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Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Death By The Blues posted:

The more the Knicks lose, the happier Raptor fan's get and looks like they are heading into a tough stretch post all-star break. How has Ivan Rabb, Ellenson, and Brice Johnson looked? Any chance they could fall into the 10-14th spot?

I think it might be a good idea to wait until after the trade deadline to think about where the Raptors might be picking.

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Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
What is the tier breakdown in this draft? There's 1/2, then there seems to be a grouping at around... 3-6? But how does it break down from thereon. And I gather that the draft is supposed to be weak in the 3-10ish range, but how does it fare after that?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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MourningView posted:

They're drafting way too high to take Sabonis

Famous last words.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
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How will the NBA determine draft order/lottery odds for the Denver, Milwaukee, Sacramento tie? Coin flip?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Thanks. This makes it sound like the Toronto/Denver/NYK pick swap happens now. I thought that didn't happen until after the lottery.

e: Right on cue, Ford publishes this. So yeah, probably 8-10 for Toronto, with something like a 1% chance of picking in the top 3.

Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 14, 2016

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Gobias Ind. posted:

Can't see this because I don't have Insider - my understanding is that pick swaps will happen after the lottery, so the only way that the Raps end up with a top 3 pick is if BOTH the Knicks pick and the Nuggets get drawn in the lottery. Is that right?

So I guess the Raptors could theoretically end up with 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, or 13 based on the whims of a bunch of ping pong balls and quarters. (I think?)

Yeah. So the NYK pick is 15% to make top 3, the Denver pick is 6.9% to hit top 3, and both of those have to 'hit' for Toronto to pick 2nd or 3rd.

e: I think Toronto can't pick 7th, since the NYK pick is currently in the 7th slot and they would only get that if the Denver pick moved up, which would push the NYK pick back to 8th.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
When Chad Ford puts together his mock drafts, does he usually have sources for which teams are likely to make which picks, or is he doing the whole guessing thing himself? I ask because it seems like he's had Marquese Chriss to the Raptors for months now.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Dejan Bimble posted:

He does have sources, but they're an aggregate. Other gm's think they're going to do x and x makes sense, so they hit Chriss in the mock. Other picks are purely informed guesswork. And if they're wrong, Chad will change them in a couple years.

Alright, that's good, because I've decided that I really want the Raptors to draft Jaylen Brown since in the mush of people available at that area he at least seems cool.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Ty1990 posted:

Lottery tomorrow. If it's rigged, then the NBA better throw Philly a bone and give them #1 because ownership has done every loving thing the NBA has asked of them.

I am cheering for the less than a percentage point chance of Toronto picking in the top 3, and I think you should be too because that would be hilarious.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
The ESPN mock had Marquese Chriss to the Raptors forever but now it looks like he's gonna go higher, so which 4s are gonna be there at 9? Are they gonna be reaching for Skal/Sabonis?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Where are people watching?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
smdh at these fools who don't know what a chess captain does

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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I wonder if this changes anything for Toronto or if the top 8 remain the same and the Raptors still end up with Skal or Lil Sabonis?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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zapplez posted:

Holy gently caress. Raptors trade up and get Chriss

I'd rather they didn't.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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incompetent posted:

he plays chess while everyone else plays checkers

Which is why he picked Brown — a friend to play with.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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So should I want the Kings to take Chriss or the Kings to go off board and let Chriss fall to Toronto? I get that Chriss was hilariously bad at 4, but the standards are lower at 9.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Declan MacManus posted:

How do you feel about a cross between Tyrus Thomas and Chandler Frye

I don't remember Tyrus Thomas at all

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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huh

https://twitter.com/espnsteinline/status/746136195260948480

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Well then

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Jamal Murray is super obviously from not-Toronto Ontario

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Dejan Bimble posted:

Whoa Jamal has a hockey player's voice

Hand Knit posted:

Jamal Murray is super obviously from not-Toronto Ontario

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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It's cool that the Raptors got the pick after the first draft stupidness sorted itself out but before the second draft stupidness kicked off.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Dejan Bimble posted:

Jakob Poeltl is good insurance for Valanciunas I guess. He could be good, it seems like it's very difficult to predict which physically large centers will become good NBA defenders

Raptors need Valanciunas insurance? I guess the Raptors have him as comfortably the BPA and are happy having him back up for a year or two?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Dejan Bimble posted:

Well he's gotten hurt a lot and they'll probably lose Biyombo, so they need a back up who might be starter caliber

Fair enough. Does that mean he's a LeBron stopper like Biyombo?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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MourningView posted:

Here's hoping Jakob is good enough that I eventually remember how to spell his last name

Poeltl the Toeltl

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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hmm are the Thunder sure they wouldn't rather have Jakob Poeltl?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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Yorhyos Papayannis

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
The hard 'j' in gyros is killing me. It is causing me extreme physical pain.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

AggressivelyStupid posted:

IM SORRY DID HE JUST SAY J-EYE - ROWS ?????

He did and I want to riot.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

MourningView posted:

Ellenson falling amuses me

Raptors gonna get the guy they were mocked to take at 9 at 27

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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MourningView posted:

Sounds like Detroit might take him

What selfish jerks.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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euphronius posted:

Is skal still on the board lol.

Raptors gonna get him at 27

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
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pseudodragon posted:

So the Raps will get a chance at Skal and/or Davis, both of whom I would have been ok with at 9 at 27...should I be happy or worried there's a reason they fell that far?

Be happy no matter the reason. This is the draft, a time for hope and optimism.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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straight up brolic posted:

If you think Masai can resist a random guy...

The Bruno Caboclo pick might be the greatest draft moment of the 21st Century.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Masai done it again

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Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

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Guess it's safe to say that the Raptors weren't actually that close to taking Skal at 9.

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