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Hello death thread. Keep me strong I really want to paint a marine and the Horus Heresy box makes some sort of sense to my broken mind- I've always wanted a cool forge world army and $150 to get the whole core actually seems like a deal 
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Hello death thread. Keep me strong I really want to paint a marine and the Horus Heresy box makes some sort of sense to my broken mind- I've always wanted a cool forge world army and $150 to get the whole core actually seems like a deal Wait to get that poo poo used or something if you really need to paint boring rear end marines. FrostyPox posted:This is regarding the (admittedly very cool-looking) new BA Chaplain and the IG tank commander models. Isn't this new russ an old one packed with a tech priest that you can't get any other way? Also that chaplain looks dumb.
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Nov 11, 2015 23:23
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$210 and no Ankylosaurus what the poo poo GW?
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Nov 11, 2015 23:29
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:If you can find it I'll be more than happy to add it. I can't find it so let's try it the old fashioned way: Broken Loose, Broken Loose, Broken Loose
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Nov 11, 2015 23:58
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Hello death thread, you complete me. But I have a confession, I ordered a Calth box. I did the hateful thing and gave GW money. Forgive me. TKIY fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Nov 12, 2015 00:21
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Holy poo poo you save 50 dollars! ...Holy poo poo, you save 50 dollars.
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Nov 12, 2015 00:36
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paradoxGentleman posted:So when exactly did the infamous "imaginary horse" rules got published? I wanna Read the Warhammer thread at ground zero and I need to know how much must I skip ahead. When the AoS rules hit and when the Warscrolls hit, second one is when we saw the 'fun' rules for the first time.
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Nov 12, 2015 01:14
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FrostyPox posted:This is regarding the (admittedly very cool-looking) new BA Chaplain and the IG tank commander models. Games Workshop is real and he's my friend.
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Nov 12, 2015 01:16
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 WTF!? Now they're just trolling me.
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Nov 12, 2015 01:18
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Hello death thread. Keep me strong I really want to paint a marine and the Horus Heresy box makes some sort of sense to my broken mind- I've always wanted a cool forge world army and $150 to get the whole core actually seems like a deal Do Not Give GW Money. Also, $150 buys you a wide selection of X-wings, an MSRP Waramahordes full army box, an entire Infinity army, a very nice bottle of something, or a meal at a fancy restaurant for you and your significant other or your grandma or whoever. All of those are much better purchases than a couple of models for a bad game.
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Nov 12, 2015 01:28
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Or literally like an entire 1500pt company from PSC.  EDIT: Twice.
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Nov 12, 2015 01:38
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If you drop £150 on the Dropfleet Commander kickstarter you can get: * Two player start set with UCM and Scourge starter fleets, rulebook, terrain, dice, etc * Two other starter fleets of your choice (Go for PHR and Shaltari) * All of the free cruiser/frigate unlocks so far * Tons of other random stretch goal stuff You could get the boxed game and starter fleets for all of the factions.. ...or you could get one and a half poo poo board games full of space marines from GW.
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Nov 12, 2015 02:03
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Chill la Chill posted:
They know you want that Ankylosaurus. Or you can just buy $951 worth of round-base Also the green-and-purple color scheme the Carnosaur has reminds me of Barney.  
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Nov 12, 2015 02:16
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Correction I made an egregious mistake. You could get 1850 points of Germans for £60. So that'd be two and a half armies. Big ones (pointswise, I mean it's germany they get gently caress all in terms of numbers).
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Nov 12, 2015 02:22
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150 bux is a full Bolt Action platoon, rules, and forces book, and order dice
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Nov 12, 2015 02:26
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How quick does Bolt Action play? I'm thinking of picking it up, but I can't get my friends to commit to much more than an hour or two of playtime at a go.
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Nov 12, 2015 02:42
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grassy gnoll posted:How quick does Bolt Action play? I'm thinking of picking it up, but I can't get my friends to commit to much more than an hour or two of playtime at a go. Seemed quick while it was going on next to FoW. It's a relatively rules-light platoon game, so I can't imagine it's a slog.
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Nov 12, 2015 02:44
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Well, I'm pledged at the 3 battle group level for Warpath, I have an eBay firesaled Warriors of Chaos army I play 7e with my friends with and my painting project is currently a pair of 6mm western theater ACW armies-- there's tons of "the hobby" available to me, the problem is that HH is a particular romantic itch for my childhood, when I spent hours f5ing forge world and looking at models I couldn't afford. The problem is how irrational it is, and I think it's something a lot of the death thread kind of has a problem with- nostalgia is a hell of a drug, and despite how cost inefficient it is compared to actual, better games, a really big part of me just wants some cool cataphractii terminators and a contemptor.
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Nov 12, 2015 02:56
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Well, I'm pledged at the 3 battle group level for Warpath, I have an eBay firesaled Warriors of Chaos army I play 7e with my friends with and my painting project is currently a pair of 6mm western theater ACW armies-- there's tons of "the hobby" available to me, the problem is that HH is a particular romantic itch for my childhood, when I spent hours f5ing forge world and looking at models I couldn't afford. The problem is how irrational it is, and I think it's something a lot of the death thread kind of has a problem with- nostalgia is a hell of a drug, and despite how cost inefficient it is compared to actual, better games, a really big part of me just wants some cool cataphractii terminators and a contemptor.  Also, how long has Forge World been around in its current incarnation? My understanding was that it's a single-digit number of years. How young are you that it was in your "childhood" is what I'm trying to ask
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Nov 12, 2015 03:00
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JerryLee posted:
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Nov 12, 2015 03:02
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Safety Factor posted:Forge World's been around for a long time by now. I just checked and the first Imperial Armor came out in 2000. Well, obviously my understanding was way wrong then. 
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Nov 12, 2015 03:04
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JerryLee posted:
I'm 28, so I guess I was more a teen than a child. is likely in my future.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:07
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I'm hearing that GW stores all across Australia are posting on their Facebooks that GW is creating a new "Specialist" games studio to continue development of LotR and bring back BFG, Bloodbowl, Necromunda, and Epic  This can't be true because this is a Really Good Idea and Games Workshop is only capable of Really Bad Ideas. If it IS true, then surely it won't be executed competently. Also if it weren't more obvious that Age of Sigmar is a flop and GW is in full-panic mode, well..... EDIT: I just checked a couple of random Aussie GW facebooks and I see nothing of the sort. EDIT EDIT: https://www.facebook.com/GWBelconnen/timeline GW in Geelong(?) says something similar. FrostyPox fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Nov 12, 2015 04:53
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It'd be hilarious (and probably wise) for GW to just admit they can't come up with new, interesting IP and just continue to cash in on the poo poo they've made over the last 30 years. They could feasibly expect to make sales on all the old models they've made in that time if they actually write solid rulesets for them. Speaking of old models, I think I've still got a box of all-pewter 3rd Edition SM Terminators I should probably look to unload on someone like SRM who enjoys retro-Hammer models.
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Nov 12, 2015 05:02
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To be quite fair, I really enjoyed Battlefleet Gothic and Necromunda, and I heard good things about at least one or two editions of Epic. TBQH if they seriously commit to offering a diverse variety of games, I might, might be tempted to.... to.... give GW money I mean, in the interest of fairness I've always maintained that if GW ever did something smart, I would reward them for it by buying their poo poo. It's just that they haven't made a smart decision in at least 5 years, probably more.
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Nov 12, 2015 05:05
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I wish they still had the full anphelion terrain set still. I doubt even recasters would tackle that beast though. EDIT: Part of me wants to buy the Heresy game at the local GW store, take out all items, put the models back in the box, and toss the gaming pieces in the trash right in store. LordAba fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Nov 12, 2015 |
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Nov 12, 2015 05:12
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Oh yeah, I enjoyed BFG quite a bit but it kinda fell apart if you weren't playing Imperials Vs. Chaos. Forums goon selnaric and I did a BFG campaign that involved Orks vs. Eldar and it was a mess. Thank goodness Ilor and his Necrons never got involved in that.
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Nov 12, 2015 05:14
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I think (hope?) the ship has sailed far enough from port with people having tried offerings like Frostgrave, Infinity, etc. to scratch those itches, that in order to get back all those lapsed customers GW would have to compete on rules and price as well as nostalgia and setting.
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Nov 12, 2015 05:30
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JerryLee posted:I think (hope?) the ship has sailed far enough from port with people having tried offerings like Frostgrave, Infinity, etc. to scratch those itches, that in order to get back all those lapsed customers GW would have to compete on rules and price as well as nostalgia and setting. Yeah, it'd be great if they not just brought them back but made sure the rules were solid offerings. Though I'd still probably play an unchanged BFG for the sake of nostalgia.
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Nov 12, 2015 05:31
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I've played a bunch of the different Specialist Games over the years and BFG was by far my favorite. It had a couple of issues, but in terms of game-play it was really solid.
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Nov 12, 2015 06:42
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It does feel a bit too-little too-late, honestly. There are a lot of more mechanically satisfying/elegant games out there, with good model ranges. This year alone has seen what seems like an explosion of quality, smaller scale games across most of GW's specialist offerings. BFG was fun, but I'm not sure I'd want to give money to GW when I could play Armada. Or invest in the new Dropfleet Commander game. Mordheim was a classic, but the more streamlined Frostgrave scratches that itch pretty well, and there are no shortage of other similar systems. Malifaux released their own campaign rules this year as well. Osprey is going to be releasing what appears to be a Necromunda clone which hopefully will be up to the same level as Frostgrave. Specialist games were fun, but I can't help feeling their time has passed. Their death inspired a lot of other designers who have come out with some great games that are, in my opinion, much better. Just dusting off the old games and jacking up the price doesn't feel like a positive development.
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Nov 12, 2015 07:17
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I have heard that the Frostgrave campaign rules leave something to be desired and the wandering monsters are something of a barrier to entry. Mordheim was great because the scenery was actually pretty good for card buildings and the rules were pretty OK.
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Nov 12, 2015 07:26
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 Didn't one of the crazy CEO announcements proclaim how glad they were to be getting rid of LotR?
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Nov 12, 2015 07:55
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PyroDwarf posted:
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Nov 12, 2015 07:57
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Epic Armageddon is a legitimately good game. It's challenging, engaging, has a lot of depth, and (especially when you use the community-made army lists) genuinely fair and balanced. There are some rules quirks and problem areas here and there, the rules themselves need to be organized better, etc. but it's no worse than most normal and good tabletop wargames made by good companies that aren't GW. If GW brought back Epic but kept the rules as they stand now, or (somehow) found ways to improve them without making the game a stupid non-game for idiots and babies, that would be amazing. The warhammer 40k battlefield really is far better simulated at 6mm. I don't believe it, though. It'd take a really massive investment and it'd be really risky and GW just got severely burnt by taking a massive and expensive investment in AoS. I expect the company to either burn the place down by AoS-ing 40k, or, to get really conservative for a while and not make any big changes.
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Nov 12, 2015 07:59
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An ad that straight up says "dreams and rainbows" can't be real. But what I would give for a copy of Blood Bowl and Epic.
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Nov 12, 2015 08:08
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Yeah, I have a hard time believing it. I mean, a smart company would try to diversify their offerings a bit more than GW does, I'd think, especially if they want to remain the dominant player in all areas of tabletop wargaming instead of ceding sections of the market like they have (6mm/10mm mass battle games, space ship games,etc). But Games Workshop is not a smart company and, like PyroDwarf mentioned, the powers that be did sound like they couldn't wait to get rid of The Hobbit. In any event, I have to wonder why the GW store that posted that would do so if it wasn't official word from up high if he expects to keep his job. Then again, even if it is official, posting it would probably cost him his job, too, considering GW's secrecy policy. 
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Nov 12, 2015 08:13
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Though the games mentioned are the ones where there's a direct competing product on the market that they stand a good chance of crushing. Notice also that Mordheim is not mentioned as that would hint at the Old World and Warhammer Fantasy. It could be a prank or it could be real. I'm torn either way.
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Nov 12, 2015 08:19
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Ah the small ember of hope that renders the suffering afterwards all the more delicious.
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Vermintide looks cool, and I still want Total Warhammer. Does that still violate the "don't give money to GW" even if I'm not supporting, or care about, any of the tabletop games?
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