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Cool Post Beg
Mar 6, 2008

DADDY MAGIC

FAROOQ posted:

It turns out that Hulk Hogan was raped?

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Mukaikubo
Mar 14, 2006

"You treat her like a lady... and she'll always bring you home."
if the gawker family of websites goes away, between that and the loss of grantland what the gently caress am I going to do with my computer while code is compiling at work :(

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Mukaikubo posted:

if the gawker family of websites goes away, between that and the loss of grantland what the gently caress am I going to do with my computer while code is compiling at work :(

learn italian?

FAROOQ
Aug 20, 2014

by Smythe

Mukaikubo posted:

if the gawker family of websites goes away, between that and the loss of grantland what the gently caress am I going to do with my computer while code is compiling at work :(

Stop being a terrible person?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Gawker got a lot less creepy and disgusting after Daulerio left.

Outside of the Conde Nast thing. That was just foul.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


The statement from the Writer's Union out of that was pretty funny in a vacuum.

"MANAGEMENT SAID WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BLACKMAIL ANYONE WE LIKE AND THIS IS LIKE STALIN :saddowns:"

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

projecthalaxy posted:

The statement from the Writer's Union out of that was pretty funny in a vacuum.

"MANAGEMENT SAID WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BLACKMAIL ANYONE WE LIKE AND THIS IS LIKE STALIN :saddowns:"

Craggs' resignation letter was absolutely delicious.

Edit: Seriously, this is amazing.

quote:

No one told me the vote was actually happening, by the way. It just … happened, while I was on a plane to California. No one in editorial was informed that Nick had reached what he now calls the point of last resort; no one had explained what other resorts had been tried and had failed in the less than 24 hours between publication and takedown. The final count was 4-2 (with Heather’s nay joining mine, despite initial reports otherwise), and the message was immediately broadcast to the company and to its readers that the responsibility Nick had vested in the executive editor is in fact meaningless, that true power over editorial resides in the whims of the four cringing members of the managing partnership’s Fear and Money Caucus.

"My boss expects me to have standards, that son of a BITCH. :cry:"

Timby fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Mar 13, 2016

a retard
Jan 7, 2013

by Lowtax

Geoff Peterson posted:

Where would you draw the line on this? The main thrust (heh) of Gakwer's defense is that Hogan's sex life is relevant because Hogan has consistently and repeatedly made his sex life a topic of public discussion and has profited from it. Should everyone who discussed the video and its content before Gawker posted it also get sued? I think Hogan has a hell of a case against Bubba (as well as whoever leaked the video, if you buy that it wasn't Bubba), but this suit has only the tiniest bit more merit than Chuck Johnson's suit against them.

"Let me talk all about my sex life in a variety of different venues including some of the seediest shows in mainstream American culture... heyheyheyheywaitmysexlifeisprivate" is a stupid lovely argument that should be called out as such. I haven't seen it because I'm repulsed for the same reason I'm repulsed by revengeporn, the Andrews peephole video and the fappening, but I appreciate having a legal standard where-hypothetically- Chris Broussard can't use a lawsuit to force a media company into silence if there's a sextape of him cheating on his wife.

Hogan winning this and surviving appeal will inevitably result in more Lawsuit as Image Management cases, and that's a much worse outcome than Gawker's continued existence. If we want to redefine Public Interest and Public Figure in a way that makes this a winnable case for Hogan, I'm actually for it... provided we get a national Anti-SLAPP law that makes bogus filings financially ruinous for celebs and corporations.

Let me give an example. Amy Schumer is a comedian famous for her stand-up routines about her sex life. Say somebody records her having sex with her boyfriend without her consent and it gets leaked on the internet. Would you consider the sex tape perfectly ok, since she talks about having sex all the time?

Given Gawker's history with this sort of thing and the fact that their reporting on the celebrity nude icloud hack was a bit at odds with how they're portraying hogan's sex tape, I have a hard time buying the idea that the tape is actually in the public interest.

Eleanor Pwnsevelt
Dec 25, 2003

Geoff Peterson posted:

I think Hogan has a hell of a case against Bubba (as well as whoever leaked the video, if you buy that it wasn't Bubba), but this suit has only the tiniest bit more merit than Chuck Johnson's suit against them.

If I'm not mistaken that case was quickly settled years ago for a small meager sum and a handshake. Nothing fishy at all about it though so don't ask any questions about it.

Critical
Aug 23, 2007

Mukaikubo posted:

if the gawker family of websites goes away, between that and the loss of grantland what the gently caress am I going to do with my computer while code is compiling at work :(

The Ringer is going to be Grantland: Part Deux when it launches.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

FAROOQ posted:

Stop being a terrible person?

who even are you

Geoff Peterson
Jan 1, 2012

by exmarx

a retard posted:

Let me give an example. Amy Schumer is a comedian famous for her stand-up routines about her sex life. Say somebody records her having sex with her boyfriend without her consent and it gets leaked on the internet. Would you consider the sex tape perfectly ok, since she talks about having sex all the time?

Can you reread the part of what you quoted that says I think the Hogan tape is perfectly OK? It may take you a while to find it...

Since you've brought her up though, Amy's a pretty useful part of the conversation as a midpoint between Erin Andrews and Hulk Hogan. If Amy was also taped nude through a peephole in a hotel after the front desk gave that person the room next to her's, Amy would likely prevail in court against the hotel (Hogan would also have a case in that scenario-as it turns out, he settled that for $5k in his situation).The sum would be substantially less than what Erin Andrews received, since her sexuality is an integral part of her public persona. This may be squicky and slutshamey, but that's the world in which we live.

If Gawker had any role in the production of the video, they absolutely should be raked over the coals in court by it. To clarify though: You understand the distinction between creating a sextape without consent and reporting on the existence of or playing snippets of one, yes? Also, the difference between morally hosed and punishable by the courts?

a retard posted:

Given Gawker's history with this sort of thing and the fact that their reporting on the celebrity nude icloud hack was a bit at odds with how they're portraying hogan's sex tape, I have a hard time buying the idea that the tape is actually in the public interest.

I'd love to hear your standard for "public interest" and how Gawker properties lashing out at the perverts participating in the fappening plays into that in any way.


Eleanor Pwnsevelt posted:

If I'm not mistaken that case was quickly settled years ago for a small meager sum and a handshake. Nothing fishy at all about it though so don't ask any questions about it.
You are correct. Though it's possible that after legal fees on both sides, that's about all he'd have gotten out of Bubba anyway.

Miching Mallecho
May 24, 2010

:yeshaha:
We got Daulerio on the stand right now. It's not going to get vicious until Hogan's lawyers get a turn obviously, but still interesting. :getin:

Edit: AJ was rooting for Roddy and Mr.Wonderful against Hogan and Mr.T

Double edit: Thumb wrestlers were discussed in a court of law

Miching Mallecho fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Mar 14, 2016

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/709408219429539842

pressedbunny
May 31, 2007

To A Brand New Galaxy
Length be damned, that's some impressive girth, then.

UpfrontSalmon
Nov 4, 2011

I prefer the term "Battle FROG."

this trial is an arms race where the weapons involved are ridiculousness and overall lack of decency

NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005

BIG OVER
College Slice
I think so far most of the witness/depositions have hurt and helped both sides save for Emma Carmichael, whom the prosecution really had a lazy/offensive set of cross-examination questions. And I don't know what recourse you can do when a juror asks a question that's literally asking her if she slept her way to her job because of her age, but that was really loving gross.

NotQuiteQuentin fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Mar 14, 2016

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Hulksters got a thick one brother

VileLL
Oct 3, 2015


is 24 inch python just too obvious a joke

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
24 inches....
Around

Jay 2K Winger
Oct 10, 2007

What are you looking for?
Hulk Choadgan.

Gar
May 13, 2005
I got the Playstation but I still play the Sega
No wonder the loving leg drop was so devastating.

NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005

BIG OVER
College Slice
things are about to get super interesting

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/appellate-court-orders-release-of-sealed-records-in-hulk-hogan-sex-tape/2269576

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

the list of topics gawker intended to ask bubba about but are unable to as he won't be testifying (iirc his lawyer notified the court that his client would plead the 5th on all questions so there was no point in putting him on the stand. probably hurts gawkers case not to be able to ask him these in front of the jury though, even if he wasnt going to answer) http://www.scribd.com/doc/305092269/MEMORIALIZATION-OF-PROFFER-REGARDING-TESTIMONY-OF-BUBBA-THE-LOVE-SPONGE-CLEM



basically they were going to pitch that this was a classic worked sex tape where its 'stolen' and 'leaked' and then the celeb sells it off to vivid for a nice payday

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/284555/hulk-hogan-trying-to-hide-fbi-documents/

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

the fbi must have concluded hogan knew it was being filmed and the whole loving thing was a work hahahahahah this motherfucker tried to work a sextape AND WORKED HIMSELF INTO THE SHOOT OF ALL SHOOTS

Electric Lady
Mar 21, 2010

To be victorious
you must find glory
in the little things
epitasis, you were right. If he didn't know, that's another thing. But if he knew, then this blowing up in Hogan's face is a glory among glories.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

i hope i am right it would be too rich. gawker knows whats in the fbi documents so i mean. it stands to reason thats how they came to the conclusion it was a work. tbh that filing about what they intended to ask bubba - if they had just said "hogan knew and intended to do a fake sextape for publicity" it would be one thing. the very specific use of "WORK" A SEXTAPE suggests to me it was based on specific language or information

Luchadork
Feb 18, 2010

Take a look at the masked man
Beating up the wrong guy
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
Chris Benoit killed his family
I'm probably misunderstanding something here but if Hogan knew he was being filmed and this was all a work to release a sex tape for some attention, why would he go on a racist tirade during it? Like, I can't see him going off on that tangent if he knew it was going to be on tape.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

a good question. the racist tirade wasnt on the full video that gawker received iirc?

maybe the extortion thing was bubba was extorting hogan over the racist part of it, which wasnt planned in the video they intended to leak for pub? totally speculating

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
I thought he knew he was being filmed but did not know it was going to be released?

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

both he and heather clem have testified they did not know they were being filmed. clem was directly contradicting previous statements shes made

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

Hogan's story is that he was not aware he was being filmed even though he talked about his sex tape proudly for months before there was any story about extortion against the advice of his publicist (this was hulk hogan talking not terry bolea)

Heather Clem's story to the police was that she knew but on the stand yesterday she told the court she didn't know. So she lied to someone

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor

Require More Fire posted:

I'm probably misunderstanding something here but if Hogan knew he was being filmed and this was all a work to release a sex tape for some attention, why would he go on a racist tirade during it? Like, I can't see him going off on that tangent if he knew it was going to be on tape.

The racist tirade is from a different thing, supposedly, and took place before the sex tape was ever a thing, but there's also been a huge amount of speculation as to where exactly the source for it came from. This trial is concerning the sex tape.

The only reason the two of these are getting tangled up with one another is that Hogan's lawsuit against Gawker rolled out and then only a couple of days later the racist remarks came out, with timing that seemed like someone decided it was time for some revenge. Prior to the trial, there had been speculation that Gawker may have had more than JUST the sex tape that they were sitting on.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

the racist tirade comes from a transcript of a rumored second sex tape the FBI found in their investigation

Luchadork
Feb 18, 2010

Take a look at the masked man
Beating up the wrong guy
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
Chris Benoit killed his family
This gets more and more confusing. I miss the days when all Hulk Hogan yelled about were Prayers and Vitamins and not his dick and black people.

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor

oatgan posted:

the racist tirade comes from a transcript of a rumored second sex tape the FBI found in their investigation

This is all pretty weird, and I'm kind of wondering who leaked the stuff at this point.

Bubba was originally trying to become the Howard Stern of the South (and had a pretty good following) before he got litigated to pieces, his sponsors pulled out and he got dropped from Clear Channel syndication, but it seems extremely ill advised if he were the source of the leaks himself. (Especially since the thing that got him kicked off Clear Channel was 'indecency.')

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Require More Fire posted:

I'm probably misunderstanding something here but if Hogan knew he was being filmed and this was all a work to release a sex tape for some attention, why would he go on a racist tirade during it? Like, I can't see him going off on that tangent if he knew it was going to be on tape.

Didn't the exact same thing happen in the NBA with that Donald Sterling stuff a couple years ago? It wasn't a sex tape, but he was being recorded, knew he was being recorded, and still said horribly racist stuff, and it ultimately resulted in him losing ownership of the Clippers

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Hulk Hogan can gently caress my wife any time.

Chris James 2 posted:

Didn't the exact same thing happen in the NBA with that Donald Sterling stuff a couple years ago? It wasn't a sex tape, but he was being recorded, knew he was being recorded, and still said horribly racist stuff, and it ultimately resulted in him losing ownership of the Clippers

They're just all trying to be Nixon.

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oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

whats V. Stiviano up to these days

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