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epitasis posted:i don't know that they're said to be paying AJ a TON of money, just more than an presumably his indie+njpw take and more than an nxt contract. He left TNA because they offered him less than his current pay which I believe was $200k/year? That's probably the number to beat.
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After watching New Year's Dash, I'm even more baffled as to why the Bucks took the belts last night. Omega called out AJ for being a bad leader, and that would make more sense if it came the night after every BC member lost a title match.
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Fantasticamania cards sound INCREDIBLE. Virus vs. Dragon Lee, Dorada vs. BUSHI, Cavernario vs. Titan, Jay White/Dragon Lee vs. Virus/Hechicero, VIRUS VS. LIGER
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epitasis posted:i mean theyve cut tens of hours of swear filled promos they could've figured one more wouldn't hurt. one that took place in japan. also they may have been drunk Which is another thing I don't understand. Does anybody really want to live in a world where Karl Anderson can't use the Machine Gun gimmick and cut a profanity-laced promo?
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ShoHei are being sent out on their excursion from njpw to CMLL, good luck, young lions!!  “ We’re going on excursion, to shine brighter as wrestlers. So excited! Let’s go see the world together, partner☆ “
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The real winner in all this is Kamaitachi's superfan who now has two people to go buckwild for
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Glad their excursions are finally starting and in a promotion I actually like.
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CMLL NJPW (SUN) 01/17/2016 Kochi Sunpia CHRES, Kochi, Japan 1) Kushida & Stuka Jr. vs Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu all Tanaka/Komatsu matches are part of a challenge series. 2) Guerrero Maya Jr. & The Panther vs Boby Zavala & Okumura 3) Fuego & Titán vs Bárbaro Cavernario & YOSHI-HASHI 4) Dragon Lee & Jay White vs Hechicero & Virus 5) Atlantis, Juice Robinson, Máscara Dorada vs Bushi, Evil, Tetsuya Naito 6) Ryusuke Taguchi & Volador Jr. vs Mephisto & Shinsuke Nakamura 7) Hiroshi Tanahashi, Jyushin Thunder Liger, Mistico vs Gedo, Kazuchika Okada, Último Guerrero CMLL NJPW (TUE) 01/19/2016 KBS Hall, Kyoto, Japan 1) Fuego & Ryusuke Taguchi vs Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu 2) The Panther vs Okumura 3) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Boby Zavala 4) David Finlay, Dragon Lee, Jyushin Thunder Liger, Titán vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Hechicero, Virus, YOSHI-HASHI 5) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Stuka Jr. vs Bushi, Evil, Tetsuya Naito 6) Kushida & Mistico vs Gedo & Último Guerrero 7) Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson, Volador Jr. vs Kazuchika Okada, Mephisto, Shinsuke Nakamura CMLL NJPW (WED) 01/20/2016 Osaka Prefectual Gymnasium, Osaka, Japan 1) Jushin Liger & Stuka Jr. vs Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu 2) The Panther vs Boby Zavala 3) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Okumura 4) Jay White, Kushida, Ryusuke Taguchi, Titán vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Gedo, Hechicero, YOSHI-HASHI 5) Atlantis, Fuego, Máscara Dorada vs Bushi, Evil, Tetsuya Naito 6) Juice Robinson, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Mephisto, Shinsuke Nakamura, Último Guerrero 7) Dragon Lee & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Okada & Virus CMLL NJPW (FRI) 01/22/2016 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan 1) Fuego & Stuka Jr. vs Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu 2) David Finlay, Guerrero Maya Jr., Jyushin Thunder Liger, Kushida, The Panther vs Boby Zavala, Gedo, Hechicero, Okumura, YOSHI-HASHI 3) Atlantis & Juice Robinson vs Evil & Tetsuya Naito 4) Titán vs Bárbaro Cavernario © [MEX WELTER] Barbaro second defense 5) Máscara Dorada vs Bushi © [CMLL WELTER] BUSHI first defense 6) Dragon Lee, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Ryusuke Taguchi vs Kazuchika Okada, Shinsuke Nakamura, Virus 7) Mistico & Volador Jr. vs Mephisto & Último Guerrero CMLL NJPW (SAT) 01/23/2016 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan 1) Máscara Dorada & Titán vs Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu 2) Fuego, Juice Robinson, Kushida vs Gedo, Hechicero, YOSHI-HASHI 3) Bárbaro Cavernario & The Panther © vs Boby Zavala & Okumura [Arena Coliseo TAG] first defense 4) Ryusuke Taguchi & Stuka Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario & Shinsuke Nakamura 5) Atlantis, Jyushin Thunder Liger, Tiger Mask vs Bushi, Evil, Tetsuya Naito 6) Dragon Lee © vs Virus [CMLL SL] Dragon Lee fifth defense 7) Hiroshi Tanahashi, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Kazuchika Okada, Mephisto, Último Guerrero CMLL NJPW (SUN) 01/24/2016 Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan 1) Guerrero Maya Jr. & The Panther vs Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu 2) Fuego, Kushida, Stuka Jr., Tiger Mask IV, Titán vs Boby Zavala, Gedo, Hechicero, Okumura, Yoshihashi 3) Jyushin Thunder Liger vs Virus Lucha de Maestros 4) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Ryusuke Taguchi vs Bushi, Evil, Tetsuya Naito 5) Dragon Lee, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Kazuchika Okada, Shinsuke Nakamura 6) Mistico vs Último Guerrero 7) Volador Jr. © vs Mephisto [NWA WELTER] 7th defense
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Oh drat I didn't see Volador/Mephisto getting the main on the last night. Awesome They're booking everything they can to showcase Dragon Lee as well
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ShoHei vs. Panther/Maya and Titan/Dorada could both be ridiculously good if given time.
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Only ones that might be live with commentary and cameras could be the last 3 shows. Dunno about the other ones.
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Yeah I'm sure we'll get all the Korakuens, and it wouldn't shock me to see a single cam from Osaka #2. Sadly as much as I'd love to see the show from KBS Hall due to the amazing venue I seriously doubt we'll get it.
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Last year some of the shows only aired on Samurai TV if I recall.
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Jubs posted:Which is another thing I don't understand. Does anybody really want to live in a world where Karl Anderson can't use the Machine Gun gimmick and cut a profanity-laced promo? I want to live in a world where he's not stuck in a poo poo tag team with Doc Gallows, and if WWE is really splitting up the team and keeping Anderson in NXT while the other 3 go straight to Raw then that's better than what they've been doing from my perspective.
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Rocky Romero, Tama Tonga, and Bad Luck Fale are apparently all in talks with WWE too, however Fale and Tama might be using it as pull to get better deals in NJPW
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quote:5) Dragon Lee, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Kazuchika Okada, Shinsuke Nakamura This matchup looks loving rad
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KungFu Grip posted:Rocky Romero, Tama Tonga, and Bad Luck Fale are apparently all in talks with WWE too, however Fale and Tama might be using it as pull to get better deals in NJPW It's a bit surprising that Tama Tonga has seemingly never gotten a look from WWE. He's second generation, his brother was employed for a good while and didn't seem to leave with heat, and he's jacked as poo poo. Fale is probably only getting a look because Bálor is tired of walking down the ramp.
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Komatsu and Tanaka's new names are Raijin and Fujin.
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NJPW should give Tama Tonga all the money because he's awesome.
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i always thought vince would see the bullet club and go nuts for tama tonga and sign him and forget the rest
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Blast Fantasto posted:NJPW should give Tama Tonga all the money because he's awesome. and if they don't they'll have someone to answer to 
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Germ Incubator posted:and if they don't they'll have someone to answer to Why else are they looking at Tonga & Fale? Haku called Trips up and was like "hey I have an adopted son that is working in Japan alongside his cousin. Look I'm sorry about Camacho but just sign them both or else"
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meng was better than half the other participants in that match
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he was fuckin awesome and i hope they bring him back. gently caress just do Tonga/Haku vs. Makabe/Honma for the tag titles.
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new biz cliz should just be omega, tonga+haku as hw tag, yujiro as junior and bucks as junior tag
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epitasis posted:new biz cliz should just be omega, tonga+haku as hw tag, yujiro as junior and bucks as junior tag yes but consider having anyone that isn't Yujiro
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Newbie question: Are there special rules for the NEVER title matches or something like that? I'm not quite sure what the distinction for that belt is vs the other NJPW ones which are a little more clearly defined.
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it was originally supposed to be the belt all the unsigned outside talent and young njpw guys on the rise would wrestle for with its own NEVER branded shows but that was scrapped pretty early on and its since become ishii's gold watch and added prestige for semi-main events it doesn't have its own rules like the ROH Pure title it's just the division where guys hit each other really hard oatgan fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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It's an openweight belt where the rest are Jr or Heavyweight.
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they call it openweight but i don't think a junior has ever wrestled for it
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Their weight classes are weird though, purely by weight class Shibata's technically a junior.
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The distinction has been totally arbitrary for a while now. Yesterday Kenny Omega just announced he was no longer a junior. With the heavyweights doing just as much flying and spotty sprints as the juniors the only big difference is card placement
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oatgan posted:they call it openweight but i don't think a junior has ever wrestled for it KUSHIDA faced Ishii for it at the Taiwan show in 2014 iirc
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Didn't Ibushi contend for the NEVER belt before he transitioned to heavyweight as well?
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In light of recent news I hope NJPW can re-open relations with TNA to the level where they can send those two new heavyweight prospects over there when its time for their excursions but nothing else. I honestly think there's a very good chance Okada would be in WWE right now if his excursion had been in CMLL instead. Grozz Nuy posted:Didn't Ibushi contend for the NEVER belt before he transitioned to heavyweight as well? Yep, and we've already seen the Young Bucks compete for the new openweight trios titles. Thauros fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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Anyone else worried that with this happening we will never see the match that's been four years in the making - Kenny Omega vs Haruka 2?
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Thauros posted:In light of recent news I hope NJPW can re-open relations with TNA to the level where they can send those two new heavyweight prospects over there when its time for their excursions but nothing else. So you're saying that the twisting fingers of fate have resulted in TNA literally saving New Japan? At last, their existence has been justified! Huzzah!
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Thauros posted:In light of recent news I hope NJPW can re-open relations with TNA to the level where they can send those two new heavyweight prospects over there when its time for their excursions but nothing else. Look I know Okada did fine regardless of his time in TNA but I would never hate on anybody so hard as to drat them to TNA.
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oatgan posted:they call it openweight but i don't think a junior has ever wrestled for it the first ishii-ibushi match was when ibushi was still a junior. Other than that... edit: I didn't read the rest of the thread like a dumbass
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