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iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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So before Shim responds (which I am anxiously awaiting with baited breath), here is the rational non-THC influenced answer:

Most military spouses are not terrible people, taken in the context of their socio-economic status. So while the wife of your average E-3 probably isn't the paragon of social grace and virtue, considering the fact that in socio-economic terms he's making about as much as a guy who changes oil at jiffy lube, the "rough edges "(read: they're white/black/brown/etc trash) of your average enlisted spouse isn't any more than you would expect from someone who married someone who is working a job where the sole qualification is "has a high school diploma, isn't functionally retarded, and is semi-literate." The same logic applies as you go up the ladder in rank.

That said, the stereotype exists for a reason. While most military spouses are people who have lives outside of their spouses, there is a somewhat small but very vocal minority who have their whole identity tied to their spouse. These are the people who run the spouse clubs/family readiness groups/officer wives clubs/etc. These are the people who base seating charts at their wives club function based on the rank and position of the husband. These people will unironically utter the phrase "well just wait until my husband hears about this, he's the *insert rank/position here*" when someone confronts them about something/says something they don't like/etc. These people are stuck in the 1950s (which is fitting since the US military as a whole is stuck in the 1950s from a social construct perspective) and would feel at home on the set of Leave It to Beaver. These people will close their eyes to the most abjectly terrible behavior on the part of their spouse (alcoholism, rampant cheating, abuse of any flavor, you name it) because they are terrified of what life would be like without having the "title" of "wife of the *insert rank/position here*", also because they have no life skills of their own so the idea of having to eke out a living outside the blanket of the socialist military is horrifying beyond belief for them.

Over to you Shim

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iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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Panfilo posted:

Thank you for this explanation. It is interesting seeing how extreme people's viewpoints are on the topic; after reading about it on SA I googled it and found a ton of ladyblogs complaining about how hurtful it is that people criticize, mock, or e-bully someone just because they are a military spouse. I often feel like the truth is somewhere in the middle, but for something like this it sounds pretty difficult.

There's also the fact that in blanket terms military relationships are a shitshow for a whole bunch of different reasons...frequent separation, frequent moves, financial incentives to get married (also to start popping out kids), young individuals with no life experience out on their own for the first time, etc. So infidelity and divorces are quite a bit more common than the population at large, especially in the lower ranks since the individuals in question are broadly speaking very young (18-22 years old). The infidelity and divorce goes both ways (military personnel as well as spouses)...so this aspect of the stereotype of dependapotamus's is about as accurate as the stereotype that all junior enlisted are borderline retarded white trash alcoholics. Isn't true across the board, but it sure as hell has a basis in reality.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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TPSDude posted:

You guys ever run into swingers on your post?

Shim

do you see this

do you see???

Bogarts posted:

Weirdly when I was intel alot of enlisted wives were super hot. But that might be because half the enlisted people already had degrees.

a) they weren't that hot

b) most of them were probably mail-order brides and/or juicy returns from Korea because those two options are the only ways your typical intel and/or comm nerd is going to get something like that

(which when you think about it is doubly hilarious given the typical clearances involved in those career fields)

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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Dead Reckoning posted:

Christ, I wish I had saved that post I wrote on how depressing being a honeypot must be.

lol I remember exactly what you are talking about and it would be quite pertinent to this conversation

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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"met"

lol

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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MurderBot posted:

I never saw this happen because I was in the guard, but I know that about 90% of all the married dudes who were nobles in my unit had wives/GF's that were, at minimum a 6.5/10. The ugliest was still easily boner-able and mainly just had an ugly grill but a nice set of hooters and a rockin bod.

What happens when the disgusting peasants gain a high enough KDR on Call of Duty IRL and prestige to Officer status? Does the wife get kidnapped during OCS by a bunch of gay dudes that put them on a strict diet, complete make-over and clothing revamp? Or do they just pick up a new wife when they check out of OCS? I wasn't in long enough to actually watch something like this happen, and all of the officers I knew were either straight outta college with no prior service or single with smoking hot girlfriends.

from what I've seen a significant majority of prior-e Officers who got married prior to going to OCS/OTS already had hot wives, because the type of enlisted person who is going to say gently caress this and get a commission instead of eating poo poo and sucking dick to become a SNCO (or just retiring as an E-6) is the type of enlisted person who is more likely to be pulling in attractive tail even when they're a peasant. Flip side of this is why the vast majority of senior enlisted have ugly wives and/or multiple divorces.

that said I've also seen a couple prior-e's that were taking the "hide them until retirement approach" outlined above

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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Handsome Ralph posted:

Counter point:



Yeah they met when he was a cadet at WP, but close enough.

Cross-discussion from the Petraeus bashing in the CE thread, just one more piece of evidence that he's a political preening piece of poo poo: he married that solely because she was the daughter of the (at the time) three-star WP Superintendent, they started dating while he was at the school and while her daddy was Superintendent.

Also holy poo poo at those pictures

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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Cashier for AAFES only really works as a stereotype if she's asian

I'm going with MLM for most stereotypical, although professional photographer is a close second

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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MurderBot posted:

Oh yeah, the memories of living on post are coming back to me.


And the morning commissary baggers were all korean

Source: bagged groceries at ft. leavenworth

Asian American Female Employment Service

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iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

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Stultus Maximus posted:

So I guess AAFES = Korean and NEX = Filipina?

nah AAFES is mostly Filipina too...most of the juicies in Korea are Filipina "entertainers"

There's some Koreans and Japanese from the "actually met a normal lady off base and married her" crowd, but the vast majority are Filipina because they met in a juice bar, the servicemember "bought out her contract" engaged in human trafficking and now he's supporting her entire family

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