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Guess I could give my opinion to my own question. I think Ostrander's Spectre run will never be repeated again. He had such a strong take on both Spectre and Corrigan that the character's seemed more real than before. Through the Spectre, Ostrander managed to explore a lot of themes about what it means to be human, but he also made the conflict between Corrigan (wanting justice) and Spectre (wanting vengeance) to be an interesting inner turmoil. All takes of the Spectre since have paled in comparison to what Ostrander did with the character.
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Madkal posted:Here is a weird matter of opinion kind of question for you goons, but which writers do you think have (or had) the best voice/take on which character. What I mean is that there is usually a character who can be kind of boring or whatnot, but every now and again a writer gets a hold on that character and makes them shine. We know about stuff like Peter David's Hulk run where he got a great voice on the character and made him something special. So which other writer's do you think really excelled with certain characters. Jason Aaron's Ghost Rider is the only version of he character I have ever not hated.
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Mark Waid pretty much made Wally West. I mean, obviously the character existed for decades before him, and a decent amount of time after, but his Wally is THE Wally.
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Apr 28, 2016 23:49
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Alan Moore's Swamp Thing is pretty much the pinnacle of a writer bringing their voice to a character and elevating them beyond what they were.
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Apr 29, 2016 00:35
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Holy balls, stamping FCBD books is so loving tedious.
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Apr 29, 2016 00:46
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Fraction's Hawkeye, almost certainly.
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Apr 29, 2016 01:00
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Peter David with his version of X Factor. Also, whoever turned Cap into a leftist people's champion, and Chris Claremont with Wolverine.
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Apr 29, 2016 01:07
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Giffen/Demattais (I know I misspelled that)'s Guy Gardner Starlin's Thanos (though that's kind of cheating) Waid's F4
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Apr 29, 2016 01:22
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People constantly talk up Simonson's Thor, although I've never read it. Miller's Batman (Year One, specifically, although TDKR works as well) and Daredevil are basically the current takes on the character that blueprints exactly who they are in their various mediums.
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Apr 29, 2016 01:27
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JMS had the best voice for Aunt May ever. I know that seems minor, but still. I also really liked his Peter, but I mean, no one's touching Stan Lee on that one.
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Apr 29, 2016 02:14
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Toxxupation posted:Fraction's Hawkeye, almost certainly. The same can be said for Tom King's Vision, and for that matter Alan Moore's Swamp Thing. It's totally possible that ten years from now those will be THE Hawkeye and Vision in the same way Moore defined Swamp Thing, but for now it's kind of weird to declare them to be the definitive voices of the characters. It's like saying the definitive vision of Bucky Barnes is Ales Kot's EDM loving freshman year philosopher, or Nick Spencer's snarky millennial ballbuster.
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Apr 29, 2016 02:38
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Edge & Christian posted:Not to take anything away from that run, but Fraction's Hawkeye really might have been a totally different character than the one who appeared from 1964-2009 or whatever. Agreed. As fantastic as the run is, he's entirely divorced from his own history.
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Apr 29, 2016 02:59
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Also he's a total loser so that's probably not going to become a definitive take.
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Apr 29, 2016 03:06
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Isn't that basically what happened when Miller did Year One and Born Again, especially for the latter though? Not being facetious or rhetorical, sincerely asking. A lot of people I read up about comics say that Miller basically redefined both characters permanently by rewriting both Daredevil and Batman's own history.
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Apr 29, 2016 03:07
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Rhyno posted:Agreed. As fantastic as the run is, he's entirely divorced from his own history. Not entirely. 
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Aphrodite posted:Also he's a total loser so that's probably not going to become a definitive take.
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Apr 29, 2016 03:11
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He has some positive qualities elsewhere!
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Apr 29, 2016 03:12
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Tom King's Vision being functionally a different character is kind of the point with that one, at least.
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Apr 29, 2016 03:20
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Len Kaminski only wrote three Eddie Brock Venom stories: a 4-issue miniseries, a pre-Venom flashback issue and an issue of Iron Man. During those issues, I feel he had the best handle on him.
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Apr 29, 2016 03:26
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I'm turning my spare bedroom into a comic and sports room. Would do you guys do to proudly display your comics in your places. Edit: photos would be great to help me steal, I mean inspire me, with ideas.
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Apr 29, 2016 05:56
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Madkal posted:I'm turning my spare bedroom into a comic and sports room. Would do you guys do to proudly display your comics in your places. Everything in one great big pile.
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Apr 29, 2016 06:04
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Madkal posted:I'm turning my spare bedroom into a comic and sports room. Would do you guys do to proudly display your comics in your places. Sell/burn all floppies. Store TPBs in cube shelf from Amazon or Ikea.
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Apr 29, 2016 06:13
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DrProsek posted:Sell/burn all floppies. Store TPBs in cube shelf from Amazon or Ikea.
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Apr 29, 2016 06:47
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CapnAndy posted:That's a weird way to spell "keep all your files in one folder clearly marked Comics on your hard drive". Proudly Scanned by THE M@STER OF 0RI0N *catwoman pinup*
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Apr 29, 2016 06:52
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Lurdiak posted:Proudly Scanned by THE M@STER OF 0RI0N *catwoman pinup*
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Apr 29, 2016 06:57
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All digital, most people have no idea I read comics, especially since I'm so fuckin cool otherwise.
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Apr 29, 2016 15:14
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Digital and trades is the way to go. You get a nice bookshelf full of nerd bullshit. Storing floppies is the absolute pits.
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Apr 29, 2016 15:38
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Storing floppies is easy, just a bunch of unsorted long boxes in the the damp basement 
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Apr 29, 2016 16:24
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I don't have room for comics with all these expensive action figures.
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Madkal posted:Here is a weird matter of opinion kind of question for you goons, but which writers do you think have (or had) the best voice/take on which character. What I mean is that there is usually a character who can be kind of boring or whatnot, but every now and again a writer gets a hold on that character and makes them shine. We know about stuff like Peter David's Hulk run where he got a great voice on the character and made him something special. So which other writer's do you think really excelled with certain characters. Garth Ennis' Punisher.
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Madkal posted:Here is a weird matter of opinion kind of question for you goons, but which writers do you think have (or had) the best voice/take on which character. What I mean is that there is usually a character who can be kind of boring or whatnot, but every now and again a writer gets a hold on that character and makes them shine. We know about stuff like Peter David's Hulk run where he got a great voice on the character and made him something special. So which other writer's do you think really excelled with certain characters. Simonson - Thor Giffen/DeMatteis - Blue and Gold Lee - Galactus BQM - Steph!Batgirl Ostrander - Deadshot, Waller Messner-Loebs - Wonder Woman
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Apr 29, 2016 19:05
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Morrison's Animal Man
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I'm reading through Civil War on Marvel Unlimited right now. Are there any crossover issues to look out for or specifically avoid?
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Apr 29, 2016 19:45
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Have you read Brubaker's Captain America? It's been a while, but his death in the direct aftermath and "Civil War: The Confession" are probably worth reading as the real ending to the event.
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Trast posted:I'm reading through Civil War on Marvel Unlimited right now. Are there any crossover issues to look out for or specifically avoid? Frontline is a must read.
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Apr 29, 2016 20:06
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Teenage Fansub posted:Have you read Brubaker's Captain America? It's been a while, but his death in the direct aftermath and "Civil War: The Confession" are probably worth reading as the real ending to the event. I was going to jump into that run after Civil War due to how much it gets praised. I should probably read the pre-death stuff to get up to speed while I am going through Civil War. bobkatt013 posted:Frontline is a must read. Thanks.
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Trast posted:I was going to jump into that run after Civil War due to how much it gets praised. I should probably read the pre-death stuff to get up to speed while I am going through Civil War. You shouldn't thank me. Its the one that has a character ask Captain America about Nascar, youtube, and myspace. I enjoyed the Iron Man tie in, but some people did not like it.
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bobkatt013 posted:You shouldn't thank me. Its the one that has a character ask Captain America about Nascar, youtube, and myspace. I too find NASCAR strange and confusing so I empathize with Cap.
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bobkatt013 posted:You shouldn't thank me. Its the one that has a character ask Captain America about Nascar, youtube, and myspace. Didn't it also have Ben Urich (& Sally Floyd, but Urich is the big deal here) willing go along with a coverup that Tony had a nanite-controlled Norman Osborn shoot the Atlantean Ambassador to provoke a war, I think to encourage people to rally behind the intiative? Kind of OOC. Did they ever address that plot point, or was it never spoken of again?
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Annihilation was a loving mess of bad art and really poor treatment of female characters (basically every main male character ends up "slapping some sense" into some main female character over being hysterical or some poo poo, and basically every single female character was defined by being either a damsel or madly in love with the Big Strong Male Character (who, incidentally, was just slapping them around)), but god loving drat if Annihilation: Conquest wasn't the best poo poo. Like, man, Annihilation: Conquest was so loving good. Frustrating you have to trudge through like thirty issues of Gamora being even more embarrassingly...female superhero than the norm to get to the great poo poo. I mean, Annihilation was still fun as hell and Thanos was an awesome dick, but god if it doesn't feel enjoyable despite its own efforts to look like an ugly regressive piece of poo poo.
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