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Beachcomber posted:I have so many, many reasons not to go on a cruise, but the biggest is that the only place you get to really explore in any depth is the cruise ship. You can't poke around and find the hidden gems, like the place with perfect margaritas or out-of-this-world fish tacos. I was looking at Alaskan cruises and those will dock at a port and then take multi-day excursions by train deeper into the interior. So you can find stuff that goes beyond 9 hour port calls. And obviously you can fly to Alaska yourself and buy tickets on all kinds of trains and boats without a cruise. I was looking primarily because my inlaws were thinking of going and I'd rather have someone else they can yell at when poo poo doesn't go exactly according to plan. It's all around better to just visit the place and engage as much with the locals as possible. But that generally involves AirBnB and people don't like them either.
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Beachcomber posted:I have so many, many reasons not to go on a cruise, but the biggest is that the only place you get to really explore in any depth is the cruise ship. You can't poke around and find the hidden gems, like the place with perfect margaritas or out-of-this-world fish tacos. Not necessarily. I hate horchata normally but I found the best horchata ever in a tiny ice cream shop in Merida and it made me question the few others that I had. Also, I found some street tacos on a hidden side street in Cozumel that were amazing. Same with some other foods too. You can definitely find some hidden gems, you may have to explore around the port a bit.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Sounds like everybody probably hosed everybody else Soylent Pudding posted:I know quite a few millennials who've enjoyed going on cruises in their 20s and this usually is a big factor. Trabant posted:The SS Herpes is obviously not on trial here. Yeah I think this might have been it, they were both terminally horny
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Krispy Wafer posted:It's all around better to just visit the place and engage as much with the locals as possible. But that generally involves AirBnB and people don't like them either. The real problem is convincing people to just pick whatever cheap hotel/motel/hostel is available and going to do things that might take them even slightly out of their comfort zone and aren't necessarily the cliche big tourist activities. This is why resorts and big cruises exist in the first place - catering to the 'wants to say they went somewhere Exotic but is terrified of going anywhere 'weird'/'unsafe' or doing anything remotely unusual' crowd.
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Aug 5, 2020 22:33
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Is there a better term that gets across a similar meaning as ‘vacation hipster’ or ‘travel snob’? There are many takes ITT about how cruises are low class and tacky.
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silence_kit posted:Is there a better term that gets across a similar meaning as ‘vacation hipster’ or ‘travel snob’? There are many takes ITT about how cruises are low class and tacky. Similarly, there is a thread in GBS about 30-something men living in empty apartments with only mattress on the floor and maybe a folding chair and small table, and there are people seriously defending it as "functionalism", "minimalism" or "anti-consumerism", "not being a conformist sheep" and saying that having anything resembling decoration or any additional furniture is tacky, baby boomer poo poo.
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Haifisch posted:It's been a long time since anyone could even pretend Airbnb involves engaging with locals in any meaningful capacity. There's a reason people don't stick up for it beyond 'well it's cheaper for the consumer sometimes'. Airbnb also makes the affordable housing shortage even worse by encouraging landlords to turn them into illegal hotels.
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silence_kit posted:Is there a better term that gets across a similar meaning as ‘vacation hipster’ or ‘travel snob’? There are many takes ITT about how cruises are low class and tacky. they literally just cannot stop themselves from talking about how they totally love small out of the way shops and street tacos, it's like when dogs start howling making fun of cruise ships is just the vaguely topical excuse to get their feet in the posting door
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Der Kyhe posted:Similarly, there is a thread in GBS about 30-something men living in empty apartments with only mattress on the floor and maybe a folding chair and small table, and there are people seriously defending it as "functionalism", "minimalism" or "anti-consumerism", "not being a conformist sheep" and saying that having anything resembling decoration or any additional furniture is tacky, baby boomer poo poo. I never felt the need to decorate my walls with anything since I was like 16. I just don't see the point. Is it that unusual?
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A cruise is exactly what you make of it. I had to go to a wedding in March in Miami and it was cheaper to fly out a few days early, get on a cruise to the Bahamas, and go to the wedding than to just fly out for the weekend. The Bahamas was pretty and we saw some cool water for a couple days at the beaches and walked around Nassau. Nothing in depth by any means but if you're paying ~$75 a night thats on par with a Super 8 so why the gently caress not? Also lol the second we got off the ship MSC shut down all operations. George H.W. Cunt has a new favorite as of 15:12 on Aug 6, 2020 |
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I only decorate my place with cruise ship posters.
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I do wonder if there is a link between the generation who moved out and bought a house at 20 and decorating/DIY skills, I think if you don’t have that early experience of doing stuff then you just can’t be bothered in your late thirties because it’s such a pain to learn how to repair a broken water pipe or how to juryrig an electrical socket
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I need to hear more about this electrical socket juryrigging. How many future electrical fires have you left behind?
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Jel Shaker posted:I do wonder if there is a link between the generation who moved out and bought a house at 20 and decorating/DIY skills, I think if you don’t have that early experience of doing stuff then you just can’t be bothered in your late thirties because it’s such a pain to learn how to repair a broken water pipe or how to juryrig an electrical socket Hell, my dad handled the DIY much to my 10 year old self's chagrin. My mom's idea of decorating was to just plaster the walls with framed photos of the immediate family. You could totally just look at any given wall and see about 200 pictures of us at various ages in various places. I have a few things that I put up in my apartment (when I lived in Kansas I hung my old snowboard up for a while), but these days I let my roommate do it, stickers everywhere.
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AceOfFlames posted:I never felt the need to decorate my walls with anything since I was like 16. I just don't see the point. Is it that unusual? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z8WTcvaziM
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AceOfFlames posted:I never felt the need to decorate my walls with anything since I was like 16. I just don't see the point. Is it that unusual? Yes, seek professional help, decorating your walls is perfectly normal. Even if you don't do it for the aesthetic aspect, without any sort of sound absorption on your walls, your house/room/hovel will be made out of echo.
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Jel Shaker posted:I do wonder if there is a link between the generation who moved out and bought a house at 20 and decorating/DIY skills, I think if you don’t have that early experience of doing stuff then you just can’t be bothered in your late thirties because it’s such a pain to learn how to repair a broken water pipe or how to juryrig an electrical socket That and so many people are renting, and hanging things up on the walls might get you evicted.
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AceOfFlames posted:I never felt the need to decorate my walls with anything since I was like 16. I just don't see the point. Is it that unusual? Not really. It's your house/space, choose whatever layout you like as long as it's not a disease vector.
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Jel Shaker posted:I do wonder if there is a link between the generation who moved out and bought a house at 20 and decorating/DIY skills, I think if you don’t have that early experience of doing stuff then you just can’t be bothered in your late thirties because it’s such a pain to learn how to repair a broken water pipe or how to juryrig an electrical socket Being less likely to own property and be responsible/have the authority to do big changes is the much more likely culprit for the home skills lack boomer media outlets like to bemoan. To begin with millennials are happy to dive into other skilled domestic work, like gardening, cooking, making textiles, and electronics and computer repair. Repairing a leaky pipe or swapping a light fixture isn't hard, and unlike previous generations you've got expert advice on how just a few clicks away. "My dad didn't teach me how to wire an outlet" isn't that big a deal when the internet will do it for you, and in the correct way that won't burn down the house.
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hawowanlawow posted:they literally just cannot stop themselves from talking about how they totally love small out of the way shops and street tacos, it's like when dogs start howling I get the point that cruises are more artificial than other kinds of travel or tourism, but tourism is almost kind of necessarily an artificial experience. The goal of tourism isn’t to simulate life as a citizen of that area or whatever. Otherwise, when visiting NYC you’d be spending most of your time simulating a commute from your place in Long Island or Jersey into your ‘job’ in NYC. Or when visiting Southeast Asia, you’d be spending most of your time working in a sweatshop and simulating a life of abject poverty. (Apologies in advance if this is no longer the case for an average person in SE Asia) silence_kit has a new favorite as of 17:04 on Aug 6, 2020 |
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I’ll have you know my room has a bed, a closet and two end tables, thank you very much  I don’t have a desk because my room is not big enough. I am going to put one in my living room. Ghost Leviathan posted:That and so many people are renting, and hanging things up on the walls might get you evicted. That too. I was scared shitless of the fact that I had to drill the wall of my rental to hang up curtains and even there I drilled in the wrong place and I have a bunch of holes where there weren’t supposed to that I have to fix at one point. AceOfFlames has a new favorite as of 17:42 on Aug 6, 2020 |
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All of you Millennials who don't have a poo poo-ton of knick knacks are in for a surprise when your parents start to downsize/knock off. All kinds of crap with a thick layer of guilt so you can never get rid of them. I have two of those funeral flags in the wooden cases. I have no idea who the 2nd flag is for. My sister somehow has one too. Does everyone get a flag? Is it like a participation trophy? My decoration style is now mid-century dead veterans.
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Krispy Wafer posted:All of you Millennials who don't have a poo poo-ton of knick knacks are in for a surprise when your parents start to downsize/knock off.  my parents? Downsize? My dad has become a hoarder in the last few years. A few years ago there was a garage full of stuff that was supposed to get donated, that my mom attempted to pawn off on me, I found a few things that were useful to me, but then my dad started getting involved and was throwing a poo poo-fit. Things that were coated in inches of dust were "still good" and causing him to get angry.Last year, the garage was still full, but while my dad was out, my mom got me to take a carpet cleaner (they replaced all their carpet with laminate), a fondue set, and an electric knife sharpener, all covered in years of dust. Supposedly the garage is slowly getting cleaned out. I wouldn't be surprised that next time I visit, whenever COVID is over, they still can't get a car in the garage and the busted rear end chair that's in three pieces is still there.
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Well, uh, we all downsize on our possessions at some point.
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You can buy fine china for pennies at thrift stores now since so many boomers die having never used it and their kids have no interest in it. Someone needs to make a comic about a boomer buying a set of fine china, putting it in the glass cabinet to gather dust for decades while they scream at anyone who suggests using it, then they die and it gets sold in a thrift store and used by a millennial to eat mac and cheese
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Ghost Leviathan posted:You can buy fine china for pennies at thrift stores now since so many boomers die having never used it and their kids have no interest in it. That's me. I got a huge 8-setting of very good China for $30 and use it to eat many a noodle
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I gave away At some point in the 1970's, Boomers thought pewter - the most uncomfortable of dining ware, was somehow desirable.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I gave away Here, let me pour you some hot tea OH JESUS. Well, that was the last one. We left the rest in the pantry during a heat wave, and now all we have are lumps.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:You can buy fine china for pennies at thrift stores now since so many boomers die having never used it and their kids have no interest in it. This reminds me of how my cousin deliberately didn't put china in her wedding registry, and then our great uncle showed up with 12 piece set he got cheap at an estate sale.
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Krispy Wafer posted:All of you Millennials who don't have a poo poo-ton of knick knacks are in for a surprise when your parents start to downsize/knock off. Man, ain't that the truth. My mom had to move into an assisted living home a while back and got rid of most of the junk she had accumulated. My brother and I both got heaps of garbage that neither one of us had any use for, so I ended up donating most of the stuff I got. Like it was literally fortune telling crystals, broken music boxes, and cheap jewelry, none of which had any sentimental value either. But of course, now my mom gives me guilt trips when she asks if I have ITEM and I say that I didn't have the space for it so I got rid of it. So then I get to be the bad guy for not keeping the stuff around to collect dust. Luckily she's only upset for a few days and then gets over it. But if I kept everything I would have a literal bedroom full of useless junk. I just don't get that mentality.
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Like if my parents had to move into assisted living tomorrow (which, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in the next 5 years), I'd take just about anything they have involving cooking. For people who don't cook they have some nice stuff. I've lived for 39 years and I have never seen them use a food processor as anything more than an electric cheese grater (and they don't even do that anymore now that you can buy it preshredded)
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Van life is the dream. Cant take your garbage poo poo no room!
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Boomers don't want to hear that the priceless items they've spent a lifetime collecting are worthless and actually cost money to get rid of. Best case scenario you have uncles and aunts because they will take all of that stuff like they're a Boomer Highlander whose only goal is to be the last one with all the junk. Soysaucebeast posted:Man, ain't that the truth. My mom had to move into an assisted living home a while back and got rid of most of the junk she had accumulated. My brother and I both got heaps of garbage that neither one of us had any use for, so I ended up donating most of the stuff I got. Like it was literally fortune telling crystals, broken music boxes, and cheap jewelry, none of which had any sentimental value either. But of course, now my mom gives me guilt trips when she asks if I have ITEM and I say that I didn't have the space for it so I got rid of it. So then I get to be the bad guy for not keeping the stuff around to collect dust. Luckily she's only upset for a few days and then gets over it. But if I kept everything I would have a literal bedroom full of useless junk. I just don't get that mentality. My grandmother lost everything when she went into assisted living. Her home was upside down because my dad cashed out her equity to buy...**checks notes**...a lawnmower. We had no choice but to let it lapse to the bank. Occasionally she'd ask about her house, but she was a child of the Depression so material possessions didn't matter as much as they did to that next generation.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:You can buy fine china for pennies at thrift stores now since so many boomers die having never used it and their kids have no interest in it. An uncle is giving my wife and I a big full set of Waterford crystal and I only have to just go pick it up from Dallas since he's afraid to ship it. It has been almost a year now and I have not yet been to do that. Like, what am I supposed to do with all that? Our house doesn't have a formal dining room, and our bar consists of a small beer fridge and a bar cart.
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I think I posted this in a GBS thread, but my family has a pretty reasonable solution: public auction for everything. You want it, buy it. There are a very few things that any of us get outside that, and it's generally something small and personal - for example, I got my grandpa's coffee mug and the small thermometer/barometer that I used to goggle over as a kid. Everything else goes to public auction, nobody gets butthurt about who got what, etc. My wife and I cleaned out all the bullshit we got from our wedding - crystal, dishware, all of it, donated it, and bought stuff we like better. If we still have it when we croak my son can take a bat to it if he wants, who cares. In retrospect all that formal poo poo is so stupid.
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The three things I'd have loved to have had from my grandpa disappeared* after my mom and dad divorced. Everything else is ehhh. When Mom downsized she tried to convince my sisters and I to take an armoire she had that was massive enough to effect the tides and none of us wanted it (it wouldn't even physically fit in my place) but other than that she was really good with understanding that no one wanted most of the stuff so she gave away/donated/sold it. *Dad sold them.
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After my grandmother passed away, they had some tables set up with various jewellery and knick-knacks for any of the family to take as keepsakes, at first giving everyone a turn with the early stuff but later just letting anyone grab whatever they wanted that was left. It's nice having some familiar keepsakes around. I'm not sure how they handled the big stuff, though.
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Some of you in the US will have never heard of this place, heck I hadn't until a year ago, but after Marathon purched Andeavor their convenience/gas store took on additional 1,500 locations, bringing them up to 3,000 locations all across the US. Rather than do what Andeavor and the previous owners of these convenience stores did, which was leave the previous branding that the convenience stores held in place (Aneavor was itself a purchase of several petroleum holdings from competing brands in the southern part of the US, so they ended up owning various Shell, Exxon, Texaco, and other stations), they spent hundreds of millions aggressively rebranding these properties to Speedway stations across the US, and replacing all the pumps at the stations with modern pumps that alleged to be skimming proof. At least in my neighborhood this lead to in 2019 there being a Speedway gas station roughly every block, often across the street from each other. They boasted in local news stories that this was only the beginning. Unfortunately for them, this costly conversion process, and slow sales in many of the stores caused the Speedway portion of Marathon's portfolio to begin to circle the drain. They had since the growth spurt began talked of spinning off their retail arm, but the high cost of these stores caused investors and Marathon executives to demand a split. My personal guess is that while there probably isn't actually a ton of gas station loyalty in consumers, the general insecurity of gas stations has caused people to shun smaller brands, and Speedway, being an unfamiliar brand in most places, caused consumers to shun them. That's just my guess. COVID-19 delayed the spin-off from its targeted date, and in fact made it almost a necessity that these stores be purchased by another large company rather than going independent. 7-11 initially agreed to purchase for $22 billion, but their investors didn't like that. So nearly every other convenience store conglomerate took a sniff, but none completed a purchase. Finally, a few days ago, 7-11's parent company directly purchased 7-11 for $21 billion (investors still aren't happy, especially after a year in which 7-11 faced a 73% decrease in profits). While the deal won't be complete until 2021, it seems like 7-11 plans to rebrand the stores once they take control, thus a brand that had existed nearly 60 years in the midwest, has been sent down the drain by existing 5 years in the South and Southwest. F.
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Rick posted:My personal guess is that while there probably isn't actually a ton of gas station loyalty in consumers This may true except for Buc-ee's (and Wawa too but I've never been to one of those). We were going to have one until the flood of 2016 in Louisiana, and man it is missed. Always one of our stops when we head to Houston, as silly as that might sound to those who've never been to one. Giant stores, good food, decently priced gas and extremely clean restrooms.
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I’ll go miles out of my way to pump gas at a QuickTrip. Conversely I’ll go miles out of my way to avoid a BP.
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