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Rygar201
Jan 25, 2011

USPOL May

In my one game last night, our Riven went 0-5 in lane against Hard AD, no Boots J4. It was like BlueTeamRiven.av.

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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

I had a Zac jungler rage at me because I solo killed a Dr Mundo while he was heading up to gank.

Pussy Quipped
Jan 29, 2009



Riot doesn't want their players to realize how bad they actually are so there is no in-client way to see how many wins/losses of any game mode you have without playing a game of that mode.

pog boyfriend
Jul 2, 2011



win loss ratio for normals does not matter as much because it is normals the game mode where you want to see how good ahri is at adc Pro Tip pretty fuckin bad

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010



Super Ethical.

pog boyfriend posted:

win loss ratio for normals does not matter as much because it is normals the game mode where you want to see how good ahri is at adc Pro Tip pretty fuckin bad

How about Annie adc, she has long auto range and self peel so?

Taciturn Tactician
Jan 26, 2011

The secret to good health is a balanced diet and unstable healing radiation


Lipstick Apathy

Addamere posted:

How about Annie adc, she has long auto range and self peel so?

One of the worst AS scores in the game and no steroids or AD scaling. Basically just bad Cait with gimmicky burst.

Kiranamos
Sep 27, 2007

STATUS: SCOTT IS AN IDIOT


Addamere posted:

How about Annie adc, she has long auto range and self peel so?

Dang, she's like a better version of Xayah if you think about it.

Herbotron
Feb 24, 2013


Annie auto range got nerfed a while back, she's not even a decent support pick these days.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!

Is Annie top still a thing or is it real bad

It always made sense to me for the same reason that old Ryze top was good but I dunno

Maybe cooldowns too long?

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'm Keven and I wouldn't do that. It'll KILL jobs.


...and I sure wouldn't do that.


Annie top is worse than it was because you typically build a bunch of hp and cdr and used your e for defense and they nerfed e a bunch and it's basically just a worse swain and you actually oom pretty easily once you need to shove with w, but if you want to play it it's not terrible or nothing.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

RIP ZEEZ


pog boyfriend posted:

win loss ratio for normals does not matter as much because it is normals the game mode where you want to see how good ahri is at adc Pro Tip pretty fuckin bad

Season 3(2?) worlds (?) some Brazilian team almost rolled clg in like 15 minutes with ahri adc, they only lost in the end because they dove nexus and threw.

iSurrender
Aug 25, 2005
Now with 22% more apathy!

rabidsquid posted:

i play low silver normals and those games are nothing like this

My normals mmr has gone from mid gold down to low bronze and back up again.
The only real difference is bronzies cant farm for poo poo, die a lot more and rage a little more.

iSurrender
Aug 25, 2005
Now with 22% more apathy!

Stefan Prodan posted:

Is Annie top still a thing or is it real bad

It always made sense to me for the same reason that old Ryze top was good but I dunno

Maybe cooldowns too long?

Annie top is bad if the enemy jungler camps you. Squishy + No escape in a long solo lane = free win for a smart jungler.
She does fine in most 1v1s.

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'm Keven and I wouldn't do that. It'll KILL jobs.


...and I sure wouldn't do that.


The main dif between silver and gold is the guy who windmill slams teemo top is marginally more likely to build appropriately instead of zerkers into nashors tooth into hurricane.

iSurrender
Aug 25, 2005
Now with 22% more apathy!

Herbotron posted:

Annie auto range got nerfed a while back, she's not even a decent support pick these days.

Annie is still one of 6 champs that has higher than 550 range at level 1.

pog boyfriend
Jul 2, 2011



silver is like some guy named darren plays with his friend pardeep the chill indian guy and darren and pardeep get drunk one time and rationalize darrens infinity edge darius top is easily plat level but he keeps losing games because noobs dont ban kat so pardeep goes ap carry kayle support so he can ult darius

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


pog boyfriend posted:

win loss ratio for normals does not matter as much because it is normals the game mode where you want to see how good ahri is at adc Pro Tip pretty fuckin bad

i accidentally locked in adc runes and masteries ahri mid before, bc i rarely play sober i get to pick 2 out of 3 in summoners, runes, and masteries and get those right but this was the rare game i went 0 for 3 and just played gunblade ahri and it was good because ahri is so good you pretty much cant gently caress up with her at all

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010



Super Ethical.

rabidsquid posted:

ahri and it was good because ahri is so good you pretty much cant gently caress with her at all

the doleful cry of many whose waifu spurns them

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Dukes up, kid. Didn't bring you back to keep dying at the hands of some scrub


Lipstick Apathy

I kinda wanna run the numbers on adc runes on midlaners. Like if you plan on going all in at like the level 1-3 area you're going to win everytime, the real question is whether or not it's worth it past that mark.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010



Super Ethical.

Luna Was Here posted:

I kinda wanna run the numbers on adc runes on midlaners. Like if you plan on going all in at like the level 1-3 area you're going to win everytime, the real question is whether or not it's worth it past that mark.

would it not presumably depend heavily on base ad? back in the day heimerdinger had the highest starting ad of any ranged champion, and i imagine he would get less bang for the buck (percentage) advantage from some flat ad than someone with less

pog boyfriend
Jul 2, 2011



Addamere posted:

would it not presumably depend heavily on base ad? back in the day heimerdinger had the highest starting ad of any ranged champion, and i imagine he would get less bang for the buck (percentage) advantage from some flat ad than someone with less

no because having huge loving autos when everyone has like 600 hp makes you terrifying in lane and you have incredibly zoning potential you canleverage into all ins or a cs lead

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'm Keven and I wouldn't do that. It'll KILL jobs.


...and I sure wouldn't do that.


Yeah adc runes are good on anyone because it's just good auto trading + last hitting. It's not like adcs are running lifesteal still.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


yea at my garbo elo i got probably three kills before the other guy figured out something was up but i imagine at just about any elo having 30 more ad and a bunch more attack speed will at least get you one all in kill at level 1 or level 2. my adc rune page also has mana regen blues on it so it wasnt all bad. you just need to not be a coward who runs mr blues and runs attack speed and mana regen instead

i actually dont think lunas idea is that bad, its sort of the foundation on which mid lucian works to get his lead

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006




The major issue with ADC runes as I understand it is that most midlane champions need to hit AP breakpoints to be able to reliably do things like kill backline creeps in a single combo, and not having that makes it much harder to shove and roam. It might not be bad if you're willing to commit to a level 3 all in, but it seems high risk.

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

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Maybe giving Zac 3 brain dead easy hard CC moves wasn't a good idea???

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Vermain posted:

The major issue with ADC runes as I understand it is that most midlane champions need to hit AP breakpoints to be able to reliably do things like kill backline creeps in a single combo, and not having that makes it much harder to shove and roam. It might not be bad if you're willing to commit to a level 3 all in, but it seems high risk.

thats what dorans rings are for

Servaetes
Sep 10, 2003

True enemy or false friend?


Work Friend Keven posted:

Yeah adc runes are good on anyone because it's just good auto trading + last hitting. It's not like adcs are running lifesteal still.

I wanna say some Draven players swear by a lifesteal quint or so but you can probably get away just using standard poo poo for him too.

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kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Tits and cooters, Mr Bond.


I played like 100 games of Rakan before watching Aphro play him and went "ohhh. Well that's how to play him." Here's one result http://plays.tv/video/59519dd5456d3...thank-you-aphro

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