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ManlyGrunting posted:Seems like we're entering the end game, I'm guessing that the stuff Hijiri was telling us before (the diet building, the mannequin's leader having had a revelation etc) the other reasons are probably going to be following Isamu's lead pretty soon. Can't wait to see what atrocities Hiwaka and Chiaki make to get magasuhi. trust me, their atrocities will not be pleasant.
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Ironic that Isamu would manage to summon his god first. The Amala Temple themes are really, really great. Someone on youtube had links to download theme, but I can't find them now. The videos that are still up aren't entirely clean, unfortunately. It's too bad. For me, they're right up there with P1's Deva Yuga theme on the top of my list of best SMT music ever.
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So he's just going to leave the giant red glowing pool there? I suppose he's already taken most of the good stuff out of it.
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Good bye data-man, you will be missed. I want your hat now that you have no need for it anymore.
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Was anyone else raising an eyebrow at Aciel's entrance cutscene? The part where he makes some wounded animal-like roar and reveals a giant, gaping mouth full of moving teeth? I've played this game numerous times and always forget how loving creepy that scene is. On a side note, I can't recall Aciel actually being in another SMT game outside of IMAGINE. Or, at least, looking like he does here.
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It would explain Persona protags having the best friends; it's just the multiverse working the averages out.
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Gideon020 posted:Is it me, or do SMT Protags have the worst friends?
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GilliamYaeger posted:Strange Journey had absolute bros for the Neutral and Chaos Heroes, and the AI never lets you down. I'm still not sure the trade-off of having to go to Antarctica is worth it though...
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Digital Jello posted:On a side note, I can't recall Aciel actually being in another SMT game outside of IMAGINE. Or, at least, looking like he does here. He's in Strange Journey and SMTIV, he's even a boss battle in the latter.
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Digital Jello posted:Was anyone else raising an eyebrow at Aciel's entrance cutscene? The part where he makes some wounded animal-like roar and reveals a giant, gaping mouth full of moving teeth? I've played this game numerous times and always forget how loving creepy that scene is. Yeah, that stuck out a bit. Well done.
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SkinCrawling posted:He's in Strange Journey and SMTIV, he's even a boss battle in the latter. poo poo, you're right. I forgot all about Strange Journey.
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By the way - quote:Hijiri, (Japanese: “holy man”): in Japanese religion, a man of great personal magnetism and spiritual power, as distinct from a leader of an institutionalized religion. Historically, hijiri has been used to refer to sages of various traditions, such as the shaman, Shintō mountain ascetic, Taoist magician, or Buddhist reciter. Most characteristically hijiri describes the wandering priest who operates outside the orthodox Buddhist tradition to meet the religious needs of the common people.
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Yeah, it's quite a turn of events and all, but...I have the strangest feeling that this is not the last we'll see of dear old Hijiri. Looking forward to more as always.
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ModeWondershot posted:Yeah, it's quite a turn of events and all, but...I have the strangest feeling that this is not the last we'll see of dear old Hijiri. Looking forward to more as always. But he lost his hat, whereas Isamu still has his hat. Clearly, one of two Hatbearers has obtained dominance.
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Lunar Suite posted:But he lost his hat, whereas Isamu still has his hat. Clearly, one of two Hatbearers has obtained dominance. If he didn't want to lose his hat, he really should have put it on his head more than once in the last...entire game.
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ModeWondershot posted:Yeah, it's quite a turn of events and all, but...I have the strangest feeling that this is not the last we'll see of dear old Hijiri. Looking forward to more as always. I can't wait till we get to that kapala peephole conversation.
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 Hijiri, you were too good for this world and so had to be replaced by a... Giant, baby-like thing?I still can't get over how the Reason of "gently caress Other People  " is getting by via absorbing other people or, in this case, dissolving someone else in Magatsuhi. Almost like a world completely without other people won't work.
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DraconicImpulse posted:
It's more like a giant whale-mutant thingy really. Also, yes, I remember reading that it was acknowledged by someone that Isamu's reason is deeply mired in hypocrisy due to this very thing. He would never succeed without the help of others.
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Well, if I had to go, I probably wouldn't go with the weird transluscent abomination. So much for knowing everything, or whatever. Way to get owned by freaking Isamu, dude. Also, I just finished your SMT1 LP, which I hope scratched a years-long itch I've had to play it(to completion) myself. I usually get past Kongokai only to stall out at that point. After seeing the crap you had to go through, I don't think there's a chance I could go through it myself now. So thanks for curing me, doc! 
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Glazius posted:So he's just going to leave the giant red glowing pool there? If it's true that "all the Magatsuhi from the Amala Network comes from here", shutting down the Amala Temple might have some pretty bad effects on the Network, and all of Isamu's "supporters" are in there. That, or he's pretty sure he's already won. Digital Jello posted:Was anyone else raising an eyebrow at Aciel's entrance cutscene? The part where he makes some wounded animal-like roar and reveals a giant, gaping mouth full of moving teeth? I've played this game numerous times and always forget how loving creepy that scene is. Yeah, that made me start almost as much as when Mother Harlot showed her face. I know it's coming, but still, dang. And the wriggling teeth, oh boy. The three bosses of the Temple are maybe a little random and disconnected, but they have some real memorable designs. DraconicImpulse posted:
Noah being sort of vaguely fetal in appearance would suggest a lot about the fate of someone living in a Musubi situation; you don't really get to grow or change, so you stay in your own little womb-like bubble of comfort and that's it, that's all there is. Even what happens to Isamu once Noah is summoned seems to carry a sort of reverse birth symbolism; he floats upwards, curls up in a fetal position, and gets enclosed in an egg. And what had to happen moments before? Hijiri had to be transformed into a bunch of wriggly pellets with little tails. This also factors in the general fecundation imagery employed by the game, what with the Conception creating a giant sphere that then awaits a bunch of competitors to sort out who among them will be the one to make the new world. Maybe I'm looking a little too hard into this, but... Llab posted:Also, I just finished your SMT1 LP, which I hope scratched a years-long itch I've had to play it(to completion) myself. I usually get past Kongokai only to stall out at that point. After seeing the crap you had to go through, I don't think there's a chance I could go through it myself now. So thanks for curing me, doc! Ha, I'm glad to have been of service. I genuinely like SMT1 for a number of reasons, but it has aged extremely poorly and a lot of its mechanics are just kinda janky. Not a lot of RPGs back then or nowadays find a way to fit four random encounters into three steps.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:I wonder if at one point they thought to have Mara as a major character. It would have been amusing to see the faces of the players if that had been the case. Is that a Giant dick on a chariot?! 
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It probably wouldn't even matter all that much. Based off the other games in which the dick chariot is in, from what I've played, they just look at Mara like any other demon.
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I believe Persona 3 Portable does actually have a small reaction to Mara. If you enter the Velvet Room with it equipped, Elizabeth will chastise the MC for having such an uncouth Persona and Theodore will chastise the FeMC for having a Persona so unladylike. Aside from that? Nah, just another demon in the grand scheme of things.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:I wonder if at one point they thought to have Mara as a major character. I would love for it to be one of the Demonic Sponsors. "This is my Reason, backed up by a humongous cock on wheels.  "
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I would love for it to be one of the Demonic Sponsors. "This is my Reason, backed up by a humongous cock on wheels.  Isn't that what this guy is asking you to do?
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NullBlack posted:I'd imagine the Reason backed by a huge cock on wheels wouldn't be aimed at "improving" the world, but simply being a dick to everyone else who's trying. I guess you could call Lucifer in this game a humongous cock on wheels. But man, I dunno. I am eager to talk about his motivations -- when we get there, of course. But I mean, Yosuga wouldn't be a terrible match for Mara as a sponsor, given that it's essentially a who's-got-the-biggest-dick competition of a world anyway.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I would love for it to be one of the Demonic Sponsors. "This is my Reason, backed up by a humongous cock on wheels.  : In Mara we trust! One Punch, One Thrust, One World!I wonder if Nocturne was making any political statements regarding politics. Considering that each of the three reasons we could choose to align with (or not) really boils down to what feels like presidential campaigning before election day; I wonder if it had anything to say.
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If it is anything it would be commentary on Japanese society/politics. And thus probably impenetrable unless you know all the ins, outs and metaphors. But I doubt it, SMT hasn't been about human culture but much more about human nature. Persona does the former due to the more personal focus but definitely not a mainline SMT.
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Japanese schools (and business culture) are insanely competitive, and become ever more so the higher you rise. Chiaki's visual metaphor for Yosuga is a classroom. The way Japanese adults are expected to comport themselves makes it difficult to make and maintain friendships outside of one's immediate circle of work. Isamu sells Musubi not with a depiction of being alone, but with being alone in a crowd. A problem with modern life not just in Japan but everywhere is that people are often pushed into doing work that is just "a job." I.e. not something they want to do, but something their parents pushed them to reach for, like being a doctor or lawyer. Or something that doesn't feel like necessary work at all. Just cogs in a machine. Like the empty, mechanical presentation of Shijima. Looking at it that way, it seems like rejecting all three is probably the point. Each just emphasizes an issue that already exists.
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Honestly I'd love to decide the politics of my country by punching everyone I disapprove of but I just don't see precious, precious democratic ideals really carrying over. Too bad for me.
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*: Before we start today, I need to talk about something that happened last time. Or rather, about something that didn't happen. When Nocturne asks you a question, it may add a certain number of points to one or more invisible meters depending on your answer, and each Reason has its own meter. For example, when Gozu-Tennoh asks if you'll join the Mantra, accepting gives you 8 Yosuga points, refusing gives you 4 Shijima points, and saying you can't decide gives you 4 Musubi points. This isn't limited to obvious major characters, as even some less remarkable NPCs will ask questions that may increase meters. For example, your answer to the Oni near the Ikebukuro shops to whom our crew pretended to be oppressed may increase either your Yosuga or Shijima meters by 2 points (but not Musubi). As a rule of thumb, if a NPC asks you a question again if you talk to them a second time, it has no effect (because you can't grind points by answering the same question multiple times), but if its dialog changes you probably had a chance to get some points. Also, the questions related to the Amala Labyrinth and the Fiends (the Maniacs expansion content, basically) never have points associated, and your interactions with Hijiri don't seem to affect the meters either. I mention this because the Musubi meter has now had an effect on the story. If we had either accumulated 32 Musubi points, or if we had agreed with Isamu right after we saw his transformation in the Amala Network, Isamu would have given us the opportunity to summon Noah ourselves by dunking Hijiri in the Magatsuhi pool. Your answer then either confirms your Musubi affiliation, or locks you out of it forever. Of course, we neither agreed with Isamu way back then, nor have we sufficiently reflected the Musubi philosophy in our travels, so he didn't think highly enough of us to ask us to do the honors. In an ideal world I would have asked for viewer input every time points were in play, but this is an LP in the world we have, it would have made for terrible pacing, and that's the sort of thing best left to a streaming environment with a live audience. You're definitely getting all the major decisions though. Besides, seeing how things have been going so far, I doubt the ending we get will hinge on the time I told that one Yosuga angel to gently caress off, or on other similar minor decisions. Alright, that's settled; we can now return to our regularly scheduled programming and go on mourning the demise of the best reporter in the world.  : ...I guess this is it, then. : Hmm. I don't think so.: Right, me neither. If we're still together in the Vortex World... : IT MUST MEAN SUMMONING NOAH WAS NOT THE FINAL STEP. : There may still be time, then.: There has to be time. We just need to track Isamu down. : And kill another god. : How will you find him? He just disappeared.: Usually we'd ask Hijiri for info, but...: Do you have anyone else on your side?: That Takao chick? I don't know how she'd know anything.: Futomimi has to know.: Ah, there's a good point. : WHAT IS THIS?: Eh...?: OVER THERE! Music: Mystery    : ...Finally, a Reason has been conceived.  : Lady Chiaki is on the move. Our god of Yosuga will soon descend upon us at Asakusa.  : The Manikins! We gotta go! Everyone get the lead out!  : Now, with Musubi, we can do whatever we want! : It seems that he has gained power using the Magatsuhi here. Some demons from a rival group came on a reconnaissance mission...*: We reach the large Temple Terminal and warp directly to Asakusa.  Aw hell. *: Before we go anywhere, we hit the Cathedral. : Princess Kushinada, Lord Okuninushi, you've both been steadfast and valuable allies and I wish I could make more of a ceremony of this, but...: Right, we're in a bit of a hurry! : We understand. Keep making use of our power wisely.: I will. Thank you. Minister? : Here we go.Kushinada + Okuninushi =   quote:Lv44 Fury Dionysus  : Are you all ready to PARTY?: Nope, no time for parties right now. We gotta kill a bunch of angels first.: Kid, that sounds like the second best kind of party!: Gotcha. Let's go! : Hey! Hey! Can you speak? : Gah, dammit!*: There are no other Manikins in Nakamise-Douri. But there are now random battles.  I expected angels, but there's no one left to guard the entrance, so the local demons are pouring in.    *: Ah, so there are angels too then. This is definitely Chiaki's handiwork, if we had any doubt. In any case, there's no time to walk all the way to Mifunashiro, so we use the Terminal again. Atmosphere: Massacre at Mifunashiro      : ...we're too late.: Maybe not. I don't see Futomimi here. They might be putting up a last stand deeper inside.: Right. Right! Let's move.We're here to help, so I dare hope Futomimi won't mind us trespassing this time.  : Dammits, you idiots! I'm not here to fight you!*: Their responses are the same as in the Manikin encounters in Ikebukuro. We run.  None of the Manikins we see near the entrance are alive to tell any tales, but the door in is open.     : A demon-like girl came to steal our Magatsuhi... : Are we all going to die...?: Not if I can help it. But I can't stay here just for you, so, try to keep a low profile, will you?  quote:Lv54 Brute Shiki-Ouji *: Hanuman levels up and learns Life Surge (increases Max HP by 30%), which I let replace Berserk. That was his last skill, so...    quote:Lv54 Fury Wu Kong *: This is Onkot's final evolution, and it earns us another phys-immune ally!  : Is... that true...?: I... I don't know. I wish I could tell you.*: A Cube slightly hidden below the door surrenders a Magic Mirror, and that clears the first room.   : This place... this place is beautiful.: A little eerie maybe, but, yeah, it is. Though it'd look better with less blood and fewer corpses.: ...this crime must be punished.: ...yeah. : Futomimi... chased after her...: That bold fool.     : All that's left is to finish off that arrogant mud puppet, Futomimi...So he's still alive!   *: A small Terminal already? I won't complain, but I wonder how much trouble they thought we'd have getting here.  : No... No matter how hard we try... we are not match... for demons, or for humans... We should have... run... : I... I can't... I can't fight... Th-There's n-no way I could beat a d-demon... I don't wanna die... I don't wanna die!!!!: ...sorry.: I know...! Y-you're a good demon, right...?: I... Uh...: Yes, he is. What is your request? : That's the plan. : Then... I'll be hiding in here, so hurry... *: Curiously, this is the first Divine fight we've had since we arrived; the other enemies so far are Gogmagogs, Titans with Sudama, Shiki-ouji with Shikigami, and various Manikins. We still have Sophia equipped for immunity to Expel, in any case.      This feels like a giant vertical cavern; it seems we keep going in and out of this waterfall formation.    : I heard there were a bunch of idiots and tools messing with the Manikins down here. I see neither of us are disappointed. : You are much different from those mud puppets who can only talk about creation. : A world without hierarchy, where everyone lives equally in peace... *chuckle* As followers of Yosuga, it is not to be tolerated.: Exactly. We must destroy their hopes before a monstrosity such as that even begins to take shape... : There's definitely monstrosity going on here today, but the Manikins have nothing to do with it. : Yes. I am.: ............ ...So be it. After we finish off the mud puppets, Lady Chiaki's god shall descend upon us.: Not if I can help it!: Once you see that magnificent sight, your opinion shall change...: Why don't you come down here and say that to my fist, huh?  : YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT! > Will you take it? : I'm thinking I might have done enough desecration already today.: WHATEVER IT IS, MAYBE IT COULD HELP US AVENGE HIM.: ...maybe. Alright then. My apologies, friend, but I probably need this more than you at this point. : ...thank you.*: We use it on Titania right away.  More dead Manikins...  : Ah! Sir, let me...: ...Up... ahead... A girl... and... Futomimi...: I know, I know. Don't speak.: ............  Hall of Mirror, eh?   > Will you step into the light? Nowhere else to go.  Cutscenes + Boss battle: Never leave us again: CHIAKI! GET BACK HERE!: She's gone, man.: GAAAAAH!: Zed...: That... that creature mentioned Ginza, right?: ...: Boss, there's nothing we can do here anymore.: MASTER, WE MUST NOT LET THE DEBT ACCRUED HERE TODAY GO UNPAID.: We will not.quote:Seraph Raphael quote:Seraph Gabriel quote:Seraph Uriel *: This fight is a bit like the Moirae Sisters fight, in that you have three enemies with distinct abilities, but the Seraphs are individually stronger and as a group they're not as focused on synergy. All three of them nullify ailments, reflect Expel and Death, and resist the four main damage elements, so physical attacks are the way to go. Raphael is the main irritant, as he'll typically spend his turn on either Tetrakarn or Makalakarn, though he also knows Stasis Blade, Diarahan and Beast Eye. Uriel is more of a damage-dealer with Prominence and Megidola, though he also knows Beast Eye and Diarahan. Gabriel's most dangerous attacks are Radiance (heavy Expel damage to all foes) and Holy Wrath (chance to cut current HP by 50% for all foes), but she has Maziodyne too in case you had the foresight to shut her down with Expel-immune Magatama and allies. All together, that's a recipe for a pretty tough fight, especially if Ralph and U-dawg start flexing their Diarahan muscles. However, you may have noticed that none of them know Dekunda or Dekaja. If you bring the appropriate buffs and debuffs, you can easily turn all three of them into a tragic joke. They all have 3000 HP too, so with a few stacks of Tarukaja and Rakunda, Zed's Focused Divine Shot could potentially 1-hit-KO each of them in turn without Diarahan ever being a problem. As you may have guessed, the Yosuga alignment meter came into play here. If you have accumulated 32 Yosuga points, or if you agreed with Chiaki back in the Mantra HQ before she lost her arm, you are given a chance to ally with her, which cements your Yosuga affiliation. If you refuse, she of course still throws the Seraphs in your face to keep you busy while she does her dirty work. If you accept, she asks you to kill Futomimi yourself. That sure would have given this LP a very different feel, wouldn't it?  : You. Come with me. I'll give you this chance.  : Heh, heh...> Shiki-Ouji is smiling fearlessly. : Comply with my desire. Offer me 910 Macca.: Small price.: O wearisome robber baron, Nay... NAY, 'tis not enough! I require 670 Macca.: If it'll save a life.: More, I say! Empty thy pockets as thou hast emptied my patience! : This guy has no idea what's going down, does he?: I require 1 Life Stone.: ...take it.: I cannot comply. I have trust in thee, but I cannot ally myself with your grace for our swords will conflict.: That's your funeral, chump!: Leave. Now.: Here! Take thee this.> You obtained Dis-Stun x1. : I. Said. LEAVE.: I must bid you adieu.> Shiki-Ouji left. : Wow, I really thought you were gonna wad him up and eat him.: This is a holy place. Only angels die here now.*: A few "battles" later...   : If you think so, I recommend you turn around and walk away.> Shiki-Ouji is content.  : I am called Shiki-Ouji of the Brute bloodline. My fate lies in thy hands.> Shiki-Ouji joined your party.   *: Huh, I didn't notice this coming in, but it would appear Chiaki hit the door so hard it flew all the way over here. At any rate, by the time we leave, only angels have died. I could warp straight to Ginza, but I want to check out the rest of Asakusa to see if there are any survivors with interesting stuff to say.   : Well, I guess it's a good place to kick back and relax... There's no one around, so I can enjoy some peace and quiet.: ... : Well, we don't really care.  : ...he died. : I see. I guess it must be pretty rough. : ...I don't like the idea of a world controlled by power.: Yeah. Me neither, brother.: Living here, I've realized that Nihilo's Reason of Shijima is the best. No more fighting, please.: Oh gently caress off. : I like it. I mean, why do I have to live with all these losers?: Said the dead loser. : Kid, I never thought I'd be this happy to see you. : Oh, you're back. I don't have anything for you, but... I'm not stopping you from playing. So, why don't you try?: Sorry kid, I'm really busy right now. Maybe some other time. : You don't have to push yourself anyway...: You keep on gaming, alright? : ...that's one way of putting it.: Yosuga, Shijima, Musubi... These three are all competing for the right of creation. I don't know who you're for, and I don't want to know. But, the time is nearing.: I'm still holding out hope for one more. : Now that Futomimi's dead, Asakusa's nothing but a ghost town. It's just as Lady Chiaki said. We need to watch Ginza... The Assembly of Nihilo. : I hope you're happy.: Manikins were running about here, not long ago... Now, demons are here instead. Is this the flow of time? : There's still some 'round here. : Having to live like this again... *sigh* Life is short...  : Aw hell, old man. I'm sorry. : ............ ...I'm tired of it all! : drat...: ............: Hmm...?: ............: Are you alright?: ...Maybe lying here wasn't such a great idea. : But, this place was bustling with Manikins just a short while back.  : I'm not a Musubi, but I think they should've respected themselves more.*: And that's it for Asakusa. The junk shop owner and the Collector Manikin are still here, but they have nothing new to say. Just before we leave, Sparna levels up and learns Diarahan, its last skill. I let it replace Fog Breath, since Zed has a lockdown on that one. Gives him something to do!  : Hmm?> Sparna gave something to you. You received Mamudo Rock!   : You placed death in my hands, and now you place life. Very clever! quote:Lv63 Avian Garuda *: That'll be that. To Ginza, then. Dropping a save, I see we've passed the 100 hour mark! Of course a lot of that was typing dialog down, and it doesn't include close to all of the time I've spent on this LP, but I ain't complaining!  And the world goes on.   : Something happened! They must've been doing something! : Sacrificial fusion... The Demonic Compendium... But... there's a rumor that they're hiding something even better. : ...I mean, Shijima. It will be shrouded in silence. : There's a tunnel at Yurakucho Station that leads to Nagatacho.: Hmm. That's where the Diet is. Very helpful, thanks.  : Commander Hikawa is the supreme ruler of the battle for creation. We may be a late entry, but that's because we were preparing for an incredible god.*: True fact: I accidentally typed "we were preparing for an incredible dog" and then proceeded to giggle for like thirty seconds.  : Dude what is your problem, we don't need to know that.*: Everyone needs to know about incredible dogs.  : They're sayin' there's a guy diggin' a tunnel at Yurakucho. I doubt there's any relation to what Hikawa's doin', though.  : Now, we can create our ideal world of stillness!  : Even if our headquarters was attacked, even if we lost the Nightmare System... He'd still be victorious! He conceives plans as if he knows what events will take place.: He sure is crazy prepared, I'll give him that.: He may be human, but he's a brilliant strategist. : You become one with the universe, and there's no need to suffer. ...It fits a person who keeps his cool, like me. : It's going to be a refined new world where the weak don't exist. I think it's a pretty rotten idea, personally.: Yeah, me too. And I'm pretty strong, so you know I'm not just trying to save my own skin. : Their world is one where you can do anything you want without ever having to meddle with anyone else. What do you think of that?: Sounds nice on the surface, but I know I'd just get sick of it within hours.  : I hear he's after the large amount of Magatsuhi at the Diet Building... It's ironic that a human is using demons to do his bidding, rather than the other way around.The National Diet Building is really the last place I would have expected to visit after the apocalypse, but I guess it makes sense. Politicians, demons, what's the difference, really? *: We heal up, drop a save, and head out towards Yurakucho Station, near the back entrance to the Assembly of Nihilo dome. It was locked last time we went, but if Hikawa had to move his troops through, it's probably still open.    *: The overland encounters haven't changed, and the trip is uneventful. The destination, however... Cutscene + Boss battle: Fiend TrumpeterWell he sure went down like a chump. Is the final Fiend really so weak, or... have I grown so strong? quote:Fiend Trumpeter *: Wow, I didn't think I'd get away with this one so easily. The Trumpeter only has the basic boss immunities going on, so that's not a problem. He knows Megidolaon, Makakaja, Dekaja, and all four Ma-dyne spells, but that's not quite the problem either, especially since you can debuff him with impunity. The problem is that he casts Holy Melody or Evil Melody every four turns, alternating between each. Evil Melody instantly kills your teammate with the lowest HP (in percentage of maximum HP, not raw current HP), and I'm pretty sure it bypasses any Death immunity you might have. If everyone's at full HP, it just picks a target at random. Holy Melody picks its target the same way and heals it to full, but if Trumpeter himself has proportionally lower HP than anyone on your squad, it gets its 11000 HP back. The basic strategy here is to make sure Evil Melody doesn't kill the Demi-fiend, which isn't too hard to do if you have allies with skills that cost a lot of HP, then revive them with a Revival Bead or the basic Recarm (so they have very little HP) and summon them just in time for Holy Melody to bring them back to full health. Of course, Zed hits so hard thanks to Focus/Tarukaja/Rakunda that the cycle didn't exactly have time to repeat. I'm also pretty happy with how strong Wu Kong is even without Focus on; he's not in the same league but he contributed a great deal anyway. Next time! We may go after Hikawa, or... we may go bring light to the darkness. : Man, that's not even a question, I'mma go down that pit again and punch stuff a lot.*: Well forgive me for trying to introduce a little suspense in the proceedings.
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Say what you will about the wanton cruelty of Yosuga, but at least they're equal opportunity. A little girl like Chiaki got the tits to go to Ikebukuro and personally appeal to Gozu-Tennoh, while Yuko was discarded by Hikawa, only to be duped by some wannabe god. It's already been mentioned that Hikawa for all his Buddhist influence and talk about serving the world was a Gaian and pals around with fallen angels even before he casually destroyed the old world, but he's really your classic evil overlord. His Reason of Stillness is his cold rule where things move according to his will and none other. Even this far in, the only power that held all the cards for an extended period of time was Nihilo. On the other hand, if the pacifistic Futomimi had managed to kill Chiaki, and he is surprisingly tough, even stronger than the bloodthirsty Sakahagi, would the rest of the angels bow to him seeing their beloved leader dead at the feet of someone stronger or would they turn on him anyway out of some strange sense of loyalty to their dead savior? The latter option has no place in Yosuga, ironically enough, for all that they revere her, and because of his strength, if he willed just living peacefully, they would be honor bound to obey. That's assuming the angels have any code of honor, especially after ganging up to slaughter a bunch of helpless Manikins, instead of actually proving their strength by redeeming their honor against Nihilo. And Baal Avatar is always one scary looking bitch. Isamu beat the others to the punch in summoning, but they're still getting their chance. Noah looks like a simple lump that would rest in its own corner of smug self-satisfaction while Baal Avatar looks ready to fight.
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It's a slight pity that we didn't even get the chance to see Futomimi's boss fight. It's the only time you get to see him twitching.
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Well, there goes another ally. They say that all of the reasons are LAW based but I don't know, it seems pretty survival of the fittest CHAOS to me. It's almost as if the endgame for both sides were practically identical or something.
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So we're officially locked out of two endings at this point, right?
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ManlyGrunting posted:Well, there goes another ally. They say that all of the reasons are LAW based but I don't know, it seems pretty survival of the fittest CHAOS to me. It's almost as if the endgame for both sides were practically identical or something. Yeah, we only have one human ally remaining, and she doesn't exactly have a good plan on what to do yet. This update was pretty intense. Futomimi might not have been human, but he's been very decent to us, which is more than we can say about any of our former friends and other humans(I'm assuming everyone here is done with any bullshit Reasons that are left for us to choose.) I'm assuming once Shikawa's god is summoned, we'll pretty much be ready for the endgame? There's no more fiends left to beat up, either. Also, I finally jumped into the Nocturne pool, and it's a bit deeper than Persona 3/4's. It's a bit tough, but previous experience with the series has helped quite a bit(Kaja/unda spells are awesome and I love that the basic spell affects all targets not just one, and as far as I can tell, indefinitely. I can see why they were hit with a nerf stick later on in the series.)
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FrankZP posted:
I hope you're going to do what I think you're going to do.
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