers you, but allow him his loving opinion. You're not loving cross-examining the guy.
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Dec 14, 2015 18:27
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trucutru posted:Which is like two dozen words that say absolutely nothing. Much like your posting.
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Dec 14, 2015 19:25
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Berious posted:The gateway drug I'd pay $7 for that ship.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:04
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Romes128 posted:I'm still amazed that more places don't report on the disgusting community behind star citizen as well as the "game" itself. After four pages of fat-shaming someone with an obvious glandular condition, this seems ironic. "I also get why some fans want to defend something they now personally have a stake in, but the aura the Star Citizen community is giving off at this point is more than a little intense. I was cautioned by colleagues about even writing this article, where I’m not specifically accusing Roberts or his team of anything, yet publishing anything remotely negative about Star Citizen seems to be an invitation to have dozens of comments posted questioning your morals and credentials." He must be new to the internet. Or games. Or cults. cl_gibcount 9999 posted:if a project needs money, it will have to use normal investor channels. if you want to help projects become reality, you will have to become an actual investor. Yes. Money is always a great indicator of wisdom. Vote Trump!
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Shadowlyger posted:So XCX has occupied a lot of time for the past few days, what all has gone down in this thread over the last... uhh... fifty pages or so? What new and interesting ways has the pre-alpha managed to implode upon itself? Anything funny/interesting out of Derek? Ben Lesnick is fat Derek is taking this personally/impersonally Forbes and a couple of other 'print' publications are taking an interest Two weeks
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mike12345 posted:it's a great mechanic if you're an advertiser, and want to hijack a thread. There's an algorithm that looks for sharp changes in up/down votes. It's gamed by moderators at certain levels, but you can go after people. We got PGI into poo poo when they started to whitewash their MMO elevator pitch. Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Reddit is incredibly poo poo. It would be one thing if number of votes, whether up- or downvotes, would change the order of displayed posts. But this poo poo of actually hiding unpopular opinions is killing any reasonable potential the platform might have had. Check 'Controversial' before 'hot'. High numbers of up AND down votes. 'new' is just anything 'new', 'rising' is a small number of upvotes in a small time...Also change your setting to not hide things below a certain threshold. gently caress it's like you kids never Slashdotted.
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Dec 16, 2015 16:01
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D_Smart posted:For those of you who keep asking about lawsuits etc, even after I had made a post about a key element (arbitration clause) in their ToS which is patently difficult to get around, thus zero chances of a class action suit... So there isn't a class action? The plot thickens.
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Dec 17, 2015 22:05
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mashed_penguin posted:Well then what did they specifically show in the stream the other day that they didn't actually do and instead was smoke and mirrors? They showed terrain generation of a barren rocky world flying around in the editor from space all the way down to the surface. They showed flying a ship from space to their landing pad. They said there wasn't any flight physics. It looked like there was no gravity. The game portion. Edit: Fired it up, walked over to my ship, hit the 'use' key, and tried to enter. After some jumping, the jittering stopped and I was kind wedged halfway in....oh, I have to 'use' the ladder rather than walk in? GOTY.
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Decrepus posted:You obviously never read the lore. Some of it's not canon, and it's difficult to know what is.
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Omi-Polari posted:I think Derek's burned out on the blogging. A light that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and Derek has burned so very very brightly. But there's marketing to be done. Games to sell.
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Ravane posted:Finally time to use my star citizen refund to go watch star wars! The wookie did it.
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D_Smart posted:Being familiar doesn't mean you know more than someone (that would be me) who has written multiplayer games and entire network stacks. What's a 'guaranteed send' flag, Derek?
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MeLKoR posted:If you don't know DS well enough by now to realize this is the closest you'll ever extract from him in lieu of a retraction I don't know what to tell you other than I hope you're sitting comfortably while you wait. Hardly a retraction if you shop it round and nobody wants to touch the poop. SwissArmyDruid posted:This is incredibly bad for consumer rights in general, not just imaginary spaceships, but I imagine this is how Derek had the basis? Standing? Ability? I don't know the exact legalese word that needs to be used here, but California law would have permitted the class-action lawsuit to go forward. The problem is that if you're actually shopping this around to partners on the usual 30-45% cut on the projected damages, it has to be large enough in scale to account for the time taken to even get the thing in front of a judge, which is why everyone and his dog is adding forced arbitration to their terms of service; It's more a chilling effect than a hard and fast rule, and something that Congress is looking into - But you know the speed those guys work at. The other thing to consider is that DirectTV actually supplied service before charging the fees, and their terms of service already contained the forced arbitration clause. Tippis posted:As in the physical plug is unreliable/falls out or as in the driver layer flakes out? On mine the physical PS2 socket is a tad wobbly and the plug isn't the most secure, but you'd imagine the guy creating the BDSSE would know his way around a joystick, no? Crash74 posted:LOL they just say that to cover their back if they're wrong. Goons have swallowed Derek's salty load and can't now think for themselves. The closest I got to Smart's salty load was buying battlecruiser when it was first released. All I see is two huge narcissists having a proxy war.
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Omi-Polari posted:He is Manley. But sadly his smoky Scottish accent doesn't come through in his posts. I imagine them in his velvety voice. It's like being buffed with rabbits.
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illectro posted:If X-Rebirth had followed the Early Access model it would have been praised, the game has improved significantly since the original release. It's certainly not X-4 but it's got more gameplay in it than Star Citizen right now. People might believe you and may buy it. Do you really want that on you this close to Christmas? Think of the children.
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Sarsapariller posted:The actions of the moderators lately really lead me to believe that they know full well this is a complete scam and there is some major doublethink going on in their defense of it. It's reminding me a lot of an essay I read once on "Belief in Belief" The book that is from is 'demon haunted world', and was the last thing that Sagan wrote. It's also a goddamned bullshit detector bible, so I utterly recommend it to everyone. Seriously, if you read one book, make it that one. edit: Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The head of marketing, the person who orchestrated the most successful crowd funding effort in the world by getting people to buy JPEGs, has the call sign of "Pusher". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCDAfa-NI-M Hav fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So what he's saying is that CryEngine has no problem with having the network update pockets of activity as opposed to the entire global zone? In other words in 2004 it would have been doable to have the network update the space around Port Olisar while not wasting bandwidth talking about what's going on at a comm buoy, which according to CR is the problem right now? Yeah, and even better, people were deploying their own implementations of this as well as using the engines. In around 2004, Eve was tracking every 'item' in local rather than 'on grid', which led to reducing the upper limit on launched drones, and making missiles abstract rather than an actual travelling object because of the sheer bandwidth needed for position updates. A few years later they had to take another crack at speed calibrations, because it was possible to fit an interceptor to hit 16km/s and that started to degrade precision in the engine and specifically grid updates. Scale is nothing to sneeze at, but it's something that constantly crops up as a 'surprise', particularly with people that don't model the worst case scenarios. ^^^ Edit: Yeah, they're tracking people and the ships separately for positional updates, which is why people and their ships can glitch apart; missed update packets and nothing to associate the ship to the pilot. Multicrew will scale that, but imagine if they're also tracking objects in the ships. Eve gets mentioned in here a lot, generally not because it's great, but because they've run into a lot of these issues and both fixed and avoided them. I think the best example of the above was when 'shuttle spam' was a thing. Hav fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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spacetoaster posted:Nobody is taking two weeks off. It's a 24 hour grind through the holy days. Cheer is mandatory, and sufficient Jolliness shall be expressed spontaneously.
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Bait and Swatch posted:How do you know she hasn't been here this whole time?!  I accuse you, 'Bait and Swatch'. It's the perfect disguise.Or Peter Gabriel.
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Daztek posted:Chris Roberts has given us the BDSSE, what are you getting us for Christmas, Mr Smart?  JPEG of a lawsuit Edit: Jobbo_Fett posted:You will regret challenging the box It's not the box, just the inedible poo poo inside it. I'd happily chow down on the cardboard rather than eat Pizza Hut.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:
Start asking when they expect completion of anything. The constant shifting of the start point to indicate 'development' is as dumb as constantly gainsaying the same thing over and over. It's like numbering an _alpha_ with 2.0 to indicate to the dumbasses that there's been progress since 1.0. It was stupid when it was applied to the Web by marketers and it's stupid now. D_Smart posted:Plus it's highly unlikely that Microsoft would license them to a third-party, since they simply don't do that. They tend to build their own IP. And once they bury it, that's it - that IP stays buried. Unless they can sell it (e.g. they sold Loose Canon to Ubi; but that was back when they were trying to mitigate the damages from croberts disastrous Digital Anvil fiasco). Almost immediately you mention Piranha, however. Mechwarrior franchise? Currently in a licensing deal with PGI and sublicensed through Harebrained Schemes? ShadowRun? Microsoft will do pretty much anything for a quick buck at the moment as their cash cows are threatened. D_Smart posted:Wing Commander, is out of the question. I won't touch that. Because i) see above ii) though EA would gladly license it, my guess is that after the Star Citizen fiasco, they'd probably wait and see how that fiasco ends first. Note that Piranha had the license for six years and didn't do anything with it. No, they didn't. EA pretty much said so when they claimed to have the license when PGI attempted to launch Transverse. There was talk of a licensing 'deal', but it never panned out, this was one of the central pieces to criticism of 'Transverse', that they claimed to have the IP, but decided to build something entirely the same from whole cloth. Look for statements from Russ Bullock that correct Bryan Eckman. EA retains the rights to Wing Commander.
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Beet Wagon posted:Wait, D_Smart thinks PGI had the Wing Commander license? They claimed to have it when they shat out their Transverse pitch. EA said 'lol no'. ShredsYouSay posted:Also buy the rights to freespace then give it back to volition. And get a position there as executive producer. Why the hate for the Freespace franchise?
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serious norman posted:Alpha. Yeah, seriously people, leave it the gently caress alone until post-pre-beta 4.0. You don't understand game development AT ALL.
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Cactus posted:Other than the Escapist, has this debacle been discussed on any of the big podcasts in the last couple months or so? I'm not caught up with either of the bombcasts or C&Crowbar but have they or anyone else mentioned this at all recently? It keeps getting brought up as an interesting financial story in various places, and that'll snowball more as people inevitably wonder what's happening with that story about that game, but at the moment it's a minor spat between a couple of video game producers. Fried Watermelon posted:Priceless: The Myth of Fair Value by William Poundstone This. ^^^^
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SirPhoebos posted:Not to mention the possibility that Crowdfunding gets destroyed either by public aversion and/or onerous regulation. Like the mortgage industry.
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Mirificus posted:
It's the Illuminati, killing PC Gaming forever. Smart is a Reptilian plant, who, along with the Royal family is promoting the PS4 and handheld 'gaming' by destroying the PC industry, and it's plucky freethinkers who dare to dream that are marginalized for staring at the neighbour kids and saving their urine for the day when they come for your guns and HOTAS. Witness me if I go missing, Games. D_Smart posted:e. It was the Freespace license that PGI had for 6 months. Not Wing Commander - which they also had for a period time (didn't say how long - but it's online apparently). He walked away from the WC in order to focus on MWO instead after they put a lot of money into buying out their publisher. As far as I'm aware, that went Volition -> THQ -> Interplay for the Freespace license. Less than $10K to hit Interplay too. Russ didn't 'walk away from wing commander' to work on MWO, they launched the crappiest crowdsource to suckle off the SC tit that put multiplayer at some ridiculous level like half a million bucks, then attempted to whitewash the thing through Reddit by censoring dissent. They finally pulled the campaign after raising a pittance and realizing that the only thing they had left was MWO, which got their community guy Niko, canned. https://www.themittani.com/news/pgi-aborts-transverse-crowdfunding-campaign Transverse was the most hilarious bullshit pulled so far in crowdfunding, and one of the most embarrassing defeats. https://www.themittani.com/media/pgi-announces-space-mmo-transverse edit: Rule one of politics, don't accept the premise of anything you don't like... Crobbles posted:He calls me a liar, a fraud, incompetent and many other names. He has slandered my family members and business partners. He has publically doxed me, sharing the address of my home in LA, pictures of my wife and five year old daughter. He constantly attacks Sandi Gardiner, accusing her of having no qualifications, or experience, that she had other people do her work for her and only has the Marketing position because she is my wife. That is incredibly ironic considering we are the most crowd funded project in history, that she wrote the marketing plan, and single handedly executed it when we were a tiny team – even today she’s the only dedicated marketing person at the company, for a game that has raised almost $90M for its development solely through viral marketing, word of mouth and PR. ...and stop repeating the allegations, Christ. Your loving qualified PR department should be tugging on your dick to make your stop, let alone the Very Important Lawyer that threatened Derek's friends with his Bigger Friends. Hav fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Robo Reagan posted:can i run star citizen.exe and play a game yet or not Why, what have you heard?
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IrvingWashington posted:You got in just before my goodwill to all timer expires I just wanted to let you all know that you're special.
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