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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Motronic posted:

Lawyer. Now. Do not try to do this yourself or you are likely to get hosed.



Yeah I know it. Working on it.

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Motronic posted:

What the gently caress? I'm working under the table at this point.


WHAT THE gently caress.

Feel the socialism. Let it grow within you.

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
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Motronic posted:

What the gently caress? I'm working under the table at this point.

WHAT THE gently caress.

There's this thing we do called "build infrastructure" and "provide income support to those in need" and "free healthcare to those who can't afford insurance, significantly discounted even to those that can" and so on and so forth. These things cost money, you know.

The tax free threshold is $18,200. It takes quite a while to hit the maximum marginal rate. More info.

Slavvy posted:

Feel the socialism. Let it grow within you.

Not emptyquoting because governments that actually do useful things are great.

Tony quidprano
Jan 19, 2014
IM SO BAD AT ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT F1 IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY SOME DUDE WITH TOO MUCH FREE MONEY WILL KEEP CHANGING IT UNTIL I SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ACTUALLY POST SOMETHING THAT ISNT SPEWING HATE/SLURS/TELLING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES
I'm perfectly fine with a 50% marginal tax rate, the alternative is getting health care through a $400/month insurance plan with a $5,000 deductible.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

literally a fish posted:

Not emptyquoting because governments that actually do useful things are great.

I'll admit, I complain about being poor because I can't afford the things I want, but I've never been unable to afford the things I need because the government sorts most of it out.

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

kastein posted:

Jesus, how the gently caress do you owe the IRS that much? :stonk:

I shoveled the IRS just shy of $20,000 this year. $8,000 of it went towards my estimated taxes for last year so hopefully I wont owe that much in April.

A lot of that was because I really hosed up my 2014 taxes but man, this year really sucked financially :(

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

gently caress, the US used to have like an 80% top marginal rate, and those were some of the best times economically we've ever seen.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Enourmo posted:

gently caress, the US used to have like an 80% top marginal rate, and those were some of the best times economically we've ever seen.

96 for businesses.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



Hell, SOCIALIST CANADA has tax rates that cap out lower than the US rates, and actually seem pretty comparable (if not lower) if wiki is to be believed. As for tax problems, I've always done taxes using some of the government recommended free software. It's really nice and simple, at least for all my needs and takes all of like an hour for both of us.

We still have our own mess of problems, but I feel much better living in the north after reading through these chat threads.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Awwwww poo poo we're looking at 50 degrees on Sunday. Time to turn some wrenches and clean some benches.

Our overnight low on Saturday is higher than that. :sigh:

Why the gently caress is it warm enough to need the drat a/c in January?!

Fart Pipe posted:

I shoveled the IRS just shy of $20,000 this year.

That's more than I made in 2015... by a lot. :smith:

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Magnus Praeda posted:

Depending on how low income we're talking and how comparatively simple the return is, a lot of tax companies (like H&R Block) offer free filing and do an okay job of explaining stuff as you go. Some states even offer free tax clinics and tax advice/double-checking of forms.

My workplace offers free tax preparation and filing for all the people who don't need complicated returns (i.e. don't own homes or investments, etc). They have H&R Block (I think) do it, and they actually have them come into the office and schedule for the people to do it while they are on the clock. I think it's intended mostly to help out all the hourly people on the help desk, janitorial & maintenance staff, etc. I think it's a pretty nice thing to do.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Enourmo posted:

gently caress, the US used to have like an 80% top marginal rate, and those were some of the best times economically we've ever seen.

To be fair though, unless you were an idiot and didn't hire an accountant with knowledge of tax loopholes nobody paid the top marginal rate in the 50s.

There were so many loopholes that when JFK dropped the top rate to ~60% and also closed most of them it was largely considered a tax hike on the wealthy.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Awwwww poo poo we're looking at 50 degrees on Sunday. Too cold so I ain't doing poo poo.

FTFY

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Agreed.

I haven't done poo poo in a month because our highs were all below 60 and it was mildly uncomfortable.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I get it, I live in a state with mostly one season too, but... 50s is cold?

If I could knock my bedroom down to 55 or so whenever I slept, I would be incredibly happy. My last apartment was small enough that I could keep the thermostat at 68 in the summer and only get raped a little bit (electric bill was about $150/mo in the summer - gotta love small apartments on a middle floor - winter electric bills were $30ish with the heat set at 65, and I'm pretty sure the majority of that was split between my water heater and clothes dryer).

Okay, fine, two seasons. There's "oh poo poo, tornados" and "gently caress this heat".

edit: I don't like wrenching on poo poo when it's below about 45 though, poo poo HURTS when a wrench decides to say "wait you wanted me to actually grip that bolt?", causing you to slam your hand into multiple sharp things.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Jan 30, 2016

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.
Weee, taxes done.
$9 return.

Combined, not net. $8+$1. Lovely.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





ilkhan posted:

Weee, taxes done.
$9 return.

Combined, not net. $8+$1. Lovely.

Seems like you did your W-2 just about perfectly. Well done.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

some texas redneck posted:

I get it, I live in a state with mostly one season too, but... 50s is cold?

Anything below 60 is too cold tbh, I hate it.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Motronic posted:

What the gently caress? I'm working under the table at this point.


WHAT THE gently caress.


See all the poo poo you Americans complain about in every chat thread that every sane country doesnt? Well there's part of your reason. Jack up taxes on the rich and impliment socialism, civilisation is really neat.

GG we just had some rain. The lower room flooded due to the drains not handling something close to 100 litres a second incoming - something over 50mm in about an hour.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
It's funny, there is this idea in the us that the government does everything badly and we don't need it. It's like people don't understand the reason we have it in the first place.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

jamal posted:

It's funny, there is this idea in the us that the government does everything badly and we don't need it. It's like people don't understand the reason we have it in the first place.

They don't understand that the plan was to make government work poorly by cutting budgets so people would hate government. The DMV sucks because it is hilariously understaffed. Properly staffed, they'd tend to have 2 to 3 times as many employees, but they can't because they aren't funded for it. The DMV is a prime target for cuts because it is the only real interaction normal people have with the state on a semi-regular basis.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Donald Trump will say "let them eat cake" to a country where everyone has a gun and then we can start over.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



Cakefool posted:

Lolmerica taxes. Hey, UK goons who don't run their own businesses, how difficult were your taxes this year?

I just paid the last payment ever of my student loan :)
(I in fact overpayed it by about £500 so should get a refund from the student loans company in about 18months after I hassle them enough)

I own my own business. My Next tax return isn't going to be so nice. The one after it is going to be even worse since the conservative government have decided that I should be taxed by another 7.5% because they love small business so much.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Tomarse posted:

I just paid the last payment ever of my student loan :)
(I in fact overpayed it by about £500 so should get a refund from the student loans company in about 18months after I hassle them enough)

I own my own business. My Next tax return isn't going to be so nice. The one after it is going to be even worse since the conservative government have decided that I should be taxed by another 7.5% because they love small business so much.

Congrats! And I'm due about £130 refund this year too. You're also the reason I put in the bit about own businesses :v:

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Awwwww poo poo we're looking at 50 degrees on Sunday. Time to turn some wrenches and clean some benches.
Nice weekend here too, time to wash cars/motorcycles and spend some time outside.

ilkhan posted:

Weee, taxes done.
$9 return.

Combined, not net. $8+$1. Lovely.
While no big return might suck that's pretty awesome to have your W2 that close. I adjust mine a bit every year and end up either owing or getting 100-200 so I'm just leaving it alone for now.


Woke up at 4:30 today because the house smelled like an electrical fire. Heat pump was trying to start up, could hear some poo poo clicking on/off through the wall. Waiting on a call back from a tech to schedule something. Good weekend for it with the nice temps but still a pain in the rear end. Natural gas fireplace will keep the place plenty warm until it's fixed.

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



some texas redneck posted:


Why the gently caress is it warm enough to need the drat a/c in January?!


Thanks for reminding me, the Subaru needs it's AC topped up. Felt pretty weak yesterday and it was like 65 out. I'm so glad I bought those manifold gauges last year and read the AC thread. Thanks Motronic!

e: no, I'm not a tub of guts, I went running at work and needed some refreshing cool air on the ride home. Okay, maybe I'm a bit of a tubbaguts.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Mine seemed to be on the weak side as well, though the system was drat near empty when I finally got gauges last year - so it wouldn't surprise me that it may be low again. It holds a hilariously small amount of refrigerant - a little under a pound - so any loss is immediately noticeable.

NitroSpazzz posted:

Woke up at 4:30 today because the house smelled like an electrical fire. Heat pump was trying to start up, could hear some poo poo clicking on/off through the wall. Waiting on a call back from a tech to schedule something. Good weekend for it with the nice temps but still a pain in the rear end. Natural gas fireplace will keep the place plenty warm until it's fixed.

You don't have backup heat of any kind in the air handler? (thermostat may label it as emergency heat)

leica posted:

Anything below 60 is too cold tbh, I hate it.

Man, you'd really hate working anywhere that you'd have to ever go into a walk-in cooler then.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

I used to hate painting and decorating, then I discovered the combo of taping everything followed by chucking the rollers and brushes after a project instead of spending forever cleaning them.
Consumables cost of painting 1 room: 2" brush £1, 4" roller 50p, 9" roller £1. Quarter roll of tape. Honestly I save hours over my previous way of doing things.

Anyway, daughter's room painted pink couple of weeks ago, sons room being painted some shade of yellow now. Yes within reason we let them choose their own colours.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

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some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Cakefool posted:

I used to hate painting and decorating, then I discovered the combo of taping everything followed by chucking the rollers and brushes after a project instead of spending forever cleaning them.
Consumables cost of painting 1 room: 2" brush £1, 4" roller 50p, 9" roller £1. Quarter roll of tape. Honestly I save hours over my previous way of doing things.

Anyway, daughter's room painted pink couple of weeks ago, sons room being painted some shade of yellow now. Yes within reason we let them choose their own colours.

I just went the other way. We painted the master bedroom last year with rollers and, no matter how I applied, I can still see roller marks if I look at the right angle. Since that will not do, I bought a Titan paint sprayer. Prep and clean up will be the biggest time consumers, by far. I think this thing would blast a wall in a couple minutes.

Got it off of eBay from a pawn shop... they sent it to me absolutely full of paint. :wtc: Good thing is that it's almost new, none of the paint had dried, so a filter change and a SERIOUS cleaning and it's ready to go.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



Cakefool posted:

Congrats! And I'm due about £130 refund this year too. You're also the reason I put in the bit about own businesses :v:

Nice one! Since we are about the same age its good to know it hasn't taken me too long! Some of my mates paid theirs off a few years ago.

Now I just need to pay off the mortgage....

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


some texas redneck posted:

You don't have backup heat of any kind in the air handler? (thermostat may label it as emergency heat)
I do but I'd rather just turn the unit off and use the fireplace. Can't remember if auxiliary heat was on or not when I woke up, I just smelled burning and noticed some light smoke in the house so I killed power to it. Tech should be here in the next half hour or so to look at it. It's 27f out so mildly chilly but the fireplace can cook me out of the house with ease.

edit: It's cooked and 11 years old so time for a new HVAC...Awesome way to start the weekend





drat this is a clean little truck - http://westky.craigslist.org/cto/5397474085.html

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leica posted:

Anything below 60 is too cold tbh, I hate it.

Wow, you really are from Florida, aren't you? :v:

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

some texas redneck posted:

That's more than I made in 2015... by a lot. :smith:

Oh its because Im an independent contractor, not like a millionaire, haha. It took a significant amount of my net income last year but I shouldnt owe hardly anything to the IRS and that will be awesome this year not having to make huge payments every month.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Wow, you really are from Florida, aren't you? :v:

I honestly feel the same way, though I usually say 70. I spent my first 9 years in Chicago, the next 11 in Texas, a year in FL, better part of two years off the coast of Iraq/Afghanistan, and then 3 years in Guam.

My body rejects cold weather now. 80+ and mildly humid is perfect.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Tomarse posted:

Nice one! Since we are about the same age its good to know it hasn't taken me too long! Some of my mates paid theirs off a few years ago.

Now I just need to pay off the mortgage....

I've friends who've paid zero towards their loans because they haven't hit the threshold 15 years after uni. I'm nearly the first amongst my friends to pay mine off I think.

Only 24.5 years left on the mortgage :haw:

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
Middle Son got his learner's permit today. I've been designated the co-driver because Wifey is too nervous, and #1 Son is a cynical know-it-all.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

I love cold weather but gently caress wrenching in it. I did the front brakes on my Blazer while it was raining (lightly for orlando but still) for like 2 hours, it was like 65 out but the rain was way colder; by the end of it I was shivering.

Only time i've ever cried working on a vehicle.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


Cakefool posted:

I've friends who've paid zero towards their loans because they haven't hit the threshold 15 years after uni. I'm nearly the first amongst my friends to pay mine off I think.

Only 24.5 years left on the mortgage :haw:

First of my friends to pay off my student loans, thanks to selling a house I got for dirt cheap because the PO was a lazy gently caress. Owned for 5 years, sold for about a 35k profit. Owed 30k in student loans. The other 5k bought appliances for the new house when we moved East. Huzzah.

And only about 20 years left on our mortgage, hooray for accelerated bi-weekly payments chewing through the interest faster and actually getting some principle paid off. Not like we'll be here that long (lords I hope not), but I'll cope. I'd love to be able to scrounge up 10-15k one year to put an anniversary payment on it, but we have too much poo poo that's getting to "replace this soon" status on the house.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

Figured out some VPN poo poo, and ganked the imsa.tv stream, pretty happy as someone that's all but computer illiterate. Got that poo poo on the TV, and irc chat on the laptop. Gonna be a good night.

Now I just need to be less sick, because it's gonna be warm as gently caress tomorrow and I wanna work on the car.

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Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I'm watching the Ford GT on Fox's Sport Go app. It looks very good so far. What happened to the second GT?

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